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Ouchie preaching.
The entire discussion was about how there are probably more failed tall WRs than short ones, and my point was that WRs of that height don't make it to the next levels because they're just not in demand.
If there's 1000 WRs playing in college over 6'0, and 300 under 5'9, "more failed tall WRs" is just going to make sense by volume.
I’ll bet more tall first round busts than short first round busts bc the short stature plays against them in the draft process. So I’ll bet there’s just fewer in aggregate drafted in first round, period. The better datapoint would be percentage of each drafted in each round, that pass and fail.
I feel good about him once the ball is in his hands. Its getting it there thats going to be an issue.That’s actually a good comp. herky-jerky still based on instant re-acceleration. I was thinking watching him it wouldn’t work at the NFL level, but you’re pointing out kyler’s success gives me more confidence.
after running through the last 5 drafts, not including 2021 or 2020 because it’s too soon to determine pass or fail on picks, 19% of receivers taken that are over 6’ feet tall can be considered successful. Whereas the below 6’ group is at 23%. I considered a successful career as someone that has averaged at least 500 yards per season because I didn’t organize it by round. Solar you were right that many more players were taken that were above 6’(115 to 42).
In my research I found another player that I think would be a good comp for Rondale Moore. Jamison Crowder of the NYJ. Moore is more explosive and has more top end speed, but he doesn’t have the hands crowder has either. I’m very excited to see Moore in our offense.
Lateral quickness and their ability to start and stop effortlessly and get in and out of their cuts.so, moore is more explosive and has top end speed but not as good hands as Crowder... and they somehow comp to each other?
not being snarky here... just wondering how they compare if their speed and hands are both different than each other. Simply based on size?
Crowder was used primarily his first year in Washington as a gadget/screen receiver while he worked his way through his rookie seasonso, moore is more explosive and has top end speed but not as good hands as Crowder... and they somehow comp to each other?
not being snarky here... just wondering how they compare if their speed and hands are both different than each other. Simply based on size?
Crowder was used primarily his first year in Washington as a gadget/screen receiver while he worked his way through his rookie season
Lol. I come and go on the board so I read everything and post as I read. Usually means bursts of posts from me.Ouchie preaching.
Thx for this! Crowder is interesting comp - but you’re spot on about the hands. Crowder has excellent hands.after running through the last 5 drafts, not including 2021 or 2020 because it’s too soon to determine pass or fail on picks, 19% of receivers taken that are over 6’ feet tall can be considered successful. Whereas the below 6’ group is at 23%. I considered a successful career as someone that has averaged at least 500 yards per season because I didn’t organize it by round. Solar you were right that many more players were taken that were above 6’(115 to 42).
In my research I found another player that I think would be a good comp for Rondale Moore. Jamison Crowder of the NYJ. Moore is more explosive and has more top end speed, but he doesn’t have the hands crowder has either. I’m very excited to see Moore in our offense.
AgreedLateral quickness and their ability to start and stop effortlessly and get in and out of their cuts.
First, brown was more than “serviceable.” He was a very good pick.
second, you’re absolutely right that his track record selecting wrs has been absolutely dreadful. But does that mean the cardinals just throw their hands up in the air and never draft another receiver again as long as he’s gm? That’s not a workable game plan.
So Christian Kirk v.2.0?Furthermore, he is a speed guy that has multiple hamstring injuries in college and seems to be too big for his little frame. I see him on the injury table more than being a productive 2nd round pick.
First, brown was more than “serviceable.” He was a very good pick.
second, you’re absolutely right that his track record selecting wrs has been absolutely dreadful. But does that mean the cardinals just throw their hands up in the air and never draft another receiver again as long as he’s gm? That’s not a workable game plan.
Sunk cost fallacy is alive and well here.
Hey! Our WRs suck and Keim has used some capital on them so let's stop trying to fill an important position that isn't good enough.
Dumb. Real dumb.
Like I've said, I can literally point out a part of Moore's skill set that should be an big upgrade for the Cardinals.
Sunk cost fallacy is one thing, but ignoring Keim's trend of picking fast, undersized, and underwhelming WRs is quite another. The definition of insanity and all that.
What are his hands like?
Sunk cost fallacy is one thing, but ignoring Keim's trend of picking fast, undersized, and underwhelming WRs is quite another. The definition of insanity and all that.