That was my point though. We were well at the stage I'd rather take the shot on Smith than draft a 4-3 ED from Duke nobody ever heard of or a corner with only 1 year in FBS which no ball skills.
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That was my point though. We were well at the stage I'd rather take the shot on Smith than draft a 4-3 ED from Duke nobody ever heard of or a corner with only 1 year in FBS which no ball skills.
He's certainly a modern day football player. Big Twitch streamer. Has his own Youtube channel and made a VLOG of his Pro Day.
Hard not to like him.
I'm not foolish. I know he has some technical issues. The reason I always wanted him was his elite athleticism, he's super smart and Todd Grantham's scheme sucks ass. As evidenced by that clip of him on an island vs Devonta Smith in the RZ.
Some good full time coaching and an NFL scheme will see him right I hope. Well worth a 4th though.
Another good video from him Youtube channel here. It's easy to forget how much work these kids have to put in just for the hope of getting to play on Sunday's.
At least he knows Phoenix already.
Trigger warning - He says Cat's are better than Dog's for all you dog guys out there.
Hard not to like him.
I'm not foolish. I know he has some technical issues. The reason I always wanted him was his elite athleticism, he's super smart and Todd Grantham's scheme sucks ass. As evidenced by that clip of him on an island vs Devonta Smith in the RZ.
Some good full time coaching and an NFL scheme will see him right I hope. Well worth a 4th though.
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Another good video from him Youtube channel here. It's easy to forget how much work these kids have to put in just for the hope of getting to play on Sunday's.
At least he knows Phoenix already.
Trigger warning - He says Cat's are better than Dog's for all you dog guys out there.
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Was Ron Wolfley’s Tweet aimed at Marco?
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Really like this guy. Could be my favourite pick of our draft
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He has NFL DB family everywhere. Father, uncle, was it a brother too. Thanksgiving dinner conversation is about covering the slot. The odds of him getting the NFL game are better than most.
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look forward to getting some insider perspective once training camps starts
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You can post snarky emojis all you want, but the team was nearly a playoff team and was statistically a good team.
After the Wilks year, this team looked like it was five years off from a playoff spot.
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I watched that whole game.
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Looked like the show just came off in his hand after the tackle and he just threw it in celebration. There was no “deciding” going on. It was all emotion. His problem was that he wasn’t thinking. He wasn’t trying to be an idiot.
if he had not thrown the shoe, he would have been drafted higher.
if he had not thrown the shoe, he would have been drafted higher.
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Shoechucker. Sad, but funny, nickname.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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Couple thoughts:
33% successful years, 6 years ago is faint praise
interesting observation about toughness
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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But you don’t make the risk judgment. Cards have generally been a risk-averse organization. This doesn’t surprise me one iota.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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I don’t think whole front offices of scouts and gms on multiple teams are that stupid. They all know the shoe incident. They all did their homework on it. May it have been a factor in his grades by teams? Sure. But in the land of drafting/signing domestic abusers, I’m fairly confident that the shoe didn’t cost him much, if any, draft position. As Harry said, his tape doesn’t match his athleticism.
It’s really really hard not to like this kid especially after watching his videos
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Wilson outperforms Newsome across the board in agility drills.
If SK feels that Wilson's shortcomings were overplayed, extenuating or coached out of him, Mario should be his logical choice.
If SK feels that Wilson's shortcomings were overplayed, extenuating or coached out of him, Mario should be his logical choice.
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The shoe throwing incident possibly cost Florida a spot in the playoff but I doubt it had any affect on his draft value. As others have stated he’s got a significant injury history and had trouble in coverage.
I’m glad they double-dipped on project corners cause I was about to suggest double-dipping on vet corners by signed Shermator.
I’m glad they double-dipped on project corners cause I was about to suggest double-dipping on vet corners by signed Shermator.
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A couple thoughts on this pick as most have been covered already.
1 - I agree with the idea that day 3 picks are best to be used on athletes. Between the FA market and UDFAs, the ability to get teams players is very easy.
2 - I like the longevity of legacy players as well. This kid has an idea of what it takes to play in the NFL.
3 - Sometimes the best thing for guys like this is to be taken late. That can be the motivator to refine their technique and maximize their potential.
1 - I agree with the idea that day 3 picks are best to be used on athletes. Between the FA market and UDFAs, the ability to get teams players is very easy.
2 - I like the longevity of legacy players as well. This kid has an idea of what it takes to play in the NFL.
3 - Sometimes the best thing for guys like this is to be taken late. That can be the motivator to refine their technique and maximize their potential.
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Love this kid's potential. If he realizes his full potential, he will far-and-away be the best Cardinal pick of the draft.
athleticism, speed, intelligence, the agility to play inside or outside,
He was the guy I was most excited about initially and still am.
athleticism, speed, intelligence, the agility to play inside or outside,
He was the guy I was most excited about initially and still am.
Yeah he seems like nice kid who will be popular in the locker room. He definitely has Elite measurables physically and their is no denying that.
My concerns stem from the videos that I've watched of him play football, he has looked real shaky in coverage. I also believe he is undisciplined, and for a Cardinal team that struggled last year with discipline and stupid penalties, is this a smart fit? Maybe JJ Watt will bring his brand of discipline and accountability that will rub off on his teammates? I sure hope so but I'm not holding my breath.
Still for a 4th round pick I'm OK with selecting him. If somehow this kid can be coached up then he has the physical skills to be something special. But man that is a big IF.
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It sounds like the Cardinals are going to be junking a lot of their man concepts they've been running over the past two years. Guys like Wilson won't be as exposed in more zone heavy concepts.
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Love this kid's potential. If he realizes his full potential, he will far-and-away be the best Cardinal pick of the draft.
athleticism, speed, intelligence, the agility to play inside or outside,
He was the guy I was most excited about initially and still am.
I feel completely the opposite.
He is the worst pick by far in my opinion. I watch his tape and I see a guy that only has his job because of his athletic ability but shows very poor technique.
Than he makes that cocky remark about he is the best athlete at corner and should have been drafted earlier. Kind of shows he does not have a clue.
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Hopefully with Vance Joseph can work on his technique
From what I see, he lacks consistency and concentration, he makes a good coverage and in another play look unprepared
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Chopper0080
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This was my take with how we approached free agency. I think they signed Butler pre-draft because he is a little versatile, but my guess is that we see some pure zone vet signings after no CB in the first two rounds.
Chopper0080
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It is 6 in one hand and a half dozen in the other. Most of these guys are projects. Would you rather have a guy with refined technique but can't compete athletically or a guy who struggles with his technique but can compete athletically. I say that because in rounds 4 - 7, you normally can't get both.
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Honestly I want a guy with at least some of both. I have just not seen great athletes that don't know how to play converted into good players in the NFL.
Look at all the Olympians they have tried to turn into NFL players, and basically none of them have really succeeded that I can remember.
