2023-24 Around the NBA Thread

[Mainstreet]

Trey Jemison, formerly with the Suns in summer league, will get a 10-day contract from the Wizards.

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[Mulli]

Grizzlies are trash. Bulls slightly better?

 

[Hoop Head]

Grizzlies are trash. Bulls slightly better?

With Ja being out for the season and the Grizz missing a few other key players they're really bad this year. The Bulls are just the Bulls. Can't seem to get it together.

You got some good seats though. Very cool.

 

[Mulli]

With Ja being out for the season and the Grizz missing a few other key players they're really bad this year. The Bulls are just the Bulls. Can't seem to get it together.

You got some good seats though. Very cool.

 

[Mulli]

Bulls crushed them. Easy win.

 

[Mainstreet]

Trae Young has been placed in concussion protocol by Hawks.

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[GatorAZ]

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It’s because you joined the team that beat you lol. Imagine if Booker joined the Nuggets last summer after they knocked us out. I’m a KD fan but he’s got a terrible awareness level.

 

[Mulli]

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It’s because you joined the team that beat you lol. Imagine if Booker joined the Nuggets last summer after they knocked us out. I’m a KD fan but he’s got a terrible awareness level.

Hmm, did you win 6 championship and 6 Finals' MVP? I must have missed that.

 

[Ronin]

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[Phrazbit]

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It’s because you joined the team that beat you lol. Imagine if Booker joined the Nuggets last summer after they knocked us out. I’m a KD fan but he’s got a terrible awareness level.

He isn't even in the territory... I don't think he's even in the conversation for top 10 right now. In his last 5 years his only accolade is an All-NBA 2nd team selection. Coattail riding with the Warriors and a disastrous run in Brooklyn characterized by hatchet jobs on coaches and trade demands are not the stuff legends are made off.

 

[Suns_fan69]

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[Carolinacacti]

He isn't even in the territory... I don't think he's even in the conversation for top 10 right now. In his last 5 years his only accolade is an All-NBA 2nd team selection. Coattail riding with the Warriors and a disastrous run in Brooklyn characterized by hatchet jobs on coaches and trade demands are not the stuff legends are made off.

I think you could debate conversation for top ten. No I don’t want too but put a pull up I’d put him in it

 

[Cheesebeef]

He isn't even in the territory... I don't think he's even in the conversation for top 10 right now. In his last 5 years his only accolade is an All-NBA 2nd team selection. Coattail riding with the Warriors and a disastrous run in Brooklyn characterized by hatchet jobs on coaches and trade demands are not the stuff legends are made off.

he's one of the least aware superstars in sports history. an incredible player, but he doesn't make it easy to root for him, even if he's on your team.

 

[Phrazbit]

I think you could debate conversation for top ten. No I don’t want too but put a pull up I’d put him in it

Jordan, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Duncan, LeBron, Curry, Hakeem.

That is 10 guys that I think he has zero case to be above, I came up with that list in about 15 seconds.

I am not sure where I'd place him, but it's closer to 20 than to 10.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Jordan, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Duncan, LeBron, Curry, Hakeem.

That is 10 guys that I think he has zero case to be above, I came up with that list in about 15 seconds.

I am not sure where I'd place him, but it's closer to 20 than to 10.

As much as I hate Kobe, he’s above Durant as well. First name that immediately come to mind.

But he’s got a solid argument after that with anyone who comes next, even with the gravy training on the Warriors. Although that stint and lack of success elsewhere really does complicate his legacy and where he stands in the Mount Rushmore of NBA legends.

 

[Carolinacacti]

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As much as I hate Kobe, he’s above him. First name that immediately come to mind.

But he’s got a solid argument after that with anyone who comes next, even with the gravy training on the Warriors. Although that stint and lack of success elsewhere really does complicate his legacy and where he stands in the Mount Rushmore of NBA legends.

if he wins it this year and next for the Suns, Durant is on Mount Rushmore in my eyes

 

[Phrazbit]

As much as I hate Kobe, he’s above Durant as well. First name that immediately come to mind.

But he’s got a solid argument after that with anyone who comes next, even with the gravy training on the Warriors. Although that stint and lack of success elsewhere really does complicate his legacy and where he stands in the Mount Rushmore of NBA legends.

I agree on Kobe, I'd put him above Durant as well, but I'd put him behind those other guys.

I do think Durant is a more skilled player but Kobe's force of personality drove him to a lot of success (and also ruined any chance of success at a few stages of his career). Durant's total lack of personality and leadership are probably his biggest faults as a player.

 

[Hoop Head]

Embiid dropped 70 on Wemby. He had 18 boards as well. He only made 1 3 also, which is crazy. He did have 21 FT but 70 is 70.

 

[Suns_fan69]

And 62 by KAT with 10 3s. Insane performances tonight. Embiid did it in 36 mins too...

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And 62 by KAT with 10 3s. Insane performances tonight. Embiid did it in 36 mins too...

I’d be so bummed if I was KAT. Get yo 62 overshadowed by a 70 spot.

 

[Cheesebeef]

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if he wins it this year and next for the Suns, Durant is on Mount Rushmore in my eyes

Well, yeah. That would be an absolutely incredible accomplishment. He leads a title-less franchise to back to back titles, that completely rewrites his entire story. And would probably rewrite anyone’s story.

 

[nashman]

Well, yeah. That would be an absolutely incredible accomplishment. He leads a title-less franchise to back to back titles, that completely rewrites his entire story. And would probably rewrite anyone’s story.

Even if he wins 1 I’d be the biggest Durant fan lol if he helped get the Suns their first title! He’s one of the best to ever play the game anyway. People put to much in ranking players total points and what not but some players play forever. Robert Horry has a ton of rings but no one would say he’s one of the best to ever play. KD is straight up nasty scorer one of the best to ever do it period!

 

[Phrazbit]

Even if he wins 1 I’d be the biggest Durant fan lol if he helped get the Suns their first title! He’s one of the best to ever play the game anyway. People put to much in ranking players total points and what not but some players play forever. Robert Horry has a ton of rings but no one would say he’s one of the best to ever play. KD is straight up nasty scorer one of the best to ever do it period!

I feel like your argument is contradictory.

There is too much of an emphasis on points (I can agree with that) but KD is an all time great because he is so good at scoring?

Carmelo Anthony is in the top 10 in all time scoring and I'd put him, easily, outside my top 100 in all time players.

KD is worlds better than Anthony but when I look at the greatest players ever, they are guys that achieved individual greatness and, through their own stardom, won several titles. A long stretch of greatness is also a big factor, IMO.

Between his lack of success outside of Golden State and his lack of accolades since his late 20s, he doesn't have a case.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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[Covert Rain]

Well, yeah. That would be an absolutely incredible accomplishment. He leads a title-less franchise to back to back titles, that completely rewrites his entire story. And would probably rewrite anyone’s story.

Even if he does it once it does.