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Hernandez is also fairly young.Hump/Hayes/Gaines/Hernandez/Paris with Jones/Beachum/Smith/someone else backing up would be great. Three young starters on the line.
Hernandez is also fairly young.Hump/Hayes/Gaines/Hernandez/Paris with Jones/Beachum/Smith/someone else backing up would be great. Three young starters on the line.
I agree that that’s a ridiculous timeline but I haven’t seen it posted. Granted, I don’t get to spend much time on here these days.I've read a number of posters swear they'd be perfectly happy with it. Hell, I heard one say 2-5 years would be fine with them. 2-5 years!
Yeah, let's see how long all that zen acceptance really lasts
Wells?Supposed to be good athlete but sorta weak and has difficulty anchoring. Sounds like the guard we had years ago (can’t recall his name) who we all wanted replaced every year but he kept holding onto the spot.
Sounds like most centers too. Smart, good movement skills, good at assignment football.Supposed to be good athlete but sorta weak and has difficulty anchoring.
Yep Reggie Wells. Wells was one the best OL this team has had over the Arizona era.Sounds like the guard we had years ago (can’t recall his name) who we all wanted replaced every year but he kept holding onto the spot.
I’m betting both Schmitz & Tippmann have good years.It's nothing to do with Froholdt. Insert any 4 year vet there.
It's about the odds based on NFL history of any center outside round 1 being good right away. Have a look yourself. It's nearly unicorn level rare.
Although I did miss one above. Corey Lindsey in 2014 had a great rookie season for the packers.
But the norm for any Day 2 center that starts as a rookie is Mason Cole level play and my feeling is that any 4 year year vet can offer more in the short term. In which case wait for a Center until next year in a class with much better top end talent.
I’m betting both Schmitz & Tippmann have good years.
Same. Irrational hope for Hayes.I thought same so I went and watch him at OU and there's lots of good film of him zone blocking.
For me, unless Hayes has forgot how to play football he should start at LG. That's my hope.
Jones has a shot but with only a year left it does nothing for the future.
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Same. Irrational hope for Hayes.
I would agree but versatility matters as much as talent at the NFL level when filling in the back of rosters. Hayes being only a G hurt his stock a bit.It's odd because Hayes was drafted in round 7 and Gaines in round 4 but I don't think there's any question that Hayes is the better player. Clearly better on film.
I wouldn't mind that OL to start the season, considering we'll have backup QBs to get crushed behind that line. Until and unless those younguns pan out, that is not the OL I want starting when Kyler returns, though.My dream OL to start the season is DJ / Hayes / Gaines / Hernandez / Paris. No issues with Paris sticking long term at RT. There are some good LT options in next year's draft if we want to explore replacing DJ.
I don't think much of the other LG and C options, and we have seen what Beach brings. Unless they are awful leading up to the season, I would rather just tear the bandage off with Hayes, Gaines, and Paris. IMO, Gaines is the riskiest one of the bunch.I wouldn't mind that OL to start the season, considering we'll have backup QBs to get crushed behind that line. Until and unless those younguns pan out, that is not the OL I want starting when Kyler returns, though.
I really like Tippmann's tools, but if you watch a lot of film on him, he has big hand placement issues. He gives up his chest most of the time, and while it didn't get his QB killed against DL from Central Michigan, he's going to give up some sacks and pressures early.I’m betting both Schmitz & Tippmann have good years.
Works for me.I don't think much of the other LG and C options, and we have seen what Beach brings. Unless they are awful leading up to the season, I would rather just tear the bandage off with Hayes, Gaines, and Paris. IMO, Gaines is the riskiest one of the bunch.
That's not an easy answer.Here's a question. Taking center completely out of the equation. Tippman, Schmitz, and Gaines. If you were scouting them as guard propects, who would you grade higher?
Here's a question. Taking center completely out of the equation. Tippman, Schmitz, and Gaines. If you were scouting them as guard propects, who would you grade higher?
BingoWells?
The weird thing about his injury is you cannot find a story saying exactly what it was. But, to immediately go on IR for the season in August you would certainly think it was an ACL.Did we ever hear what specific injury Gaines had...was it an ACL?
How is possible to keep some injuries so secret, even about a marginal player, it's sport not intelligence stuff, communication should be an essential part of any franchiseThe weird thing about his injury is you cannot find a story saying exactly what it was. But, to immediately go on IR for the season in August you would certainly think it was an ACL.
HIPAA?How is possible to keep some injuries so secret, it's sport not intelligence stuff, communication should be an essential part of any franchise
so smart policy applying it to sports,especially when the injury is football relatedHIPAA?