Ooh Player of the Game! lol that is funny to me
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Ouchie-Z-Clown
I'm better than Mulli!
Where is this 70 pressures number coming from? SI mentioned 52 but I can’t even find anything close to that anywhere else.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
I'm better than Mulli!
Easier to copy and paste. The reality is, that was a big deal. He dominated a game that was a huge upset against the #1 team in the country. IN ADDITION to being named all conference and racking up two seasons of double digit sacks. He was overdrafted at #7 due to his workout, but he would’ve likely still been a second pick. It was far from doing nothing . . . further than chop’s 5 sacks and 30 total tackles over multiple seasons.
Chop may end up being a good nfl player, but it’s projection more than anything at present. And a big gamble imo.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
Chop has been projected around the same spot all along. This is not the same thing at all.
Krangodnzr
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70. 52. A butt load. Couldn't remember the exact number. Thought it was 70.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
You are absolutely correct, Ouchie.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Except he's been projected around the same spot all along not due to his production, but due to projected possibilities. He's done nothing solid to be considered a 1st round prospect. This coming from a Penn State fan. He's 100 percent hopeful potential.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
I think you're not considering how NFL teams look at these players.
You're judging him based on a perceived lack of productivity. Well 50ish pressures isn't a lack of productivity. That's pretty damn productive.
And he won't be facing nearly as many spread concepts in the NFL.
52 pressures and 4 sacks means he isnt able to finish plays. College...big 10 OT's are able to stifle him and prevent him from actually getting to the QB. NFL OT's are going to be even better at that.
The fact that he also has like no tackles, means hes not really impacting the game outside of being a pure speed rusher who is in on obvious passing situations.
I would take him in the late 2nd as a specialist. I think higher than that you are REALLY banking on him figuring out a lot in the NFL, against far superior competition. I feel like hes a one trick pony, and one that is still banking on potential.
I think you are really on to something there.
Was Joe Pa the coach when Mamula was there?
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
NFL teams also often get these kinds of players horribly wrong and overdraft them. Pressures in college don't equal sacks in college, clearly, and often don't equal pressures in the NFL. Heck, sacks in college are often only pressures in the NFL. These things rarely directly translate, so don't give me a guy that chronically couldn't close the deal in college. Not in the first round. And not in the second round when we already have a developmental 2nd round we hope gets better.
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I'd be saying the same thing if JT Tuimoloau declared for the draft. He didn't put up many sack numbers, ironically other than against PSU and Oshanu, but was credited with lots "pressures". Fact is, he had a down year that lacked production and he returned to OSU.
Chopper0080
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I agree with those who are hesitant in drafting Penn St EDGE players, and Penn St players in general.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
I need an emoji to like and vehemently dislike a post at the same time.
hell...back in the glory days any Linebacker from the Lions was money....they really lived up to the "Linebacker U" moniker
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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Mamula came from Boston college
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Close enough.
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vibraslap
I don’t know what I think of Luke McCaffrey. He was pretty average from what I saw. But that could have been for a variety of reasons. Same with Chubba Purdy, for future reference.
So essentially, I’ve said nothing of relevance. Again. Carry on.
So essentially, I’ve said nothing of relevance. Again. Carry on.
Oh nevermind
Crimson Warrior
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Post FA Mock from SI has MJH going to us at #4!
www.si.com
It also refers to Marvin Harrison Jr. as "The best player in the draft, regardless of position"
Wow!
This mock has us selecting Nate Wiggins, CB from Clemson at #27!
2024 NFL Free Agency Mock Draft: First-Round Picks for All 32 Teams
With a frenzy of teams addressing their offseason needs in the open market this week, here are updated predictions for how Day 1 could go in April.
It also refers to Marvin Harrison Jr. as "The best player in the draft, regardless of position"
Wow!
This mock has us selecting Nate Wiggins, CB from Clemson at #27!
I did those hands.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
Please say no to a CB at #27. Take someone like Milton later. Or Newton from TCU.Post FA Mock from SI has MJH going to us at #4!
2024 NFL Free Agency Mock Draft: First-Round Picks for All 32 Teams
With a frenzy of teams addressing their offseason needs in the open market this week, here are updated predictions for how Day 1 could go in April.
It also refers to Marvin Harrison Jr. as "The best player in the draft, regardless of position"
Wow!
This mock has us selecting Nate Wiggins, CB from Clemson at #27!
