#27 and #35 Trade Talk

[Chopper0080]

I have done so many mock drafts and Chopper is right. The pick to trade back from is 27 because the meat of the draft is 1-7 and 25-45

Oh man...this feels sooooooooo good.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Oh man...this feels sooooooooo good.

Clean up on aisle 4 please.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I could see a team that misses out on a QB early in the first move up from the second to secure that 5th year option on a 2nd tier QB. Maybe a team like the Raiders or Falcons target a player like Michael Penix Jr.

So maybe the Raiders trade #44, #77 and a 2025 5th to move up to #27.

This

That is not enough for me

Ravens trade up to take Lamar Jackson at No. 32

Similar trade concept.

Now that I look at historical data, @MadCardDisease compensation is probably close.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I have done so many mock drafts and Chopper is right. The pick to trade back from is 27 because the meat of the draft is 1-7 and 25-45

Heh I've been saying the same thing for weeks LOL.

Trading up just doesn't feel right. Let's say you trade to #20...the players are still on a similar tier at #20 as they are even at #35.

I think the top 10 picks are all Tier 1 players and that might even extend to about pick 12. After that there is probably a Tier 2 that lasts until about pick 45.

 

[Krangodnzr]

That’s how it’s been projected. That doesn’t mean it’ll actual end up being a good draft. For all we know, this draft could end up like the 2013 draft when it’s all said & done.

I remember the 2013 draft as being pretty weak overall. There is a reason that Eric Fisher went #1 overall. He wasn't even really viewed as a slam dunk player back then. You had guys like Mingo going high LOL.

 

[Mulli]

Narrator:

"In fact, Chopper was not right."

I remember the 2013 draft as being pretty weak overall. There is a reason that Eric Fisher went #1 overall. He wasn't even really viewed as a slam dunk player back then. You had guys like Mingo going high LOL.

@kerouac9 how good was Kevin Minter? "BPA" was a lie!!!!

 

[Krangodnzr]

Narrator:

"In fact, Chopper was not right."



@kerouac9 how good was Kevin Minter? "BPA" was a lie!!!!

Looking back at that pick and you see a few picks later the Patriots take Jamie Collins and its so obviously a mistake.

Collins: 6'3 and runs a 4.6.

Minter: 5'11 and runs a 4.8.

 

[Mulli]

Looking back at that pick and you see a few picks later the Patriots take Jamie Collins and its so obviously a mistake.

Collins: 6'3 and runs a 4.6.

Minter: 5'11 and runs a 4.8.

No. Shorter dudes have better motors. Obviously.

 

[football karma]

Trading up just doesn't feel right. Let's say you trade to #20...the players are still on a similar tier at #20 as they are even at #35.

it feels like there are three pass rushers: Turner, Verse and Latu. If one of them falls into the late teens / 20 spot -- i would be perfectly ok burning a 3rds to move up and get him.

but that would be about it

 

[kerouac9]

For me, 27 is the more enticing pick to trade. I have read twitter speculation regarding Monti trying to trade 27 or 35 for young, established player. Not sure I believe it, but it is smart avenue to explore. I have said before, I don' know how much value 27 will have. Trading down from 27 would likely make sense.

@DVontel @Krangodnzr @GatorAZ @SoonerLou @Harry The Cardinals seem to be interested in Cooper DeJean...do you guys think he can play CB in the NFL? He seems too stiff to me, but I may be off.

Man, I hear this guy is an absolute animal in the gym. He's always working on his game.

I could see a team that misses out on a QB early in the first move up from the second to secure that 5th year option on a 2nd tier QB. Maybe a team like the Raiders or Falcons target a player like Michael Penix Jr.

So maybe the Raiders trade #44, #77 and a 2025 5th to move up to #27.

People SOOOOOOO overrate the value of the fifth year for teams. They'll move up to get the prospect they like, but the fifth year doesn't come into play for the vast majority of these guys.

 

[Mulli]

Cooper DeJean will be one of those glue guys. Good to have them around.

 

[Stout]

there is no rule that says trading down = out of the range of top rated players.

this is especially true when the target of the trade up is a QB.

if the Cards traded down to #6, thats still in the range of top-rated players.

Most folks are looking for a haul. I agree that #6 would keep us right in it for those top players.

 

[Stout]

I could see a team that misses out on a QB early in the first move up from the second to secure that 5th year option on a 2nd tier QB. Maybe a team like the Raiders or Falcons target a player like Michael Penix Jr.

So maybe the Raiders trade #44, #77 and a 2025 5th to move up to #27.

No way in h-e-double hockey sticks should we do that deal!

 

[Mulli]

Most folks are looking for a haul. I agree that #6 would keep us right in it for those top players.

Without a haul? WHY DIDN'T YOU MENTION A HAUL FOR TRADING DOWN?

 

[kerouac9]

Cooper DeJean will be one of those glue guys. Good to have them around.

He'd be an instant fan favorite. The kind of player other guys rally around.

 

[Mulli]

He'd be an instant fan favorite. The kind of player other guys rally around.

Can even play on offense. Emergency QB, Wildcat, really a lot of things to like.

 

[kerouac9]

Can even play on offense. Emergency QB, Wildcat, really a lot of things to like.

He's a student of the game. Like having a quarterback for the defense.

 

[SECTION 11]

Are you guys talking the gym rat?

 

[Mulli]

Those corn fed guys are just players.

 

[kerouac9]

Those corn fed guys are just players.

Just football players through and through. If we had 22 Cooper DeJeans... I'll tell you what...

 

[Mulli]

Just football players through and through. If we had 22 Cooper DeJeans... I'll tell you what...

I don't say this too often about a young man right out of college, but I like his moxie. I like it a lot.

 

[kerouac9]

I don't say this too often about a young man right out of college, but I like his moxie. I like it a lot.

You could put him at defensive line and he'd give you 110% effort on every play.

 

[Mulli]

You could put him at defensive line and he'd give you 110% effort on every play.

A real gamer.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Ravens trade up to take Lamar Jackson at No. 32

Similar trade concept.

Now that I look at historical data, @MadCardDisease compensation is probably close.

"Ravens sent their 52nd, 125th picks and a 2019 second-round selection to Philadelphia in exchange for the 32nd and 132nd selections this year."

They got a 2nd round pick in the deal and it was for #32

I still need more

 

[kerouac9]

A real gamer.

Absolutely. Plays the full 60 minutes.