3 Assistants Could Be Gone

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Grimm, Haley could be in demand

Bob McManaman
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 31, 2007 06:56 PM

Just because the Cardinals finished out of the playoffs with an 8-8 record doesn't mean people outside the organization aren't interested in their coaching staff.

A day after the team finished with just its third non-losing season in its 20-year Arizona history, rumors were rampant that at least three of first-year head coach Ken Whisenhunt's assistants could be in line for high-profile jobs elsewhere.

Speculation included assistant head coach/offensive line Russ Grimm, Whisenhunt's most trusted aide, being wooed by his former longtime team, Washington, as a possible replacement for Joe Gibbs if the Redskins coach steps aside after the playoffs.

Meanwhile, offensive coordinator Todd Haley was being seen as a potential head coaching candidate for the Miami Dolphins, now that one of his former gurus in Dallas, Bill Parcells, is running the show there.

Parcells cleaned house in the Dolphins' front office Monday, and Haley might may very well be invited to join the staff. Same goes for running backs coach Maurice Carthon, who played and coached for Parcells.

"I don't really have any expectations," Haley said. "I think it's something that could go down, but I'm trying not to get caught up in that. I love being here, I love Phoenix and the foundation we have laid.

"It's good that I know Coach Parcells, that he knows me, and that we've worked well together . . . but we'll just see what happens."

Whisenhunt said if any of his coaches were to be extended offers or if teams were to call the Cardinals and ask for interview permission, it probably wouldn't happen until today.

As for Grimm being offered a head coaching job somewhere, Whisenhunt said, "You never know. I hope so. I think, certainly, he deserves it. But in this thing, you never know."

Offensive lineman Elton Brown said he would hate to lose Grimm or Haley, who helped the Cardinals finish with the second-most points (404) in franchise history.

"At the end of the day, it's about taking care of you and your family and you understand that," he said. "If a head coaching job comes along, and they don't come along often, you've got to do what's best for yourself. If that happens, hopefully, we'll get somebody to pick up. If it doesn't, we're still headed in the right direction."

Both coaches deserve head coaching opportunities, according to quarterback Tim Hasselbeck, who said of Haley, "He's going to be a very good head coach whenever he does get the chance, just because of his passion, enthusiasm, and the way he motivates guys, which is a lot like Joe Gibbs has over the years."
 

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I hope we don't lose anyone.
 

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I really don't think losing Haley would be that big of a deal. He is an OC in title only. This is Whis's Offense. he runs it and he calls the plays.

Grimm is a mixed bag IMO. Seemed great at first. But that line play got worse as the year went on. That shouldnt happen.
 
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We need more help on the OL I believe. Exactly what I don't know but we need to go ahead and finish the building job this year that was started the last one.
 

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I really don't think losing Haley would be that big of a deal. He is an OC in title only. This is Whis's Offense. he runs it an dhe calls the plays.

Grimm is a mixed bag IMO. Seemed great at first. But that line play got worse as the year went on. That shouldnt happen.


Something you might want to consider on the site and in life. When you have a good (work) team and you lose a member or so it is not a good thing. When a group works together successfully they get better in time. Take a look at how the better teams have managed to keep their staffs virtually in tact...college level even more so. Yeah, when it is time for the little cardinals to leave the nest they have to go on to bigger and better things, hopefully momma' redbird has some new eggs to hatch that will fill the bill.
 

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:lmao: thx for the life lesson lobo!
 

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This is just home town speculation. Neither Grimm nor Haley has demonstrated enough success to be serious candidates in any GM's eyes, in my opinion.
 

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I would be really surprised if Haley was offered a HC job. Garrett from Dallas has a better pedigree and closer/more recent ties to Parcells. I think he gets the call before a lot of others and especially Haley. Grimm got passed over last year and didn't really wow anyone this year that I can see. I think he did a good job but guys like Singletary who are higher profile and hold an actual OC/DC position now will likely get more consideration.
 

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ct, I like both Grimm and Haley and hope we keep them. My opinion is they get 0 offers between them until we win.


The "family" ties in the article made cause for speculation and the ideas do have merit though. I hope your right and none of them move, rampant turnover can be a curse.

I've been amazed that as many coordinators the Patriots have gone through in the last few years they've done the unthinkable this year.

The only reason I bring that up is because I think lower turnover is better than high turnover and I want Whiz to get himself a little more grounded in the role of HC before having to deal with too many changes to his staff.
 

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why would garrett leave dallas for miami? its not like parcells is the head coach. that would be so DUMB
 

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why would garrett leave dallas for miami? its not like parcells is the head coach. that would be so DUMB
If he has any head coaching aspirations it's an obvious move. He may want to wait and possibly inherit the Dallas job some day but if he wants to be in charge now, it may be offered to him.
 

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I wouldn't mind if Clancy Pendergrass left. And I dont think that he would be given a head coaching position.
 

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Haley

There has been speculation of him going to Miami as HC, because of his ties to Parcells. While I doubt that this will happen, it would free up Cam Cameron as an OC.
 

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I would think Parcell's first choice for HC would be Jason Garrett, not Haley, but Jerry Jones won't let him go to Parcell's without a huge fight and compensation.

Russ Grimm would most likely have to go as a HC. The Redskins job would be a lateral move and would that not require compensation?

I would suspect Maurice Carthon would definitely go with Parcell's. HC or OC, with either job being a promotion not requiring compensation, which is very much a precious commodity for the Fins now. Parcell's will most likely trade out of the #1 spot for more picks and doesn't need to give them up for a coach.
 

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I would think Parcell's first choice for HC would be Jason Garrett, not Haley, but Jerry Jones won't let him go to Parcell's without a huge fight and compensation.

Russ Grimm would most likely have to go as a HC. The Redskins job would be a lateral move and would that not require compensation?

I would suspect Maurice Carthon would definitely go with Parcell's. HC or OC, with either job being a promotion not requiring compensation, which is very much a precious commodity for the Fins now. Parcell's will most likely trade out of the #1 spot for more picks and doesn't need to give them up for a coach.

Jones would have to let Garrett go because it would be a promotion.
 

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Jones is rumored to be considering tampering charges if Parcell's raids his staff.

Still nothing you can do about it, if he is offering promotions. Assuming he hasn't "officially" talked to them.
 

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Russ Grimm would most likely have to go as a HC. The Redskins job would be a lateral move and would that not require compensation?

Interesting... Did Gibbs sign that 3 year extention he was offered, or did he turn it down? anyone?
 

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Jones is rumored to be considering tampering charges if Parcell's raids his staff.

Wouldn't that be ironic? he brokers the deal to get Petrino to Arkansas and then files tampering charges against Miami.
 

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Still nothing you can do about it, if he is offering promotions. Assuming he hasn't "officially" talked to them.

The only promotion a team is required to honor is to "head coach". Several TB assistants were offered promotions to defensive coordinator and/or assistant head coach when Tony Dunge was fired and Jon Grudent was hired. TB refused to let any leave. In actuality almost all teams will allow an assistant to leave for a coordnator position.
 

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ct, I like both Grimm and Haley and hope we keep them. My opinion is they get 0 offers between them until we win.

Disagree particularly about Grimm...he has been a real candidate with several teams over the years. If Gibbs gives up I think he gets a shot there even though Snyder likes the high profile guys a la Marty S. Haley will get interviews....but not this year...only if Parcells wants him back.
 

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