49ers Interested In Leinart?

[THESMEL]

come on man

Kevin Kolb is a FA prospect, and I would cheer like a cardinal on meth, if We signed, Kolb, Josh and Skelton this year. There is nothing wrong with Matt's attitude, never has been.

MNM, 2 tds in the 1st 1/4 of his first 2 starts, 405 record game as rookie, finished the season with 3 out of the last 6 games with 100+ QB rating. He earned the 07 start in camp over KW for a new coach. The last game of the season Matt's shoulder was hurt.

Most people don't even recognize that the whole team not just Matt Leinart was in a new offense in 07. Grimm was teaching a new innovative blocking scheme in the run game. I call it the power zone, wher lineman avoid their normal blocking assignments and go straight to the 2nd level and execute a power scheme, while the backs and TE join the remaining Olineman in a zone. When it worked right, Edge got to the 2nd level with blockers, vision and choices. But never had the break away speed to fully capitalize, but it wasd there for the taking often.

Of course Whiz was calling plays, more runs than anytime since. That Pittsburg game was a great blue print win. Even using KW in the package the base offense with Matt won that game, with consistancy and continuity. Then Matt Got hurt in the 5th game, And whiz 360'd the offense to Kurts premium skill sets. Basicall putting pressure on the defense and daring them to blitz.

This put huge pressure on the Oline built and drafted for the run game. high picks Deuce and Levi both are roadgraders and we ran less than any team in the NFL since Warner took over. yes we had success with Kurt but I don't forget the multiple tuirnover games and demoralizing losses overcome by heroic performance. Oppposite of continuity and consistancy which all Qb's need, Kurt less than most, Arena, Europe and NFL experience under his belt.

Bottom Line Matt was and is not the problem with the Cardinals after KW, I seen and said it, screamed it and ate it, but I have never digested it and been able to crap it back out. before during and after this train wreck of a 2010. If Whiz couldn't see it, he is stupid or to intelligent to be practical.

I'm the only idiot in Arizona that still thinks Matt is an elite Franchise QB prospect.



From top 10 elite QB to prospect. Thats a big turn around isn't it???

 

[Shane]

Kevin Kolb is a FA prospect, and I would cheer like a cardinal on meth, if We signed, Kolb, Josh and Skelton this year. There is nothing wrong with Matt's attitude, never has been.

MNM, 2 tds in the 1st 1/4 of his first 2 starts, 405 record game as rookie, finished the season with 3 out of the last 6 games with 100+ QB rating. He earned the 07 start in camp over KW for a new coach. The last game of the season Matt's shoulder was hurt.

Most people don't even recognize that the whole team not just Matt Leinart was in a new offense in 07. Grimm was teaching a new innovative blocking scheme in the run game. I call it the power zone, wher lineman avoid their normal blocking assignments and go straight to the 2nd level and execute a power scheme, while the backs and TE join the remaining Olineman in a zone. When it worked right, Edge got to the 2nd level with blockers, vision and choices. But never had the break away speed to fully capitalize, but it wasd there for the taking often.

Of course Whiz was calling plays, more runs than anytime since. That Pittsburg game was a great blue print win. Even using KW in the package the base offense with Matt won that game, with consistancy and continuity. Then Matt Got hurt in the 5th game, And whiz 360'd the offense to Kurts premium skill sets. Basicall putting pressure on the defense and daring them to blitz.

This put huge pressure on the Oline built and drafted for the run game. high picks Deuce and Levi both are roadgraders and we ran less than any team in the NFL since Warner took over. yes we had success with Kurt but I don't forget the multiple tuirnover games and demoralizing losses overcome by heroic performance. Oppposite of continuity and consistancy which all Qb's need, Kurt less than most, Arena, Europe and NFL experience under his belt.

Bottom Line Matt was and is not the problem with the Cardinals after KW, I seen and said it, screamed it and ate it, but I have never digested it and been able to crap it back out. before during and after this train wreck of a 2010. If Whiz couldn't see it, he is stupid or to intelligent to be practical.




Dude MATT SUCKS!

 

[CardLogic]

There is nothing wrong with Matt's attitude, never has been.

And you know this for a fact, because...???


By the way, it's Pittsburgh.

 

[THESMEL]

a fact

Man if you can't respect what Matt did not say as much as what he did say. all I can do is tell you I do respect his action and non actions.

Matt was better than Kurt in 06 under Denny , and won the battle in TC starting in 07 for Whiz. Now that is compounded by the fact that Our veteran back up Kurt Warner blew the doors off the NFL in 2008. In 2007 not so much? Kurt was ok but not great.

but kurt harped on Matt being himself not trying to be Kurt! And he did, If Matt tried to play Kurts game He was doomed, like most NFL QB's in history. Kurt could blow up the team one week and be the hero the next. sometimes in the same game! He was built for that, most are not.

So Matt did what was asked of him, got spot duty in blow out losses and couple wins with lil whining, lost His Manning Commercials and Hollywood. Which I thought was an assett. Not All QB's are motivated by God and Family like Kurt. Matt was and is motivated by his Hollywood connections, He owned LA football! Matt Leinart foundation and such.

His coach didn't give him first string snaps and he steps in and does his part to defeat a hot Titans team. Kurt Retires and Matt comes out with UFA WR's and coach teasting him at the red and white scrimmage and TC. to see how he responds to adversity. Bunch of crap,

Matt needed what Kolb and other young QB's get from their team and their coach, a short extension, expression of confidence to be treated like a man and a leader of a football team. What He got lost my respect for Whiz. Kicked in the groin and career destruction and hush order for him and team mates. " I would hope they would come to me first before going to the media, Whisenhunt" Yea we sen how that worked out for Edge, Q, Beanie, Matt and that aint even counting 2nd tier players like Deuce, Breaston, Lyle and patrick. Whiz is so full of crap.

So Matt will go somewhere and be treated like a man, He never said a bad word about the Cards or Whiz in Houston. Can you at least respect that?
Matt Leinart will be a staR IN THE NFLFOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS BUT not for the 10 + loss Cardinals. Its against Whizx's warped principles.

And you know this for a fact, because...???


By the way, it's Pittsburgh.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

If Leinart signs with the 49ers, one hopes he takes THESMEL with him.

 

[Shane]

If Leinart signs with the 49ers, one hopes he takes THESMEL with him.

Then I pray he signs with the Niners. That way we kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

I'm the only idiot in Arizona that still thinks Matt is an elite Franchise QB prospect.



From top 10 elite QB to prospect. Thats a big turn around isn't it???

I was kind of wondering about the "prospect" word myself. How long has Matt been in the league?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I was kind of wondering about the "prospect" word myself. How long has Matt been in the league?

He's 28.. Been in the NFL 4 years now. He seems kind of old to be a "prospect".

 

[Duckjake]

He's 28.. Been in the NFL 4 years now. He seems kind of old to be a "prospect".

Maybe Leinart will be like Trent Green. Lost his job to Warner in St.Louis and at the age of 31 went to KC where Green threw for 21,459 yards and 118 Touchdowns for the Chiefs.

But probably not.

 

[CardLogic]

Man if you can't respect what Matt did not say as much as what he did say. all I can do is tell you I do respect his action and non actions.

I'll agree with you that Leinart kept his mouth shut until the end. But that is not what has been questioned regarding Leinart's attitude.

What has been questioned is his work ethic and mental toughness. Does Leinart have the inner drive that it takes to be a successful QB in the NFL? That is the question that remains unanswered regarding his attitude. It's not that he has a "bad attitude", ala Terrell Owens, for example. It's does Leinart have the right frame of mind about the work and effort that will be required for him to succeed in the NFL? This is the aspect of Matt Leinart that has not been proven and is NOT A FACT, but remains an unanswered question.

Indeed it is the "Hollywood" aura, you mentioned, that supports the questioning of Leinart's motivation, rather than resolving them, as you suggest.

You say the Leinart did what was asked of him... In many jobs if that's all you do, you'll get the same treatment Leinart received - "walking papers." Having the drive and skills to go beyond what is asked and expected that sets apart successful NFL QB's. And those are the questions that remain unanswered about Leinart.

For the record, I still think that Leinart has the skills, but it is anything but certain that he has the right attitude!

 

[TJ]

I'm the only idiot in Arizona that still thinks Matt is an elite Franchise QB prospect.

You arent the only idiot who supports him but he has much to prove to become a franchise QB (which is highly doubtful). He has many tangible talents to do so; however, if he lacks the dedication, desire, heart and leadership skills, he wont succeed in this league. Hopefully for his sake, he had an opportunity to improve on the mental aspect of the game while holding a clipboard for the Texans.

What the hells going on out there! And many fools agreed with Whiz, UIn Whis we Bust!

Im not going to insight another Whiz supporter vs Whiz detractor riot but I think you really dont understand anything about the decision making process that came with cutting Leinart. Your tunnel vision on the subject keeps you from seeing the big picture.

 

[THESMEL]

Don't Hope

Don't hope, Whiz can't cut me, I pay him He doesn't pay me. I'm 5th generation Arizonian Pioneer and a tough SOB. Many came to early Arizona, few stayed until they had water in the desert and air conditioning. Really Don't hope i'm going anywhere, you will suffer me.

Give me an example of Matts bad attitude? Even when He went to the media before and after he left? Hollywood, partying with girls his age when everybody wanted him to act 38, They stick it up their butt, Matts speeding tickets was the only thing that ever worried me. we stole his swagger and made him replace.

Again what is Matts glaring weakness at QB skillsets, I don't think he is the best in the NFL at any one skillset but I have him graded well above average at all at 6'5" 232 lbs, He even had Kurt in prototypical size, Wheels and ball safety?

Matts Wheels are great for a big QB, His arm average, his touch was elite, decision making, He looked off the defense, his completions in streaks was great for a a guy with 1 season worth of starts under his belt.
Whiz questioned his leadership? after this 2010 season I question Whiz'a personnell ability both assessment and management, actross the board Whiz, Graves and staff performed poorly.

P Manning has no wheels, and His ego gets him blessed and cursed at the same time.

Brees is short but quick,

All NFL QB's have flaws and blessings, Matty ias a great all around QB, watch and learn. Whiz manufatured a crappy enviroment for him and the whole team across the board, just look at us!

If Leinart signs with the 49ers, one hopes he takes THESMEL with him.

Then I pray he signs with the Niners. That way we kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

 

[john h]

I don't see how that would help that significantly. Care to explain? How much time did that QB coach have to spend with a 3rd stringer during the season? How will time out of public scrutiny translate to better play on the field?

Like so many QBs who did not make it in the NFL Matt Leinarts problems were largely beteen the ears. You can have great size, a good arm, etc but you can never really judge a QBs ability that goes on in his head. He was never under pressure behind one of the best lines in college football and with future NFL star at RB. Once he got to the NFL where things moved at lighting speed he seemed to lack what it take between the ears to be a good NFL QB. He had the body and looks of an Adonis but NFL defenses do not care who you were in college. They just want to destroy you with every hit.

 

[THESMEL]

what were you watching?

I don't know what you were watching this preseason, but I seen him complete 7-8, 4-6, get benched and go 9-10 with 2nd team all under constant blitz! While our other QB's stunk up the field.

I just don't get what others are saying, yea we lacked first downs but we went backwards rushing and Matt made the oline look better than they performed.

i could watch it again to make sure, only Cards 2010 football worth watching again except for the offensive return TD's of Levie and Breaston getting tHT's fumble in the end zone.

Matt Leinart executed an offense that whooped the great bears SB defense in his first rookie start. It was not always pretty but it was SMART!

Like so many QBs who did not make it in the NFL Matt Leinarts problems were largely beteen the ears. You can have great size, a good arm, etc but you can never really judge a QBs ability that goes on in his head. He was never under pressure behind one of the best lines in college football and with future NFL star at RB. Once he got to the NFL where things moved at lighting speed he seemed to lack what it take between the ears to be a good NFL QB. He had the body and looks of an Adonis but NFL defenses do not care who you were in college. They just want to destroy you with every hit.