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The problem is that we don't just need a legitimate starter; we need a QB that can come out slinging the ball with accuracy under pressure and under fire. Kolb isn't that guy, and I doubt he ever will be. Few QBs are. That's why I like Skelton so much. He shows all of the qualities of a QB that can do that, but he was raw last year. Beyond raw, he rarely saw any practice snaps--not first team snaps--ANY snaps--until he started. It is also why I'd love to snag an Alex Smith or Shaun Hill. Yes, I know--two former San Fran QBs. When put in a strictly shotgun, gunslinging offense, I think they'd do well. Smith won't be too expensive, as long as we outbid the Neeners, but I don't know what it would cost to trade for Hill. Then, in a year or two, let Skelton step in.
I'd be fine with those guys. I'm not a rabid Kolb fan or anything, I just think that getting a guy like that for a 1st rounder isn't paying too much.

For the value, (and for the record), I'd rather have Orton than Kolb. But if we can get smith or hill, even better. I just don't think those guys are ultimately going to be available.
 

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I'd be fine with those guys. I'm not a rabid Kolb fan or anything, I just think that getting a guy like that for a 1st rounder isn't paying too much.

For the value, (and for the record), I'd rather have Orton than Kolb. But if we can get smith or hill, even better. I just don't think those guys are ultimately going to be available.

Yeah, Hill may not be available for trade, but I bet we could get Alex Smith. The Whiners only want to give him a 1-yr, 5 mill contract. I know we can top that, and we don't have a 2nd-round QB lurking behind him.

Kolb, to me, just isn't the answer, so IMO why give up a 1st-round pick and a huge contract to a guy that's not the answer? He WILL be the starter for at least a couple of years, given the contract we'll have to give him.
 

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Yeah, Hill may not be available for trade, but I bet we could get Alex Smith. The Whiners only want to give him a 1-yr, 5 mill contract. I know we can top that, and we don't have a 2nd-round QB lurking behind him.

Kolb, to me, just isn't the answer, so IMO why give up a 1st-round pick and a huge contract to a guy that's not the answer? He WILL be the starter for at least a couple of years, given the contract we'll have to give him.

Well if that's your opinion we better trade for Kolb now because he is likely the next Drew Breese then! ;)
 

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The problem is that we don't just need a legitimate starter; we need a QB that can come out slinging the ball with accuracy under pressure and under fire. Kolb isn't that guy, and I doubt he ever will be.

Let me say this Stout. Kolb ran an all out, short passing attack at UH & quite successful. I know it's college, but he proved at the college level he can sling it with the best of them. I'm on the fence with the guy, but don't the Cards have to get it right at some point? I mean since the days of Hart, we've only had quality QB's in Lomax & Warner. :mad:
 
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Well if that's your opinion we better trade for Kolb now because he is likely the next Drew Breese then! ;)

Ha, no no no, I CALLED Brees being a star as he entered the draft :) I told all of my buddies that he would be a better NFL QB than Vick ever would, and he'd be a solid starter. So far? Brees has a SB title, and Vick has a criminal background. Score one for the Stoutster! :)
 

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The problem is that we don't just need a legitimate starter; we need a QB that can come out slinging the ball with accuracy under pressure and under fire. Kolb isn't that guy, and I doubt he ever will be. Few QBs are. That's why I like Skelton so much. He shows all of the qualities of a QB that can do that, but he was raw last year. Beyond raw, he rarely saw any practice snaps--not first team snaps--ANY snaps--until he started. It is also why I'd love to snag an Alex Smith or Shaun Hill. Yes, I know--two former San Fran QBs. When put in a strictly shotgun, gunslinging offense, I think they'd do well. Smith won't be too expensive, as long as we outbid the Neeners, but I don't know what it would cost to trade for Hill. Then, in a year or two, let Skelton step in.

I really wonder what this coaching staff really thinks about Skelton. He did cost us a starting cornerback after all. If they really believe he can be developed into a quality starter, why give up a first-rounder AND a lucrative contract for Kevin Kolb? OTOH, if they project him as no more than a solid backup, emergency starter type than the Kolb transaction makes a whole lot more sense. I thought he showed some promise last season.
 

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Name any QB that is considered available, and he can be roasted too. Even Palmer. People hate Kolb like Jalen Rose hates Duke and I don't get it.

If it's just the price tag that's one thing but can't yall admit he has shown some skill and has a future? I'm not saying superbowl MVP, I think he will pretty good.
That's all it comes down to for me, how would he do as a Cardinal? I aint getting caught up in what it takes to bring him here because I don't think it will be all that bad. Same with his contract but that's just my opinion so I can't argue it.

For who is out there I like Kolb and Palmer, I want the best out there. If someone's point is that they believe Orton or Bulger or whoever would do better here as a our QB...that's your opinion, it's all good.

I do like how folks are starting to come around on Skelton, especially if the lockout goes forever. I still think him getting playing time last year was a huge blessing for his confidence and being able to come in this year knowing what it feels like.
 

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Name any QB that is considered available, and he can be roasted too. Even Palmer. People hate Kolb like Jalen Rose hates Duke and I don't get it.

If it's just the price tag that's one thing but can't yall admit he has shown some skill and has a future? I'm not saying superbowl MVP, I think he will pretty good.
That's all it comes down to for me, how would he do as a Cardinal? I aint getting caught up in what it takes to bring him here because I don't think it will be all that bad. Same with his contract but that's just my opinion so I can't argue it.

For who is out there I like Kolb and Palmer, I want the best out there. If someone's point is that they believe Orton or Bulger or whoever would do better here as a our QB...that's your opinion, it's all good.

I do like how folks are starting to come around on Skelton, especially if the lockout goes forever. I still think him getting playing time last year was a huge blessing for his confidence and being able to come in this year knowing what it feels like.

It is the price tag! If it includes the Cardinals 2012 first-rounder, it basically amounts to anointing Kevin Kolb as the team's franchise quarterback. It's all about the risk versus reward. How much better would Kolb be than Marc Bulger in 2012 given that neither is going to get much prep time. At least Bulger has been there and done that at some point in this career, and should have a shorter learning curve with Whis' system.

You have to give pause when Michael Lombardi and Greg Rosenthal who both watch a ton of tape, say Kolb is NOT worth a first-round draft pick based on his 2011 performance. The one talent evaluator who has said he's worth a #1 is Philly-based Charlie Casserly who also drafted David Carr who turned out to be a bust in Houston. Charlie is a decent evaluator, but so far he seems to be the odd man out in setting Kolb's value.
 

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You have to give pause when Michael Lombardi and Greg Rosenthal who both watch a ton of tape, say Kolb is NOT worth a first-round draft pick based on his 2011 performance. The one talent evaluator who has said he's worth a #1 is Philly-based Charlie Casserly who also drafted David Carr who turned out to be a bust in Houston. Charlie is a decent evaluator, but so far he seems to be the odd man out in setting Kolb's value.

The same Michael Lombardi that led a putrid Browns & Raiders crew for years...they all make mistakes in evaluation.
 

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I'd peg the odds - that Kolb will be as good as Hasselbeck or Garcia - at somewhere between 25% and 40% with the odds of his having an even higher upside somewhere down around zero.

It that worth a first round draft pick or even a couple of two's?

I don't think so.

I'd rather roll the dice on Skelton & Bartell than give up anything more than a 2012 second round pick for what we think we could get from Kolb (& even then, I'd have a slightly rancid taste in my mouth)
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The premise of the OP is that giving up draft picks for Kolb and signing him to the contract he reportedly wants will give the Cards no other options at the QB position. While that may be the outcome it isn't set in stone.

If the compensation for Kolb is a 1st rd pick in 2012 then yes we won't be able to draft a QBOTF that year. If we give up a 2nd rd pick + then it would still be possible.

The money piece will be all about how the contract is written. If it is more incentive based and less guaranteed money then we wouldn't be tied down to him for several years.
 

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The premise of the OP is that giving up draft picks for Kolb and signing him to the contract he reportedly wants will give the Cards no other options at the QB position. While that may be the outcome it isn't set in stone.

If the compensation for Kolb is a 1st rd pick in 2012 then yes we won't be able to draft a QBOTF that year. If we give up a 2nd rd pick + then it would still be possible.

The money piece will be all about how the contract is written. If it is more incentive based and less guaranteed money then we wouldn't be tied down to him for several years.

If we trade for him, you bet you it will be set in stone. Kolb will not agree to an incentive-based deal, and we won't trade for him if he won't re-work his deal for an extension. And if you give up big bucks and high draft picks for a QB, he's the guy you're rolling with for at least a few years.
 

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If we trade for him, you bet you it will be set in stone. Kolb will not agree to an incentive-based deal, and we won't trade for him if he won't re-work his deal for an extension. And if you give up big bucks and high draft picks for a QB, he's the guy you're rolling with for at least a few years.

Wouldn't it be great to actually have a good QB we could roll with for a few years? We really only got 2.5 out of Warner and have had 6 different passing leaders since 2000.
 
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If we trade for him, you bet you it will be set in stone. Kolb will not agree to an incentive-based deal, and we won't trade for him if he won't re-work his deal for an extension. And if you give up big bucks and high draft picks for a QB, he's the guy you're rolling with for at least a few years.

This. "Well sign him to an incentive-based contract" only works for players on their very last legs in the NFL--guys like Bertrand Berry two years ago or Derek Anderson. Guys on the upside of their careers don't sign those deals.

The parameters of a Kevin Kolb contract are clear: a little more than what Aaron Rodgers or Matt Cassel signed the last couple of seasons. If that plus a first-round pick are too much for your blood, then you shouldn't be in favor of trading for him.

Looking back at the Jake Plummer era, it was interesting for me to find that we never really passed on a promising quarterback in the draft because of our commitment to Plummer; there just were not that many promising QBs in those four drafts when we were picking (or at least guys who worked out). If you think that there are interesting pro quarterback prospects coming out in the next couple of years, you should also not favor a trade for Kolb.

People act like a team can't make the playoffs with a journeyman quarterback, but the Tampa Bay Bucs made the playoffs in 2007 with Jeff Garcia as their starter, won 11 games in 2005 with Brian Griese and Chris Simms as their starting QBs, and made the playoffs three times (winning the Super Bowl once) between 2000 and 2002 with three different passing leaders in Brad Johnson, Shaun King, and Trent Dilfer. The Steelers won 10 games in 2002 with Tommy Maddox as their starting QB.
 

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This. "Well sign him to an incentive-based contract" only works for players on their very last legs in the NFL--guys like Bertrand Berry two years ago or Derek Anderson. Guys on the upside of their careers don't sign those deals.

The parameters of a Kevin Kolb contract are clear: a little more than what Aaron Rodgers or Matt Cassel signed the last couple of seasons. If that plus a first-round pick are too much for your blood, then you shouldn't be in favor of trading for him.

Looking back at the Jake Plummer era, it was interesting for me to find that we never really passed on a promising quarterback in the draft because of our commitment to Plummer; there just were not that many promising QBs in those four drafts when we were picking (or at least guys who worked out). If you think that there are interesting pro quarterback prospects coming out in the next couple of years, you should also not favor a trade for Kolb.

People act like a team can't make the playoffs with a journeyman quarterback, but the Tampa Bay Bucs made the playoffs in 2007 with Jeff Garcia as their starter, won 11 games in 2005 with Brian Griese and Chris Simms as their starting QBs, and made the playoffs three times (winning the Super Bowl once) between 2000 and 2002 with three different passing leaders in Brad Johnson, Shaun King, and Trent Dilfer. The Steelers won 10 games in 2002 with Tommy Maddox as their starting QB.

The Steelers won 13 games with Kordell Stewart. The Titans 13 games with Kerry Collins.

The Cards won 11 of 14 with Throw it Too High Jimmy Hart. :D
 

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People act like a team can't make the playoffs with a journeyman quarterback, but the Tampa Bay Bucs made the playoffs in 2007 with Jeff Garcia as their starter, won 11 games in 2005 with Brian Griese and Chris Simms as their starting QBs, and made the playoffs three times (winning the Super Bowl once) between 2000 and 2002 with three different passing leaders in Brad Johnson, Shaun King, and Trent Dilfer. The Steelers won 10 games in 2002 with Tommy Maddox as their starting QB.
I don't think people are dismissing the "possibility". But they are anticipating the "probability".

Also, the teams you mentioned were good "teams". The Cardinals have been relying heavily on their offense and QB play during recent years and their run of success. One could rotate journeymen in TB because the strength of their team stayed in tact. Look at some other teams who've been rotating QB's though. Buffalo, Carolina, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Miami, Oakland, SF, Washington...I think the odds are certainly clear that having stability at the QB position is the way to go.
 

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I don't think people are dismissing the "possibility". But they are anticipating the "probability".

Also, the teams you mentioned were good "teams". The Cardinals have been relying heavily on their offense and QB play during recent years and their run of success. One could rotate journeymen in TB because the strength of their team stayed in tact. Look at some other teams who've been rotating QB's though. Buffalo, Carolina, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Miami, Oakland, SF, Washington...I think the odds are certainly clear that having stability at the QB position is the way to go.

Agreed. Now, moreso than ever, the best teams in the league almost always have top qb's. Until we get one, we'll probably be on the outside looking in.
 
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I don't think people are dismissing the "possibility". But they are anticipating the "probability".

Also, the teams you mentioned were good "teams". The Cardinals have been relying heavily on their offense and QB play during recent years and their run of success. One could rotate journeymen in TB because the strength of their team stayed in tact. Look at some other teams who've been rotating QB's though. Buffalo, Carolina, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Miami, Oakland, SF, Washington...I think the odds are certainly clear that having stability at the QB position is the way to go.

Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt has had five years now to build a team that can survive and thrive without a Top 5 QB playing under center (or in the shotgun). The Kurt Warner Resurgance should've allowed the head coach and front office to put together a unit to survive once Warner retired. Instead, we've had a string of abject failures in both free agency and the draft that have prevented us from doing anything but flailing uselessly about for the next possible savior at QB.

The Ravens have been super-competitive the last decade with a revolving door at the QB position--and while Joe Flacco can provide continuity at the QB position, but he was FootballOutsiders' 11th ranked passer in 2010. Matt Cassel was 14th.

Detroit (Joey Harrington and now Matt Stafford), Buffalo (Trent Edwards after J.P. Losman), Oakland (JaMarcus Russell), San Francisco (Alex Smith), and Washington (Jason Campbell) are all examples of teams who went all-in with the wrong quarterback and were stuck with a guy (or two) who couldn't get the job done. A parallel to that is that they had such a churning front office and head coaching situation with those teams that the QB could never be settled in a system.

The Washington Redskins made the playoffs in 2005 and 2007 with Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell as leading passers, respectively. In 2003 the Miami Dolphins won 10 games with Jay Fiedler as the leading passer, had a winning record in 2005 with Gus Ferrotte, and won 11 games and made the playoffs in 2008 with Chad Pennington, whom they acquired from the Jets.

It's easier to win in the NFL if you have a top-shelf starter, but it's not a prerequisite. That's why I don't understand the dying urgency to get Kevin Kolb when it seems like the evaluation of him as a Top 10-type quarterback is a minority opinion.
 

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Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt has had five years now to build a team that can survive and thrive without a Top 5 QB playing under center (or in the shotgun). The Kurt Warner Resurgance should've allowed the head coach and front office to put together a unit to survive once Warner retired. Instead, we've had a string of abject failures in both free agency and the draft that have prevented us from doing anything but flailing uselessly about for the next possible savior at QB.

The Ravens have been super-competitive the last decade with a revolving door at the QB position--and while Joe Flacco can provide continuity at the QB position, but he was FootballOutsiders' 11th ranked passer in 2010. Matt Cassel was 14th.

Detroit (Joey Harrington and now Matt Stafford), Buffalo (Trent Edwards after J.P. Losman), Oakland (JaMarcus Russell), San Francisco (Alex Smith), and Washington (Jason Campbell) are all examples of teams who went all-in with the wrong quarterback and were stuck with a guy (or two) who couldn't get the job done. A parallel to that is that they had such a churning front office and head coaching situation with those teams that the QB could never be settled in a system.

The Washington Redskins made the playoffs in 2005 and 2007 with Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell as leading passers, respectively. In 2003 the Miami Dolphins won 10 games with Jay Fiedler as the leading passer, had a winning record in 2005 with Gus Ferrotte, and won 11 games and made the playoffs in 2008 with Chad Pennington, whom they acquired from the Jets.

It's easier to win in the NFL if you have a top-shelf starter, but it's not a prerequisite. That's why I don't understand the dying urgency to get Kevin Kolb when it seems like the evaluation of him as a Top 10-type quarterback is a minority opinion.

Kolb is probably the best option out there fro the now and the then. I don't see how you can predict how or what he will demand in his contract, like you say...he hasn't proven it enough to deserve that type of money. So your saying he shouldn't get top 10 money, I think everybody feels that way. I think it should be based on performance but who knows.

If you don't think he is worth a first rounder or whatever, I'd refute that with my opinion being that he is worth more (for the now and the future) than any QB we could have gotten in the draft, I seem to recall you not being keen on any of them with the #5 pick.

If we wait to get a QB in next year's draft (or the one after that), they most likely won't be able to step in right away like Kolb can now, so that would be atleast 2-3 years before we really started over with a young new QB that can grow with a team.

If you still insist on a mediocre cheap QB and want to spin it like we can probably still be successful with one, that's your take on it. My spin on it is that if Kolb is good, he can stay here for awhile. We could be successful for years to come like other teams have, the team's who get a young talented QB while he is young.

I applaud the way the Cards are going after (IMO) the best QB available, last year's offense was porous. I also like what they did in the draft. I don't know if Kolb will be top 10, but I think he will a pretty good QB. He's the best option out there and probably the only guy Whiz will bet his job on...which is kinda what he would be doing.
 
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Kolb is probably the best option out there fro the now and the then. I don't see how you can predict how or what he will demand in his contract, like you say...he hasn't proven it enough to deserve that type of money. So your saying he shouldn't get top 10 money, I think everybody feels that way. I think it should be based on performance but who knows.

The reports about what Kolb would want in a contract are out there. All you have to do is go and look for them. Player contracts aren't based on performance any more for veterans than they are for rookies: Just ask Karlos Dansby, Calvin Pace, and Antonio Smith. They're based on what you think they'll do in the future.

If you don't think he is worth a first rounder or whatever, I'd refute that with my opinion being that he is worth more (for the now and the future) than any QB we could have gotten in the draft, I seem to recall you not being keen on any of them with the #5 pick.

In this draft? You're probably right. But I don't think he's worth more than a QB that we could take in next year's draft, regardless of where we're picking.

If we wait to get a QB in next year's draft (or the one after that), they most likely won't be able to step in right away like Kolb can now, so that would be atleast 2-3 years before we really started over with a young new QB that can grow with a team.

Why is it assured that Kolb can take in a new system in two months or less and play at a high level? A.J. Feeley didn't perform at a high level for the Dolphins when asked to integrate into a new system, and no one on our coaching staff has any experience in the West Coast offense to which Kolb has been accustomed his entire playing career. The historical results of QBs leaving the West Coast offense and being successful in other styles is pretty discouraging.

If you still insist on a mediocre cheap QB and want to spin it like we can probably still be successful with one, that's your take on it. My spin on it is that if Kolb is good, he can stay here for awhile. We could be successful for years to come like other teams have, the team's who get a young talented QB while he is young.

And if Kolb is bad? Or merely not good? We're invested in him for the next three years at least.

I applaud the way the Cards are going after (IMO) the best QB available, last year's offense was porous. I also like what they did in the draft. I don't know if Kolb will be top 10, but I think he will a pretty good QB. He's the best option out there and probably the only guy Whiz will bet his job on...which is kinda what he would be doing.

I don't think "porous" means what you think it does. But our offense last year was terrible. But it was terrible because we had three of the five worst quarterbacks in the NFL trying to operate it. If you can get a mid-level QB to operate a talented offense for a third of the price of Kolb (and little to no draft pick compensation), why not look to the future with a more talented player?
 

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The reports about what Kolb would want in a contract are out there. All you have to do is go and look for them. Player contracts aren't based on performance any more for veterans than they are for rookies: Just ask Karlos Dansby, Calvin Pace, and Antonio Smith. They're based on what you think they'll do in the future.
I aint too worried about the contract (aint my money), more about the QB. But if we are paying someone...


In this draft? You're probably right. But I don't think he's worth more than a QB that we could take in next year's draft, regardless of where we're picking.
We don't know where we will be picking, that does matter and that draft pick would still need another year to groom...how long are you going to be ok with sucking?

Why is it assured that Kolb can take in a new system in two months or less and play at a high level? A.J. Feeley didn't perform at a high level for the Dolphins when asked to integrate into a new system, and no one on our coaching staff has any experience in the West Coast offense to which Kolb has been accustomed his entire playing career. The historical results of QBs leaving the West Coast offense and being successful in other styles is pretty discouraging.
It would be fun to watch the team gel with Kolb, not painful and hopeless like last year. It should be easy to see if it's working or not by the end of the season, or atleast be able to tell whether or or not he is the guy (I understand you think he isn't).


And if Kolb is bad? Or merely not good? We're invested in him for the next three years at least.
If Kolb is bad it would suck, but can't that be said about any QB we get? I get your talking about the money or draftpicks again but that's what teams have to do. No chances means no rings, I'm not saying Kolb is anything but one of the best options out there and I'b be stoked if he comes here.



I don't think "porous" means what you think it does. But our offense last year was terrible. But it was terrible because we had three of the five worst quarterbacks in the NFL trying to operate it. If you can get a mid-level QB to operate a talented offense for a third of the price of Kolb (and little to no draft pick compensation), why not look to the future with a more talented player?
I threw porous in there cuz that was your favorite word last season. :p I did use it rather porously. :p
 
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I threw porous in there cuz that was your favorite word last season. :p I did use it rather porously. :p

Defense was porous

Offense was horrific

Team was ghastly
 

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& the coaching was butt ugly :D

sounds like we hit a grand slam!!!

Yessir! One thing we are really good at is making excuses for why the Cards went 5-11 since they do it every other year it seems. The really sad thing is that we were a couple of lucky breaks from being 3-13 or 2-14 in 2009.

Still IMO one of the worst performances by any Cardinal team since the 2000 squad quit and went home after week 6. It really says a lot about your franchise when you get outscored 197 to 63 over the last 7 games of a season like they did in 2000. No pride no nothing. Obviously a bunch of guys who were proud to be Arizona Cardinals. :barf:

Lay down and die when the going gets tough. That's our franchise's tradition.

Obviously CKW hasn't changed the culture at Warner and Hardy like we thought.
 

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If we trade for him, you bet you it will be set in stone. Kolb will not agree to an incentive-based deal, and we won't trade for him if he won't re-work his deal for an extension. And if you give up big bucks and high draft picks for a QB, he's the guy you're rolling with for at least a few years.

This. "Well sign him to an incentive-based contract" only works for players on their very last legs in the NFL--guys like Bertrand Berry two years ago or Derek Anderson. Guys on the upside of their careers don't sign those deals.

The parameters of a Kevin Kolb contract are clear: a little more than what Aaron Rodgers or Matt Cassel signed the last couple of seasons. If that plus a first-round pick are too much for your blood, then you shouldn't be in favor of trading for him.

Looking back at the Jake Plummer era, it was interesting for me to find that we never really passed on a promising quarterback in the draft because of our commitment to Plummer; there just were not that many promising QBs in those four drafts when we were picking (or at least guys who worked out). If you think that there are interesting pro quarterback prospects coming out in the next couple of years, you should also not favor a trade for Kolb.

People act like a team can't make the playoffs with a journeyman quarterback, but the Tampa Bay Bucs made the playoffs in 2007 with Jeff Garcia as their starter, won 11 games in 2005 with Brian Griese and Chris Simms as their starting QBs, and made the playoffs three times (winning the Super Bowl once) between 2000 and 2002 with three different passing leaders in Brad Johnson, Shaun King, and Trent Dilfer. The Steelers won 10 games in 2002 with Tommy Maddox as their starting QB.

I have attached links discussing Schaubs contract info. My impression is that if we do a similar deal for Kolb that the Cards won't be financially handcuffed if after a year we decide he isn't the answer.

http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/the-truth-about-matt-schaub-s-contract

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2808100

Obviously with our ownerships history Whiz may have a hard time saying sorry I wasted money and two 2nd rd picks but we need to cut him loose now to minimize the damage. It would hurt but wouldn't stop us from drafting a QB in 2012 in rd1. By then the slotting should be in place so the financial impact of drafting a QB high won't be as bad as in the past.
 
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