A goodbye from Nash to Suns fans

[Griffin]

Has Nash ever looked at the makeup of the roster? What did he expect after he said he would only stay if they made improvements but at the same time demanded big money to stay himself?

Nash took a $9M/year deal from the Lakers even while being offered $12M/year from Toronto. The Suns gave Dragic $8.5M/year. I think there was a good chance that if the Suns offered the money they gave Dragic to Nash then Nash would have re-signed here. They still would have been able to go after Gordon and Beasley. But the Suns never made Nash an offer, not for any amount. They chose to go with Dragic instead, despite having just drafted a PG. I don't think it was ever really about the money. The Suns had the money to get Gordon and keep Nash, if they wanted to. They chose to go a different route.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Nash took a $9M/year deal from the Lakers even while being offered $12M/year from Toronto. The Suns gave Dragic $8.5M/year. I think there was a good chance that if the Suns offered the money they gave Dragic to Nash then Nash would have re-signed here. They still would have been able to go after Gordon and Beasley. But the Suns never made Nash an offer, not for any amount. They chose to go with Dragic instead, despite having just drafted a PG. I don't think it was ever really about the money. The Suns had the money to get Gordon and keep Nash, if they wanted to. They chose to go a different route.

They had to improve the roster before they could make an offer to Nash. Listen, this is the way it had to be.

 

[Cheesebeef]

i'm glad Nash is finally gone (though hate where he went), but man it strikes me as incredibly odd that the team didn't even give him a heads up on what their plans were.

no wonder Nash had no problems putting on his most heated rivals jersey. if you're own team doesn't give a **** about you, why would you show any kind of loyalty to them?

 

[SunsTzu]

i'm glad Nash is finally gone (though hate where he went), but man it strikes me as incredibly odd that the team didn't even give him a heads up on what their plans were.

no wonder Nash had no problems putting on his most heated rivals jersey. if you're own team doesn't give a **** about you, why would you show any kind of loyalty to them?

Yeah that seems to go against how they approached him last year. It certainly does make the family angle more plausible if he was really thinking of captaining this sinking ship another 2-3 years.

 

[Gee!]

i'm glad Nash is finally gone (though hate where he went), but man it strikes me as incredibly odd that the team didn't even give him a heads up on what their plans were.

no wonder Nash had no problems putting on his most heated rivals jersey. if you're own team doesn't give a **** about you, why would you show any kind of loyalty to them?

I dont believe Nash for minute on this.. If one thing the Suns have done is be ignorant in trying to keep Nash..

He feels jilted? Yet the Suns signed off on this.. Its the only it could have happened.. Lakers couldnt get him at his prce without a sign and trade..

Nash is just feeling the heat of going to the Lakers.. Nash is a well read guy.. Its divide and conquer.. Art of War

 

[AfroSuns]

I dont get why some fans are mad, and check out these Bozos burning his Jersey.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...oenix-Suns-fans-destroying-Steve-Nash-jerseys

i dont like his move to the Lakers but if he gets to an NBA final, i will be rooting for him. i just dont think Mike Brown is the right coach.

 

[BC867]

Steve Nash arranged the Suns being able to rebuild and he himself having the opportunity to win a championship in the twilight of his career.

How can any Suns fan resent him for that? He showed more initiative than our own Front Office.

We are not in the Lakers league. As much as we claim to have a rivalry, we may think that they are our rivals, but we are not theirs.

Steve has meant so much to this team. I would never turn on him.

Unfortunately for him, I agree that Mike Brown is not the Head Coach to lead the Lakers to a championship. I think Alvin Gentry would have a better chance of accomplishing that with the Lakers.

 

[Mainstreet]

Nash took a $9M/year deal from the Lakers even while being offered $12M/year from Toronto. The Suns gave Dragic $8.5M/year. I think there was a good chance that if the Suns offered the money they gave Dragic to Nash then Nash would have re-signed here. They still would have been able to go after Gordon and Beasley. But the Suns never made Nash an offer, not for any amount. They chose to go with Dragic instead, despite having just drafted a PG. I don't think it was ever really about the money. The Suns had the money to get Gordon and keep Nash, if they wanted to. They chose to go a different route.

I totally agree with what you are saying. The perplexing part is that before the trading deadline and off season Babby was singing the tune that Nash should retire a Sun. Certainly it appears the Suns could afford him.

Was Babby not being honest or what changed?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I totally agree with what you are saying. The perplexing part is that before the trading deadline and off season Babby was singing the tune that Nash should retire a Sun. Certainly it appears the Suns could afford him.

Was Babby not being honest or what changed?

Something that almost nobody has mentioned, but a very interesting change. Around the trade deadline, Nash was the "sun, the moon and the stars", and the very idea of letting him go was ridiculous. How quickly things change.

More evidence of a front office with no direction, and no idea how to run a team.

 

[Chaplin]

I don't get it. Let Nash go, keep Nash... Which is it? Bitch if he stays, bitch if he goes. He went to the Lakers, so what? I guarantee they don't consider us arch rivals, so they are probably laughing at the pettiness of Suns fans that can't get over trading him to a team that is so far above us, it's hardly worth talking about.

I hate that it was the lakers, but we got some assets, whether good or bad. Time to move on. And Nash will retire a Sun and get into the Hall as a Sun, you can count on that. He may not play with us in his final season, but he'll remain a Sun forever.

 

[Mainstreet]

Something that almost nobody has mentioned, but a very interesting change. Around the trade deadline, Nash was the "sun, the moon and the stars", and the very idea of letting him go was ridiculous. How quickly things change.

More evidence of a front office with no direction, and no idea how to run a team.

I'm thinking there is more to the story than a Suns FO with no direction. IMO, something smells foul. When something doesn't make sense it's usually not true.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't get it. Let Nash go, keep Nash... Which is it? Bitch if he stays, bitch if he goes. He went to the Lakers, so what? I guarantee they don't consider us arch rivals, so they are probably laughing at the pettiness of Suns fans that can't get over trading him to a team that is so far above us, it's hardly worth talking about.

I hate that it was the lakers, but we got some assets, whether good or bad. Time to move on. And Nash will retire a Sun and get into the Hall as a Sun, you can count on that. He may not play with us in his final season, but he'll remain a Sun forever.

There is no bitching on the part of ASUCHRIS and I. Read our posts.

What we are trying to figure out is why Babby was maintaining Nash should retire a Sun... and Nash could have stayed a Sun with an affordable contract. I never seen Nash clamoring for a championship before the trade.

 

[Covert Rain]

More evidence of a front office with no direction, and no idea how to run a team.

+1

This is not about letting Nash go. It was WAY over due and should have happened sooner which might have netted us more versus picks that will probably never net anything in return.

This is just another example of this "Non NBA Guy" approach to running this FO and continually eroding the Suns FO.

Seriously...if this team has a "vision" they should have cleaned up their glasses and avoided any hallucinogen drugs before coming up with one.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is part of what Griffin posted earlier.

For some reason this link does not work on my post.

"I did want to come back, move the franchise forward and leave it in a better place than the past two seasons," Nash said. "The Suns knew that. Once I realized they were going in a new direction, I got used to the idea that I'd be elsewhere. It's still going to take time to get used to."

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...teve-nash.html

 

[Chaplin]

Here is part of what Griffin posted earlier.

For some reason this link does not work on my post.

"I did want to come back, move the franchise forward and leave it in a better place than the past two seasons," Nash said. "The Suns knew that. Once I realized they were going in a new direction, I got used to the idea that I'd be elsewhere. It's still going to take time to get used to."

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...teve-nash.html

Except he didn't mention wanting high dollars for another three years. For a team this bad, that would have been devastating.

 

[Mainstreet]

+1

This is not about letting Nash go. It was WAY over due and should have happened sooner which might have netted us more versus picks that will probably never net anything in return.

This is just another example of this "Non NBA Guy" approach to running this FO and continually eroding the Suns FO.

Seriously...if this team has a "vision" they should have cleaned up their glasses and avoided any hallucinogen drugs before coming up with one.

The bigger issue is what made the Suns change their mind not that it happened. Babby was adamant that Nash would retire a Sun before the off season. I don't believe the Suns FO changed their mind without a significant reason.

 

[Mainstreet]

Except he didn't mention wanting high dollars for another three years. For a team this bad, that would have been devastating.

Babby had to know what Nash would command on the open market. I guessed 12M per season for three seasons on another thread. In fact Toronto did offer this. The Lakers got Nash way below projected salary (at least by me) for three years at 27M. The point is Babby claimed he wanted Nash to retire a Sun and was quite firm about it, then he lets him go for a contract offer he should have expected.

I expect to hear more details on why Babby went a different direction sometime down the road.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't get it. Let Nash go, keep Nash... Which is it? Bitch if he stays, bitch if he goes.

no, you obviously don't get it. A lot of wanting him gone, yes. But to OUR arch rivals? no. and to make the trade in such a rush? from all reports, they didn't even call us. We called THEM. and I don't buy the kids angle. if nash really wanted to be near his kids, why does the guy live all the way across the country for them during the summer, the one period of time that he could be with them at all times?

He went to the Lakers, so what? I guarantee they don't consider us arch rivals, so they are probably laughing at the pettiness of Suns fans that can't get over trading him to a team that is so far above us, it's hardly worth talking about.

I could give a rat's ass what Laker fans think. you make it seem like it's just a minority of Suns fans who are cheesed off about this move. the republic's headline was: NO! NOT LA! Don't get why you don't understand why people are pissed about this.

 

[BC867]

The republic's headline was: NO! NOT LA! Don't get why you don't understand why people are pissed about this.

That was the headline on the FRONT page, not the SPORTS page. There is a difference.

We on this site would get our sports news and editorials from the SPORTS page rather than the FRONT page of the newspaper/AzCentral.com site.

 

[Gee!]

People in PHX are alot more pissed off about this then what is being typed on this site.. I frankly dont get how people can say "Im happy for him" or "I hope he gets his ring".. Sure I would have been saying those things if he went to any other team.. But the Lakers? And he orchastrated it? After saying he is old school? Then played the kids card? Then played the Suns organization wouldnt work with him? Ya this guy is lying to everyone and some of you guys are lapping it right up..

Thanks for what you did here Nash. But F you and your Purple and Piss Yellow jersey now.. Hope he fails miserably..

 

[Brian in Mesa]

 

[Mainstreet]

I just want to know why Babby and Nash parted ways, objectively, without getting into all this rivalry stuff. Babby wanted Nash to retire a Sun and then he doesn't even try to keep him. It just doesn't make sense. It's not like Babby had to match Toronto's incredible offer. Babby knew what Nash would likely command in the off season yet he babbles on how he wants Nash to be a Sun for life.

There is some part missing and it's not money, a championship or Nash wanting to be a Laker... it's why, all of a sudden, the Suns didn't want Nash. No offer from the Suns.

 

[mojorizen7]

Nash to the Lakers?

"Well,bye..."

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[Chaplin]

I just want to know why Babby and Nash parted ways, objectively, without getting into all this rivalry stuff. Babby wanted Nash to retire a Sun and then he doesn't even try to keep him. It just doesn't make sense. It's not like Babby had to match Toronto's incredible offer. Babby knew what Nash would likely command in the off season yet he babbles on how he wants Nash to be a Sun for life.

There is some part missing and it's not money, a championship or Nash wanting to be a Laker... it's why, all of a sudden, the Suns didn't want Nash. No offer from the Suns.

Why is it such a big deal? He is gone, which is what people wanted. We won't even challenge the lakers until after he is retired. If he considered the lakers as a viable option, isn't that considered more of a slap in the face then the franchise moving on without him?

And how many gms say things and reneg on them? All of them do.

 

[Mainstreet]

Why is it such a big deal? He is gone, which is what people wanted. We won't even challenge the lakers until after he is retired. If he considered the lakers as a viable option, isn't that considered more of a slap in the face then the franchise moving on without him?

And how many gms say things and reneg on them? All of them do.

The reason it is a big deal for me, is because it involves the credibility of the Sun FO, in particular Lon Babby. It's not like Babby said he wanted Steve Nash back... he preached it... no if, and or but. He said he wanted Nash to retire a Sun over and over again. And then Babby lets Nash walk away without nary an offer. This is why it is important. What gives? There has to be more.