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http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

1. Texans - Reggie Bush
2. Saints - Matt Leinart
3. Titans - Vince Young
4. Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
5. Packers - AJ Hawk
6. Raiders - Mario Williams
7. 49er's - Vernon Davis
8. Bills - Haloti Ngata
9. Lions - Winston Justice
10. Cardinals - Deangelo Williams

13. Ravens - Jimmy Williams

27. Steelers - Lendale White
 

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CardShark said:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

1. Texans - Reggie Bush
2. Saints - Matt Leinart
3. Titans - Vince Young
4. Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
5. Packers - AJ Hawk
6. Raiders - Mario Williams
7. 49er's - Vernon Davis
8. Bills - Haloti Ngata
9. Lions - Winston Justice
10. Cardinals - Deangelo Williams

13. Ravens - Jimmy Williams

27. Steelers - Lendale White

A good debate question is who would you rather have DeAngelo Williams or Lendale White? Different type of players. One is a power guy from a big school. The other more of a shifty runner from a smaller conference. For the Cards needs I would take White due to our lousy performance in the red zone. We already have the smaller shifty back in JJ.
 

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CardShark said:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

1. Texans - Reggie Bush
2. Saints - Matt Leinart
3. Titans - Vince Young
4. Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
5. Packers - AJ Hawk
6. Raiders - Mario Williams
7. 49er's - Vernon Davis
8. Bills - Haloti Ngata
9. Lions - Winston Justice
10. Cardinals - Deangelo Williams

13. Ravens - Jimmy Williams

27. Steelers - Lendale White

If the Steelers want White then I know I want him as they are noted for having the best draft program in the NFL.
 

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As much as I like Deangelo, I'd take LenDale over him...White and JJ together will be pretty potent.

I'm of the opinion, however, that White isn't coming out. Just a hunch.
 

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john h said:
We already have the smaller shifty back in JJ.
I think you misspelled that. Looks like you typed am 'f' instead of a 't.' ;)
 

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As much as I like Deangelo, I'd take LenDale over him...White and JJ together will be pretty potent.

Yeah I would be pissed if we passed on White for Deangelo at this point.

Not to mention passing on Cutler, Jimmy Williams, Huff, and Demeco Ryans.

Oh and Marcus McNeil...


Yikes!!
 
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I don't particually like the fact that we may pick a RB in the first round. I would be very upset if we passed over White to grab Williams though. Williams is the same makeup as JJ is. If we do grab a back, we should grab a power back and DeAngelo is not.

I'm of the opinion, however, that White isn't coming out. Just a hunch.
According to some people, White may be accademically ineligible next year. I would be suprised if he does not come out.
 

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Pariah said:
I think you misspelled that. Looks like you typed am 'f' instead of a 't.' ;)

Sometimes it's like a mind meld thing Pariah!

other times, not so much.
 

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dreamcastrocks said:
I don't particually like the fact that we may pick a RB in the first round. I would be very upset if we passed over White to grab Williams though. Williams is the same makeup as JJ is. If we do grab a back, we should grab a power back and DeAngelo is not.


According to some people, White may be accademically ineligible next year. I would be suprised if he does not come out.


SUC, err I mean USC fans say he is, that almost not being eligible this year taught him a lesson (no doubt that USC has ways to keep players eligible but you have to let them know you need someone to do your classwork for you).

White is in the same boat he's checking with family and evaluating where he'll go this year. He's related to Chauncey Billups(either his uncle or his cousin I forget) and Billups told him to stay in school and enjoy his senior year. Leinart told him the same thing. Carroll is trying to get him to stay telling him you're the Heisman favorite. Before that game I figure if he can come back he will, after that game, anybody's guess.
 

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Carroll is trying to get him to stay telling him you're the Heisman favorite.
Someone else on the site mentioned it, and I tend to agree: if Young stays, White really doesn't have a prayer to win the Heisman and he declares. If Young declares, White stays.
 

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Pariah said:
Someone else on the site mentioned it, and I tend to agree: if Young stays, White really doesn't have a prayer to win the Heisman and he declares. If Young declares, White stays.


There could be four good candidates for next years Heisman:

Vince Young
LenDale White
Brady Quinn
Adrian Peterson

I keep hearing sports announcers say the Young is a lock for the Heisman. Well who would have thought that Leinart would finish third this year in the voting.
 

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Pariah said:
Someone else on the site mentioned it, and I tend to agree: if Young stays, White really doesn't have a prayer to win the Heisman and he declares. If Young declares, White stays.

I really don't think winning the Heisman Trophy is a "sure fire" path to stardom or to necessary riches in the NFL. In all honesty, I can't recall who won it the year before Leinart (I'm sure if I thought it out, it would come to me). My point is, there are very compelling reasons for Young to declare.....none greater than the possibility of changes to the CBA that might put a ceiling on what a #1 pick might expect in terms of a contract.
 

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I really don't think winning the Heisman Trophy is a "sure fire" path to stardom or to necessary riches in the NFL.
No, of course not, but you can't argue that it's not desired by college players.
 

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I got ripped for this idea in another thread, but if Lendale comes out and is projected to go in the low or middle part of the first down, I say trade down.

If we can work a trade that would get us a serviceable OLineman, and then be able to pick up Lendale in the 1st round, I have to think everyone would be ecstatic about that.

I'd even be ok if the Cards took Lendale at 10, I just don't want them to "reach" for him, when they could get more.

Either way, bring on Glendale Lendale.
 

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HooverDam said:
I got ripped for this idea in another thread, but if Lendale comes out and is projected to go in the low or middle part of the first down, I say trade down.

If we can work a trade that would get us a serviceable OLineman, and then be able to pick up Lendale in the 1st round, I have to think everyone would be ecstatic about that.

I'd even be ok if the Cards took Lendale at 10, I just don't want them to "reach" for him, when they could get more.

Either way, bring on Glendale Lendale.
Trading down scares the hell out of me if we're talking about a player like White that could go anywhere from 10-25 (pulling these positions out of the arse). I'd hate to trade to say, 16 and have him go at 15.

If White is the guy they want in the first, by all means they should draft him at 10, IMO. I think Bush is the only "slam dunk" RB to get picked before him because the other two that might (Williams and Maroney) are different kinds of backs so it just depends on what kind of flavor a team might be looking for.
 

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Trading down scares the hell out of me if we're talking about a player like White that could go anywhere from 10-25 (pulling these positions out of the arse). I'd hate to trade to say, 16 and have him go at 15.

I agree. You better get great compensation and have a really good backup plan, if you do trade down.
 

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Does anyone else think of Ron Dayne when they see White play? Dayne was great in college but was horrible with the Giants. He's doing better now that he has a line to run behind in Denver, but I worry about this happening to us if we pick Lendale.

Please o please let's just fix the damn line!!
 

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HooverDam said:
I got ripped for this idea in another thread, but if Lendale comes out and is projected to go in the low or middle part of the first down, I say trade down.

If we can work a trade that would get us a serviceable OLineman, and then be able to pick up Lendale in the 1st round, I have to think everyone would be ecstatic about that.

I'd even be ok if the Cards took Lendale at 10, I just don't want them to "reach" for him, when they could get more.

Either way, bring on Glendale Lendale.

I'm starting to like the idea of trading down with Denver for their two first round picks.......at #10 we fall in between the elite and the very good.....with very good lasting throughout the 1st round.
 

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Cardsmasochist said:
Does anyone else think of Ron Dayne when they see White play?
Not me. I think of a slightly bigger Curtis Martin.

Honestly, when we started talking about White a month or so ago, I hadn't taken much note of him. When I did watch him more closely, I expected him to be bigger from the descriptions posted on the board. I think he's more than a power-back--I think he'll probably be a decent feature back.
 
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I'm starting to like the idea of trading down with Denver for their two first round picks.......at #10 we fall in between the elite and the very good.....with very good lasting throughout the 1st round.

Reggie Bush
Matt Leinart
Vince Young (if he comes out)
LenDale White
DeAngelo Williams
Ferguson
AJ Hawk
Mario Williams
Jimmy Williams
Jay Cutler (I've seen him play 3 times)

Those are all pretty good players...and if we stand pat at 10 we guarantee ourselves one of them.
 

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Pariah said:
Not me. I think of a slightly bigger Curtis Martin.

Honestly, when we started talking about White a month or so ago, I hadn't taken much not of him. When I did watch him more closely, I expected him to be bigger from the descriptions posted on the board. I think he's more than a power-back--I think he'll probably be a decent feature back.

He led USC in rushing the 2 years prior to this one. Bush had a phenomenal offseason workout session(partly with LT) and White was cracking the books (do you have any idea how hard that is to write with a straight face for a UCLA fan?) So Carroll made a point of naming Bush the starter early on.

People forget after the Hawaii game there were reports White was furious with Carroll because he didn't get the ball enough and was even out on some goalline situations. Carroll basically told him tough beans Reggie is the starter now.

Which is why it's so intriguing now that Carroll is trying desperately to convince Lendale to come back and be the feature back.

Of course if he doesn't, USC has Herschel Dennis coming back next year who started ahead of both guys 2 years ago before getting suspended and they redshirted some hotshot RB this year who is supposed to be really good. But obviously if White stays, he's the man.

He's not just a big back he's got great feet and he's never really been in great shape at USC, he's the type of kid who if he gets in better shape will be even faster. He never needed to be in great shape at USC but I assume NFL teams will expect that of him.
 

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john h said:
A good debate question is who would you rather have DeAngelo Williams or Lendale White? Different type of players. One is a power guy from a big school. The other more of a shifty runner from a smaller conference. For the Cards needs I would take White due to our lousy performance in the red zone. We already have the smaller shifty back in JJ.

ALL HAIL LENDALE!!!!:notworthy :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
 

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"..And in this corner.."

Then as far as Pittsburgh having the best drafting program, what happened with Ol-loser Ross?
#1]Is there another QB out there worth the #10 pick?

#2]Why would we waste any of our picks on an Olineman when we can get an experienced one or three in FA..?

#3]What #'s of 1st rounders does Denver possess, and do other teams possess multiple 1st rd picks?

#4]What does it taketo get you people toopen your little "pods of Knowledge"
to newer posters, in answering and in debating free exchange of ideas so that I and similar[ie. less than 500+ posts ]posters can share in this energetic interchange, not be taken as smartasses, not be suspended without pay for three+- days for standing up for yourself and calling a stuck-up feminist just that, generally being treated as a Pariah, to a point.. The administrators of this sight notwithstanding[Menotknowing a poster from an administrator].. Ah well, at least I can read the sometimes comedic, witty, intercourse..
 

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