About those false starts

[Chris_Sanders]

Former NFL VP of Officiating and current rules analyst on FOX, Mike Pereira, on Doug and Wolf this morning:

"I didn't see what Cheffers said he (Murray) was doing."

I don't think we'll see this called during the season. "Officials are just making a point of emphasis in the preseason"

On whether clapping is allowed, "as long as its rhythmic, clapping is allowed... it's like lifting the leg".

And, what was included in my article yesterday, another former NFL VP of Officiating, Dean Blandino, tweeted: "There is no prohibition against clapping. You just can't do anything abrupt to try and draw the defense offside. The action has to be smooth and deliberate. They are calling it very tight on him (Murray). I didn't think what he was doing was abrupt.



So there we have it.

 

[Ronin]

As long as the confusion doesn’t linger into the season.

 

[splitsecond]

This is all on Gruden being an absolute douchebag and complaining to the league and getting in Jeffers ear. The piece of the Janeis Winston interview they played on the show after this with Gruden absolutely whining like a little bitch about the snap clap is a telltale sign.

Related: Lamarcus Joyner didn’t come up with “pretty boy football” that absolutely came from Gruden’s little insecure mouth. I absolutely cannot stand that hack.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Yeah watching the plays back where they called the false starts I just can't see where Kyler was abrupt or jerking his head to simulate a start as the Ref claimed he was. He actually was very smooth with his clap and his body was motionless minus the clap part.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Yeah watching the plays back where they called the false starts I just can't see where Kyler was abrupt or jerking his head to simulate a start as the Ref claimed he was. He actually was very smooth with his clap and his body was motionless minus the clap part.

Yep I have watched the replay a few times. The officials were just hyper aggressive against the Cardinals early. No idea why

 

[blindseyed]

Still don't know how that clap is gonna work in Seattle with all that noise

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Still don't know how that clap is gonna work in Seattle with all that noise

Stadiums are loud in college and it works

 

[MadCardDisease]

Still don't know how that clap is gonna work in Seattle with all that noise

It's actually the main reason for using the clap cadence. The clap can still be heard through the loudest crowd noise.

https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/college/university-of-washington/article36500640.html

The reason for doing it this way, Petersen said, is simple: Everyone on offense can hear it, regardless of how loud the stadium might be.

Petersen first noticed this when he was coaching at Boise State and a visiting opponent used a clap cadence instead of a silent or verbal count.

The sound cut through the din of a noisy, sellout crowd, loud enough for Petersen to hear it on the sideline.

“We did different snap counts,” Petersen said. “We’ve been through the gamut. And so they kind of all work, so (whatever) what you think works best for you. And playing in some loud stadiums, it’s amazing — they can get really loud, and guys can still usually hear that clap.”

 

[WisconsinCard]

Watch Russell Wilson stomp his foot and reach towards the center. Now that's a false start and no call

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

This is all on Gruden being an absolute douchebag and complaining to the league and getting in Jeffers ear. The piece of the Janeis Winston interview they played on the show after this with Gruden absolutely whining like a little bitch about the snap clap is a telltale sign.

Related: Lamarcus Joyner didn’t come up with “pretty boy football” that absolutely came from Gruden’s little insecure mouth. I absolutely cannot stand that hack.

Cant stand Gruden. That guy is a puss and a dick at the same time.

 

[blindseyed]

Stadiums are loud in college and it works

Until it doesn't lol

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Until it doesn't lol

See MCD's response.

These things exist for a reason.

 

[Ronin]

Josh Weinfuss (@joshweinfuss)
8/20/19, 11:22 AM
Kliff Kingsbury on how ref Walt Anderson, the former Big 12 coordinator of officials from 2006-2018 who he's worked with and who'll officiate Saturday's game, can be a resource in figuring out Kyler Murray's clap snap: "I'm interested in our pregame conversation."

 

[splitsecond]

Yep I have watched the replay a few times. The officials were just hyper aggressive against the Cardinals early. No idea why

The answer is Gruden. Cry ass baby Gruden.

 

[splitsecond]

Watch Russell Wilson stomp his foot and reach towards the center. Now that's a false start and no call

That’s more or less what they had to stop Peyton Manning from doing, although Manning’s was beyond dramatic.

 

[The Kraken]

Someone has yet to explain to me how in college (I realize the rules are different) the entire line, receivers, and backfield can settle and set in their stance and the uniformly come up and look at the sideline for the play adjustment and reset...and if a defender makes contact he is encroaching

 

[Krangodnzr]

Cant stand Gruden. That guy is a puss and a dick at the same time.

Favorite line ever!

 

[Krangodnzr]

Cant stand Gruden. That guy is a puss and a dick at the same time.

The Raiders signed him to a TEN YEAR, 100 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT.

I hope he fails miserably.

 

[Ronin]

The Raiders signed him to a TEN YEAR, 100 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT.

I hope he fails miserably.

And he is next door neighbors with Derek Carr.
#Awkward

 

[slanidrac16]

Clap thing is ridiculous. How many times have we seen qb’s clapping like crazy as the game clock winds down?

 

[Russ Smith]

Former NFL VP of Officiating and current rules analyst on FOX, Mike Pereira, on Doug and Wolf this morning:

"I didn't see what Cheffers said he (Murray) was doing."

I don't think we'll see this called during the season. "Officials are just making a point of emphasis in the preseason"

On whether clapping is allowed, "as long as its rhythmic, clapping is allowed... it's like lifting the leg".

And, what was included in my article yesterday, another former NFL VP of Officiating, Dean Blandino, tweeted: "There is no prohibition against clapping. You just can't do anything abrupt to try and draw the defense offside. The action has to be smooth and deliberate. They are calling it very tight on him (Murray). I didn't think what he was doing was abrupt.



So there we have it.

That's sort of what I was expecting you could see KK arguing with the ref on the sideline and making the motion with his hands clearly saying this is what he's doing what's wrong with that. It seemed to be really bugging Kyler. So I hope they clear it up before the games are real.

 

[AZCB34]

Clap thing is ridiculous. How many times have we seen qb’s clapping like crazy as the game clock winds down?

Amen. Keep the clap in college...and the clapping to start the play too.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Clap thing is ridiculous. How many times have we seen qb’s clapping like crazy as the game clock winds down?

I said the same thing in the game thread.