Adrian Wilson Situation - What happens if ADub is not the GM?

[Arz101]

ADub is a beloved Cardinal for all the right reasons.

Bidwill likes ADub.

If ADub is not the GM, will ADub stay with organization?

Will Bidwill insist on keeping ADub in a senior role in GM interviews with other candidates?

If a new outside GM is hired and was asked to keep ADub, Will this cause a parallel power structure in front office with ADub having the ear of owner (aka Keim) ?

 

[JeffGollin]

All things should warrant due consideration, but- let’s not overthink this too much and wind up making a low-risk but mediocre decision on the future of our FB team

 

[CardsFan88]

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In essence.

 

[az jam]

GM will make decision on his staff. Remember that the Cards dropped AW when he was still a player. It is a business.

 

[slanidrac16]

He needs some seasoning under a real GM. He will be better off staying here as an understudy.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I guess no one is pounding down our door to interview him or Quentin Harris for a position.

 

[The6]

ADub is a beloved Cardinal for all the right reasons.

Bidwill likes ADub.

If ADub is not the GM, will ADub stay with organization?

Will Bidwill insist on keeping ADub in a senior role in GM interviews with other candidates?

If a new outside GM is hired and was asked to keep ADub, Will this cause a parallel power structure in front office with ADub having the ear of owner (aka Keim) ?

Who cares? Cards need to build a winner. It shouldn't be about feelings.

Get some smart people in who know how to run a football program. Period

 

[LA Redbird]

It would be a very Bidwill thing to do to make a decision based on this. Love AW. Watched his entire career. Complete beast. And I presume there are a million positive attributes he could bring to the role. But if we need a million and one attributes, well.....

 

[THESMEL]

Love to see Rick Smith spend some years with a dub first.

 

[BritCard]

Gone.

Honestly think he's more of a mascot than a serious FO member. Mike keeps him round like a totem.

 

[AZfaninMN]

I guess no one is pounding down our door to interview him or Quentin Harris for a position.

Only the titans and cardinals have GM vacancies right now. Both Harris and AW interviewed for the giants last season and Harris interviewed with the titans this season.

 

[Harry]

Someone will Give him a shot. I just think the Cards need a voice with no vested interest.

 

[football karma]

i think the best thing for AW's GM prospects would be to work for another org for a couple years

nobody is clamoring right now to import "the Cardinal way"

 

[Krangodnzr]

The problem that I (and others) see with hiring either Harris or Wilson is that they may have been tainted by Keim. The Cardinals need a fresh voice in the organization. I want them to bring in someone who will build the team from the inside out .

 

[QuebecCard]

Someone will Give him a shot. I just think the Cards need a voice with no vested interest.

Vested interest in what?

AW and Harris were never the FINAL words on the roster or choice of coaches.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Vested interest in what?

AW and Harris were never the FINAL words on the roster or choice of coaches.

Yeah, I've made the point that just because they've worked under Keim, doesn't mean they shared his same strategies and thought. They really didn't have a voice.

 

[QuebecCard]

The problem that I (and others) see with hiring either Harris or Wilson is that they may have been tainted by Keim. The Cardinals need a fresh voice in the organization. I want them to bring in someone who will build the team from the inside out .

Well, there's another way to look at it.

Harris & Wilson have an up close and personal look at how not to do things.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Well, there's another way to look at it.

Harris & Wilson have an up close and personal look at how not to do things.

Great. That still means they’ve never learned how to do things right. Just because you see mistakes doesn’t mean you know how to correct them and they’ve gotten zero tutelage to do so working for this wretched FO.

Ask yourself this… if you were another team’s fans, would you want Steve Keim’s underlings, who have never been part of a functional FO, running your team?

I sure as hell wouldn’t.

 

[Sparky16]

ADub is a beloved Cardinal for all the right reasons.

Bidwill likes ADub.

If ADub is not the GM, will ADub stay with organization?

Will Bidwill insist on keeping ADub in a senior role in GM interviews with other candidates?

If a new outside GM is hired and was asked to keep ADub, Will this cause a parallel power structure in front office with ADub having the ear of owner (aka Keim) ?

who cares? the real question is what happens if he is... probably declining ticket sales. Mikey can't go cheap on this one

 

[Harry]

Vested interest in what?

AW and Harris were never the FINAL words on the roster or choice of coaches.

You can‘t be in those slots without having personal relationships with some of the players. Just human nature.

 

[lobo]

Well, there's another way to look at it.

Harris & Wilson have an up close and personal look at how not to do things.

.....and we both know that does not translate in knowing how to do things, does it? this is a situation where the
swamp has to be emptied, he may be a wonderful fellow but a person who has a track record as an ass't for x
years sounds more appealing to me.

 

[QuebecCard]

Great. That still means they’ve never learned how to do things right. Just because you see mistakes doesn’t mean you know how to correct them and they’ve gotten zero tutelage to do so working for this wretched FO.

Ask yourself this… if you were another team’s fans, would you want Steve Keim’s underlings, who have never been part of a functional FO, running your team?

I sure as hell wouldn’t.

Well, just maybe, Harris and AW are a bit more observant and capable of tracing their own paths than you are prepared to concede at this point. Who knows?

 

[QuebecCard]

.....and we both know that does not translate in knowing how to do things, does it? this is a situation where the
swamp has to be emptied, he may be a wonderful fellow but a person who has a track record as an ass't for x
years sounds more appealing to me.

No, I don't know that this is a given because it isn't.

 

[lobo]

Great. That still means they’ve never learned how to do things right. Just because you see mistakes doesn’t mean you know how to correct them and they’ve gotten zero tutelage to do so working for this wretched FO.

Ask yourself this… if you were another team’s fans, would you want Steve Keim’s underlings, who have never been part of a functional FO, running your team?

I sure as hell wouldn’t.

Amen...we both said the same thing.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah, I've made the point that just because they've worked under Keim, doesn't mean they shared his same strategies and thought. They really didn't have a voice.

But it does mean they haven’t had any other influence, mentoring or experience in a functioning organization. And you want to give them the top reins in your organization? That’s insane.