After rewatching the game

[Crazy Canuck]

Derek Anderson played a decent game. The second string's are always the most difficult to play against because there is talent there, but cohesiveness is generally lacking.

As far as the touch passes. Touch passes are meant to be used for players that don't catch a ton of balls (backs and some tight ends), and to place the ball over defenders. When it come to throwing balls to wide receivers who have position in front of defenders, a ball really can't be thrown too hard. It is the receivers job to catch the ball and the quicker it gets there, the faster he can secure it in traffic. Andre Roberts flat missed that ball, probably because he is a smaller receiver with smaller hands, and hasn't had a QB throw lasers like this to him in his entire career. This was not in any way on Anderson.

Well, I guess that explains why DD has never had a completion rate over 57% since he entered College. It's those damn wideouts!

 

[Buckybird]

Well, I guess that explains why DD has never had a completion rate over 57% since he entered College. It's those damn wideouts!

Maybe we could get the coaches to replace all the #'s on the WR's in camp with an X on their jerseys.

 

[earthsci]

I think that Shane is spot on. DA is a decent guy to have as a backup. IMO if anyone on the roster, not named Matt Leinart, is going to be starting in the future it will be Skelton.

 

[overseascardfan]

And as Wolfly said, the drops were in part due to the ball being thrown to hard, needed more touch

Yeah but thrown hard or not, if it hits your hands it's on you. Larry and all the other top guys make those catches. Of course DA does need to take some velocity off, but look at guys like Farve and Elway who would missle that ball to receivers, they threw a lot of INT's in their careers as well.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Yeah but thrown hard or not, if it hits your hands it's on you. Larry and all the other top guys make those catches. Of course DA does need to take some velocity off, but look at guys like Farve and Elway who would missle that ball to receivers, they threw a lot of INT's in their careers as well.

Well, a lot of interceptions is certainly one thing DA has in common with Favre and Elway.

 

[Chopper0080]

Well, I guess that explains why DD has never had a completion rate over 57% since he entered College. It's those damn wideouts!

I don't recall ever claiming that Anderson was an accurate QB, I did say and maintain that the pick to Roberts was in no way his fault. When a receiver has front position on a defender past 5 yards down the field, you put as much mustard as you can on the ball and make sure that it is in his catching radius. Fact. Derek Anderson did this, Andre Roberts showed the same skillet hands that he showed the rest of the evening, and the play resulted in a pick.

 

[Chopper0080]

Well, a lot of interceptions is certainly one thing DA has in common with Favre and Elway.

Can we please refrain from putting Derek Anderson in any conversation with Elway and Favre in relation to stats, good or bad. We can compare arm strength and the zip on their passes all day, but their levels of production are night and day.

 

[CardLogic]

After watching him so far I would be comfy with him as the back up.

Ok, and let's hope that is all he ever gets to be as a Cardinalll!!!

I think that Shane is spot on. DA is a decent guy to have as a backup. IMO if anyone on the roster, not named Matt Leinart, is going to be starting in the future it will be Skelton.

 

[Garthshort]

Two very good blocks by WR's. One by Roberts on Smith's TD run, and one by Williams, on the pass for a TD to Wright. Text book.

 

[JeffGollin]

It is what it is.

Anderson can be forgiven for "resembling Favre", and his receivers can be forgiven for having problems hanging onto Anderson's rocket-balls.

But unless Anderson learns to throw a more catchable ball and his receivers do a better job of catching Anderson's throws, our passing offense is going to look sucky when he's in there.

It seems to me that we looked down the throat of the lion and what we saw wasn't pretty. The challenge for Anderson & Cardinal receivers will be to fix the problem. Whether or not this can get done or does get done is a significant unknown that we have to hope will work out positively.

Bottom line (both with Leinart and Anderson) - We've got to see more of both of them to really know what we've got or don't have.

(Note - A key reason why the Favre/Elway comparisons aren't valid is that both of those guys were effective outside the pocket and could throw on the run. Right now, this aspect of play is an "issue" for Anderson).

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Can we please refrain from putting Derek Anderson in any conversation with Elway and Favre in relation to stats, good or bad. We can compare arm strength and the zip on their passes all day, but their levels of production are night and day.

This would fall under "advice to oneself". You're the one who referenced the many interceptions by both Favre and Elway.

 

[Catfish]

Like I said. I re-watched the game and he really wasn't that bad considering.

We also tend to give QB's a pass for having to learn whole new systems. He has had to and isn't going to look as comfortable in a new system with a bunch of plays that he hasen't had the luxury of knowing for 4 years.

Im not saying start the guy or that he will be the DA of 2007. But after looking at the tape again I wasn't as down on him as I was before.

Velocity should never be an issue IMO. If its in the bread basket you catch it pure and simple. Many a times I have seen Favre just gun it in there when it isnt necessary. His WR's have outright told you that you need to be ready to catch a bullet at all times.

I would tend to go more with what you are saying here Shane. In his post game interview, Anderson said how uptight going into the game. I believe that as we go on, he will feel more comfortable with his knowlege of the playbook, and thusly will be more confident with his reads and throws. As for the speed, as he gains accurracy, receivers will either learn to catch his ball, or wear the little crosses on their bodies like Elway's receivers did until they learned to get their hands out away from their bodies and snatch the ball before it hit them. As of right now, I don't feel uncomfortable with any of our QB's-----but I wish I felt the same about our top O-line, and our top D-line and OLB's. We got absolutely no push with them at all last night against the passing game of the Texans, and our O-line was porous and somewhat feeble.

 

[THESMEL]

I rewatched it and Matt is still our starter and improving. Deuce is the best guard we have by morte than a little. DD is a unsportsmanlike thug again after the game on the additional coverage. CC was talking to Ex Card Smith huggingf and congratulating and DD set just out of the conversation studying Antonio, DD walked up as Smith was distracted took his Texan hat off his head and threw it on the ground and stopped and smeared it into the dirt while DD walked away ignoring everybody. some people get off on acting like a thug, I think it belittles DD and the Cards, CC's face never looked so impressed afterwards, yea yeaa this is a leader of Men!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

THESMEL: If you pay attention to DD, he and Smith are best friends and that is why he did it; if they had not been I can guarantee that would've led to a fight...

 

[azdad1978]

I rewatched it and Matt is still our starter and improving. Deuce is the best guard we have by morte than a little. DD is a unsportsmanlike thug again after the game on the additional coverage. CC was talking to Ex Card Smith huggingf and congratulating and DD set just out of the conversation studying Antonio, DD walked up as Smith was distracted took his Texan hat off his head and threw it on the ground and stopped and smeared it into the dirt while DD walked away ignoring everybody. some people get off on acting like a thug, I think it belittles DD and the Cards, CC's face never looked so impressed afterwards, yea yeaa this is a leader of Men!

I hope you know DD and Smith are best friends and was drafted the same year. You're blowing things out of proportions. Its like playfully smacking your little brother but no one else can do that to him.

 

[Nash2Amare]

Game just started (11pm AZ) on NFL Network.

 

[Duckjake]

Hey did nobody notice that the Cards scored on a SCREEN Pass!

Also how about my boy Marshay Green at CB playing press coverage,, and making a fine tackle as a gunner on punt coverage?

 

[187]

I rewatched it and Matt is still our starter and improving. Deuce is the best guard we have by morte than a little. DD is a unsportsmanlike thug again after the game on the additional coverage. CC was talking to Ex Card Smith huggingf and congratulating and DD set just out of the conversation studying Antonio, DD walked up as Smith was distracted took his Texan hat off his head and threw it on the ground and stopped and smeared it into the dirt while DD walked away ignoring everybody. some people get off on acting like a thug, I think it belittles DD and the Cards, CC's face never looked so impressed afterwards, yea yeaa this is a leader of Men!

hahaha...Dockett and Smith are very, very good friends. Nice try though. He wasn't acting like a thug, he was just screwing with his friend.

 

[Garthshort]

After watching tape of the game, twice, I can see why coaches like DA. He has a strong arm that can make all the passes required of an NFL QB (stating the obvious). Will he EVER develop touch and accuracy? Probably not, but we can hope.

As for Skelton, like most everyone, I was impressed with his poise and how well he moved around. His arm is not DA strong, but still pretty strong, and he has good touch on his throws. Coming from a low level program, he will take time to develop, but does seem to have the basics that teams look for. I doubt if he'll have back-to-back games like that, but he'll keep Card fans awake in the fourth quarter, next week, no matter what the score. JMO.

 

[Chopper0080]

This would fall under "advice to oneself". You're the one who referenced the many interceptions by both Favre and Elway.

I think you have me mistaken with another poster.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

Two very good blocks by WR's. One by Roberts on Smith's TD run, and one by Williams, on the pass for a TD to Wright. Text book.

Let's not give up on Robert's just yet....concrete hands are concrete hands....college or pro....he didn't have them in college.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I rewatched it and Matt is still our starter and improving. Deuce is the best guard we have by morte than a little. DD is a unsportsmanlike thug again after the game on the additional coverage. CC was talking to Ex Card Smith huggingf and congratulating and DD set just out of the conversation studying Antonio, DD walked up as Smith was distracted took his Texan hat off his head and threw it on the ground and stopped and smeared it into the dirt while DD walked away ignoring everybody. some people get off on acting like a thug, I think it belittles DD and the Cards, CC's face never looked so impressed afterwards, yea yeaa this is a leader of Men!

If you had stayed through the whole game, you would have seen that Dockett and Smith were the last guys to leave the field and were standing there laughing and having a good time.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

If you had stayed through the whole game, you would have seen that Dockett and Smith were the last guys to leave the field and were standing there laughing and having a good time.

Thesmel has this thing about DD, and man-love for Lutui that he parades almost every day on the Cards main message board.

 

[Russ Smith]

Let's not give up on Robert's just yet....concrete hands are concrete hands....college or pro....he didn't have them in college.

I'm watching the replay on NFL net right now. I will give Roberts this, the first pick the LB tipped it before it got to Roberts so not his fault. The 2nd pick was his fault. The drop at the end of the half the ball was thrown behind him he had to reach back and twist, catchable but not a good throw the momentum took Roberts past the throw.

The near pick it looked like Roberts and Dray nearly collided, right after the play Anderson said something to Roberts so I assume he ran the pattern wrong. Next play he again has the ball behind him, looks like a catch but then Nolan blasts him and he drops it. So far there's really one clear drop(the pick), the rest were not good throws, catchable but not outright drops.

He definitely looks nervous and confused out there at times, but he doesn't look as bad to me today as he did live.

As others said, Anderson just throws the ball too hard, several of his underneath throws were thrown on a rope, no touch at all.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm watching the replay on NFL net right now. I will give Roberts this, the first pick the LB tipped it before it got to Roberts so not his fault. The 2nd pick was his fault. The drop at the end of the half the ball was thrown behind him he had to reach back and twist, catchable but not a good throw the momentum took Roberts past the throw.

The near pick it looked like Roberts and Dray nearly collided, right after the play Anderson said something to Roberts so I assume he ran the pattern wrong. Next play he again has the ball behind him, looks like a catch but then Nolan blasts him and he drops it. So far there's really one clear drop(the pick), the rest were not good throws, catchable but not outright drops.

He definitely looks nervous and confused out there at times, but he doesn't look as bad to me today as he did live.

As others said, Anderson just throws the ball too hard, several of his underneath throws were thrown on a rope, no touch at all.