Agent: "Garnett not interested in becoming a Celtic"

[F-Dog]

a) KG's already got a house there and is friends with Kobe b) they have the most talented player in basketball... c) even with a slew of injuries, the Lakers still managed to win 42 games in the West as opposed to the Celts who couldn't even sniff the playoffs in the East... d) Phil Jackson e) they're the Lakers - stuff just always seems to work out for them darnit!

On the other hand, Kobe himself would prefer to play in Phoenix.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

My feeling is this helps a three way get done with Boston now. I feel like that was the initial conversation and the Ainge said "Wait - what if i can get KG over here?". Now that he knows that is not an option he will go back to looking to improve his team via trade: enter Shawn Marion.

I say the Wolves end up getting ATL O8 pick, # 5 Pick, Ratliff, Thomas, Gomes and Barbosa.

That is quite a bit to rebuild with right there and McHale would be insane not to rebuild around two good young players, two lottery picks and two expiring contracts. What more is he going to get?

Then the C's get Marion to help Pierce and Jefferson and easily making them a playoff team. We could throw in a pick for them too to make it more palatable.

Of course the Suns get something pretty good too

 

[AsUdUdE]

A trade of Bynam, Odom and the #19 pick for KG,
If L.A. got KG, I think it is a VERY likely scernio Hill signs there too for the minimum (just a humch though) would leave the Lakers with a rotation of

PG: Farmar/Parker
SG: Kobe/Vujacic
SF: Hill/Radmonivic/Walton
PF: Garnett/Cook
C: Kwame/Turiaf


The starting 5 is scary because Vlad, Walton, Brown, Farmar, are all good role players, plus you have 2 superstars, both are capable of carrying entire teams by themselves... both are in their primes...

I honestly think this team becomes right there in the top tier in the west with Dallas, S.A., Phoenix.. IMO

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't know, I just know KG is friends with Nash as well if that matters any and probably with Amare as well.

The Wolves would have less interest in Odom than Marion in my opinion.

The Lakers don't have the quality of picks to trade that Phoenix has, and even if they offered Odom plus Bynum I would think that Marion and Barbosa is better value.

Also Kevin Garnett isn't the type of player that craves the limelight of LA or the Lakers. Never heard anything about him having an ego or anything, he is probably happy to not be in a market like LA. That must not be true, but I think it isn't unlikely.

Especially with the whole Kobe drama going on, the Lakers don't look like a desriable destination for anyone right now.

i don't disagree necessarily with anything above, but I do know that KG has a house in LA and is friends with Kobe. As far as the value of Odom/Bynum/#19 pick versus Marion/Barbs/TBD pick next year in a "raw" draft, well, I'm really not sure I can say with distinction, which deal is better. they're both pretty close. I guess the tipping point would be how Minny feels about Bynum.

it does help though that McHale is an idiot who probably still holds grudges against the Lakers.

 

[Rab]

My feeling is this helps a three way get done with Boston now. I feel like that was the initial conversation and the Ainge said "Wait - what if i can get KG over here?". Now that he knows that is not an option he will go back to looking to improve his team via trade: enter Shawn Marion.

I say the Wolves end up getting ATL O8 pick, # 5 Pick, Ratliff, Thomas, Gomes and Barbosa.

That is quite a bit to rebuild with right there and McHale would be insane not to rebuild around two good young players, two lottery picks and two expiring contracts. What more is he going to get?

Then the C's get Marion to help Pierce and Jefferson and easily making them a playoff team. We could throw in a pick for them too to make it more palatable.

Of course the Suns get something pretty good too

I don't care what the hell the other teams get as long as Amare ain't going with them. I just want KG!!!

PLEASE STEVE KERR!!!!

 

[SunsTzu]

Assuming Odom and Marion are a wash it really depends on what the Wolves think of Bynum and whatever else they could muster(there mid 1st pick this year?). Personally I think the Suns could put a better deal together if they so choose.

 

[Gaddabout]

I know that Bryant is a better talent than Pierce, but not by a huge amount ...

Wow. Pierce = very good offensive player. Bryant = best end-to-end player in the world.

The Lakers would not be substantially better because, as you said, the other parts are broken, but they would be better than Kobe + Odom + all the others. This would also assuage Kobe's ego and allow the Lakers to acquire more talent in the coming years to make a better run in two or three seasons. I see KG being KG for at least another four years, and Kobe's still young, so ... that would be a fearsome duo.

I just don't know why Minny would want anything the Lakers have to offer. I look at Odom as having peaked -- he is what he is -- and Bynum worth a second-round pick at this point. In 5 years Bynum may be a 10/10 guy and still not a great shot blocker for his size. Is that worth what you're giving up?

 

[fordronken]

Assuming Odom and Marion are a wash

That's a hell of an assumption.

I really don't see the Suns being willing to send Barbosa AND the ATL pick.

 

[azirish]

Wow. Pierce = very good offensive player. Bryant = best end-to-end player in the world.

The Lakers would not be substantially better because, as you said, the other parts are broken, but they would be better than Kobe + Odom + all the others. This would also assuage Kobe's ego and allow the Lakers to acquire more talent in the coming years to make a better run in two or three seasons. I see KG being KG for at least another four years, and Kobe's still young, so ... that would be a fearsome duo.

I just don't know why Minny would want anything the Lakers have to offer. I look at Odom as having peaked -- he is what he is -- and Bynum worth a second-round pick at this point. In 5 years Bynum may be a 10/10 guy and still not a great shot blocker for his size. Is that worth what you're giving up?

Bynum is a total wild card. He's shown just enough flashes to get people interested and so little consistency that K Brown starts ahead of him.

 

[Mainstreet]

This sounds like someone calling a horse race. I sure don't want the Lakers to get KG.

 

[The Commish]

C'mon Kerr make it happen. Nash-Amare-Garnett : 2008 Champs.By the way I love being able to check on this from the beach - but it has consumed my entire vacation. Make it happen already!

 

[Griffin]

I don't know, I just know KG is friends with Nash as well if that matters any and probably with Amare as well.

Certainly Amare and KG were not friends during Amare's rookie season. There were some things said by both players that made that pretty clear. Not sure if anything has changed since then.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I see a marion/diaw/24 trade before a marion/barbosa/atl trade

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I just don't know why Minny would want anything the Lakers have to offer. I look at Odom as having peaked and has a pretty badly injured shoulder -- he is what he is -- and Bynum worth a second-round pick at this point. In 5 years Bynum may be a 10/10 guy and still not a great shot blocker for his size. Is that worth what you're giving up?

added a bit for you.

 

[Cheesebeef]

How is KG-Bryant-trash any better than KG-Pierce-trash? I know that Bryant is a better talent than Pierce, but not by a huge amount and the supporting cast in LA would arguably be weaker than in BOS....

i totally disagree with the above. Bryant is MILES ahead of Pierce, Walton is a decent player and the Lakers, with KG and Kobe would be a pretty hot FA destination for the MLE where they could get someone to round out the club.

Farmar
Kobe
Walton
KG
Kwame

with Vlad and maybe Grant Hill off the bench? That's a hell of a lot better than the Boston horrificness.

 

[joshstmarie]

it would take alot more than odom/bynum/brown to match KGs salary no?

 

[SunsTzu]

That's a hell of an assumption.

I really don't see the Suns being willing to send Barbosa AND the ATL pick.

How is it a hell of an assumption? If anything I think all things considered Marion would hold more value I was just trying to compare the packages of young talent each could supply.

 

[Cheesebeef]

and I'll say it again, GD the freaking lottery. Marion, KT and the Hawks pick this year would have gotten this deal done - period.

seriously, that week from when the suspensions came down to when we missed out on the pick could be the worst week in Suns history if this deal doesn't go down and we never win a title with this core.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

it would take alot more than odom/bynum/brown to match KGs salary no?

LA is way too stubborn to trade odom bynum AND brown, but their salaires are 12/2/8 I believe, so it matches up

 

[azirish]

it would take alot more than odom/bynum/brown to match KGs salary no?

Real GM Trade Checks says it works, but the "Talent Checker" doesn't.

 

[B-Dogg]

IMO, what this statement really does is to open up the three way trade between Min, Bos, and Phx. Boston can now obtain Marion and explain to their fan base Garnett was not interested in coming here but we were able to obtain an all star caliber player in Marion while keeping our core together, esp Jefferson. It allows Min to obtain a ton of pics, future cap relief, and a top pick in next years draft as they will suck this year, and Mchale is most likely on his way out so he can take the fall, and the next GM will be stocked with Cap room and draft picks. The Suns get the piece they need to be a favorite for an NBA championship of the next three years... Everybody wins in this deal in my opinion. Boston can win the East, the Suns are the favorites, and Minnesota has bright future...

 

[Cheesebeef]

it would take alot more than odom/bynum/brown to match KGs salary no?

odom's at 13.5, and Brown's at 8 - so no.

 

[fordronken]

How is it a hell of an assumption? If anything I think all things considered Marion would hold more value I was just trying to compare the packages of young talent each could supply.

I just don't think Odom is in the same league as Marion, and I would hope that McHale sees it the same way. My point was, it was a lot to assume. If you just wanted to compare the younger talent that's fine, but calling the discrepancy between Marion and Odom an assumption was a bit much.

 

[AsUdUdE]

they wouldn't include Brown, but a resigned Luke Walton to about 3-4 million a year would work

Odom, Bynum, Walton, #19, 2008 unprotected 1st
For
Garnett

I still don't think KG for Marion + Barbosa is worth it, because you know they will demand our picks too... and thats way too much IMO....

 

[slinslin]

Yeah I mean even if Odom was as good as Marion , you can't overlook past baggage of Odom and the fact that he is consitently injured and banged up, did you see how he ended this season? He was all wrapped up in ice (shoulders, arms, legs, knees, everything)...