Amare missed practice because of knee.

[Treesquid PhD]

in my professional opinion, Amare's knees are done, Amare should be immediately shot and shipped to France as horse meat.

 

[green machine]

in my professional opinion, Amare's knees are done, Amare should be immediately shot and shipped to France as horse meat.

 

[Mainstreet]

in my professional opinion, Amare's knees are done, Amare should be immediately shot and shipped to France as horse meat.

Please. Please. Let's give Amare one more chance.

Seriously, I just wish this whole injury speculation concerning Amare would just end. It is what it is. I'm just hoping most everyone is over-reacting. I mean, the fans did know there would be some bumps in the road in his come back.

 

[pokerface]

Drink up boys. Its going to take gallons of extra sweet Suns koolaid to wash down this one. I cant wait to see the spin job they put on this.


So Amare what percentage are you today??

 

[Espo]

Drink up boys. Its going to take gallons of extra sweet Suns koolaid to wash down this one. I cant wait to see the spin job they put on this.


So Amare what percentage are you today??

HaHAHA thats great. I'll take a great big glass of the koolaid. I'm still excited for this season even with this news. I bet they say the stress of flying overseas and practicing right away took its toll on the knees. Thats the spin play i vote they go with.

 

[pokerface]

When Amare is supposed to come back in record time of 4-5 months from microfracture and says on top of it he's ahead of schedule who in thier right mind can say he didn't push his other knee too hard in the process.



HELLO??

 

[hawaiiansun]

Amare...no!!!!!

 

[Folster]

Stoudemire will have microfracture surgery performed on his right knee within a year. They're going to try to get him through this season because of the championship prospects, but he will be out of commission for '07-'08. That might also be why they're going to wait on Diaw, to see how bad Stoudemire's situation looks then.

Sorry for the pessimism, but tell me I'm wrong next October.

I hope you're wrong, but unfortunately I think you're right.

 

[AZ Shocker]

No Amare this season...

 

[Chaplin]

Coro (and Amare) now have said that it was just stiffness.

We have to be careful with sensationalism. It is the Arizona Republic, after all. Coro seems to like the Suns, but their reporters are not known for being kind to the local sports teams.

 

[pokerface]

Coro (and Amare) now have said that it was just stiffness.

We have to be careful with sensationalism. It is the Arizona Republic, after all. Coro seems to like the Suns, but their reporters are not known for being kind to the local sports teams.

Blame the reporters now....they dont like the Suns...


Oh yeah its just a little stiffness....and his other knee was just a little microfracture...its all little stuff. For it being "just stiffness" he went and got another MRI just last week...he was probably just bored that day...maybe he had his eye on some cute xray technician...he really didnt need a MRI huh??


How is Amare going to make it through a 82 game season when he cant even practice without needing a MRI. This is not good at all.....

 

[pokerface]

This is the last one of your ignorant posts I will respond to. Why don't you try jumping 30+ inches thousands of times and see how your knees feel? You don't sustain major cartilage damage by favoring a knee during rehab.

All reports have been that Stoudemire has, at times, been looking "normal" on the court, with all of the explosiveness that puts such an unusual strain on his knees and legs. His left knee is at full strength -- for the time being -- so what else do you expect to gain by waiting?

What's your conspiracy explanation for how Stoudemire hurt his first knee? This is just the same thing, a year later.

I know that you Hardaway fans are still looking to someone to blame for having ruined your golden boy's career. But being able to withstand the pounding is just one more talent for an athlete to have, and not everyone is so blessed, no matter how brilliant they look "when healthy." Hardaway was unlucky in that respect, and it's looking as though Stoudemire is too. Keeping all of the bogeymen out of the trainer's room wouldn't have changed these players' sad destinies.

Ignorant? Hardaway fan??


Hey koolaid drinker....the "reports" you get are tidbits of information they choose to give you. You better learn to read between the lines and look at the bigger picture. You can't say for a fact that his speedy rehab had nothing to do with this. You guys can think he had some "microfracture-lite" kind of surgery but they still drilled holes in his knee...it was still microfracture. And just because Penny said he was rushed back into service before he was ready and I believe him hardly makes me a Penny fan....Personally I hate the guy like no other but I believe what he said. I feel Jerry Colangelo did a pressure job on Amare after he said "my chances for returning are 50/50 for the season". Virtually the next day Jerry "talks" to Amare then he does a 180 and said he wants to play now....only to last 3 games and have to pull the plug. Amare should have listened to his own instincts instead of Jerrys mouth. Maybe some of you better listen to your own instincts as well instead of living on what you're spoonfed. Should Amare have a stiff knee at this late date?? Whats making it stiff? Is he still favoring his leg? Does he even have a good knee?

Elindholm for your prognosis that Amare will probably need another microfracture....thats something I said a year ago. Right now its OBVIOUS.. You're not exactly going out on a limb with that prediction. Try getting some real insight and be provocative without calling people ignorant and Penny fans....weak sauce dude.

 

[boisesuns]

Is there any documentation of Zach Randolphs recovery from "Micro?" He seems to be playing well post micro, but if I remember right, he still needed more time than Amare has had thus far to get back.

I wonder if Amare is treating his "Good" knee like the Microfracture one. After the Microfracture, he couldn't put any weight on it for all that time. During that time, the other knee got all the weight put on it. Then he has the other one scoped and treats it the same way.

I think Diantoni needs to plan on not having Amare in the lineup. There may be nights we don't have him as he tries to come back, and we need to play accordingly. Most of this team has still never played with Amare, and he will change the whole offensive gameplan when he has the ball.

 

[fatosber]

man I hate this situation. It pisses me off to think he will never be the same. But I believe its true. I just hope I'm wrong
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[PetryJr]

Hey koolaid drinker....

Never thought I'd see Eric being called "kool-aid drinker".

 

[Mainstreet]

Hey koolaid drinker....

Pokerface, I hope you have taken into consideration that a person can get drowned bobbing for apples in the koolaid.

Seriously, what about my theory of Amare's tires (knees) wearing out at the same time. I think I could make just as good an argument for this, as the argument that one knee problem begat the other. If you are going to start referring to what the doctors have said, then you will be on our side... because Amare theoretically should have been healthy last season when he tried his comeback (and was cleared by the doctors to do so).

I'm not going any further with my theory. However, why is it so important that you be right and the other posters be wrong? I don't think there is any door prize here for being right. Actually, there is probably a lot of truth in what many of the posters have expressed.

I think it is much like the following quote:

“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

 

[asudevil83]

think about it this way guys:

you have a quite a few people freaking out here over something so small....when in fact, Amare is doing the same exact thing.

we hear "stiffness in the right knee", while amare feels the stiffness in the left knee. we then freak the hell out! he's certainly freaking out 10x more than we are, and therefore he has the complete right to be extremely precautionary.

nobody should be giving him ****, when we are doing the same.


and i'm also sure that Amare's doctors and trainers have gone over and over, and taken all the steps necessary to make sure his other knee does not need micro-fracture. and i'm sure if they hadnt for some ungodly even fathomed the idea, Amare has brought it up.

so, those that are freaking out and giving there "expert opinions" and "dire predictions", there are probably 2 dozen true experts, who have 10x the knowledge as you, who are doing everything possible not to make a mistake with Amare's $70mil knees. i dont think Amare has a crew saying "amare, you knees are fine", and then say to themselves "god, i hope amare's knees are fine".

 

[Chaplin]

think about it this way guys:

you have a quite a few people freaking out here over something so small....when in fact, Amare is doing the same exact thing.

we hear "stiffness in the right knee", while amare feels the stiffness in the left knee. we then freak the hell out! he's certainly freaking out 10x more than we are, and therefore he has the complete right to be extremely precautionary.

nobody should be giving him ****, when we are doing the same.


and i'm also sure that Amare's doctors and trainers have gone over and over, and taken all the steps necessary to make sure his other knee does not need micro-fracture. and i'm sure if they hadnt for some ungodly even fathomed the idea, Amare has brought it up.

so, those that are freaking out and giving there "expert opinions" and "dire predictions", there are probably 2 dozen true experts, who have 10x the knowledge as you, who are doing everything possible not to make a mistake with Amare's $70mil knees. i dont think Amare has a crew saying "amare, you knees are fine", and then say to themselves "god, i hope amare's knees are fine".

Unfortunately, some people are convinced that the organization outright lied to the fans, which is so ridiculous it's not even funny.

 

[elindholm]

Unfortunately, some people are convinced that the organization outright lied to the fans, which is so ridiculous it's not even funny.

Why is it ridiculous?

They lied when they signed Marbury to his huge extension and said that he would be the cornerstone of the team for years.

They lied when they said that Nash was their top free-agent choice two summers ago, when it's documented that they offered the money to Bryant first.

They all but lied last summer when they talked up Stoudemire's role in a potential championship run, when they knew that microfracture was a distinct possibility.

I support the organization and think they usually tell the truth, or at least some version of it, but it is not "ridiculous" to suspect that they might have lied. Again.

 

[carey]

I support the organization and think they usually tell the truth, or at least some version of it, but it is not "ridiculous" to suspect that they might have lied. Again.

Amen brother!

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

I support the organization and think they usually tell the truth, or at least some version of it, but it is not "ridiculous" to suspect that they might have lied. Again.

Lied that they felt a healthy Amare would help this team? Lied that he was 100% (I haven't ever seen that quote, but perhaps someone official said it)? Lied that he would be returning to play this year? So when you say lied again, to what are you referring?

 

[Folster]

Amare never had a knee injury. He had some sort of degenerative condition. What makes some of you so sure that it's only a problem with one knee? How can his "good" knee not have the same problem. I wish we would have traded him this summer for Pau Gasol. I actually thought that it might be smart. I guess hind sight is 20/20 now though.

 

[asudevil83]

Sportitalia is the italian sports channel which will broadcast the game against rome in italy. They are doing a daily report of the suns training camp starting today until the game on friday. Here what they reported from todays afternoon practice.

- The Benetton seasonticket holders and the american military had free entry to the practice and had the opportunity to talk to the players and get some autographs.

- The Suns then had 3 games of 10 minutes each. They splitt up in two groups. In the first two games D'Antoni started Kurt Thomas with Diaw, Nash, Bell and Matrix as what would appear the starting 5 for friday will be. Amare took part in the games. Moved very well and had an amazing alley oop. Amare played so well that Mike started him in the third game along with the other starters in place of Kurt Thomas!!

- Also the reporter stated, that they used 10 second shot clocks in those games. When asked about it Mike commented, that last year the suns didn't run enough for his taste!!!

now this is news from today. i was a little confused about when this all took place, as it pretty much contradicts what's in this thread. and the whole time zone thing pretty much f's with it too.

but i was given some clarification, and Amare sat out practice YESTERDAY. and today he was right back on the courts participating in scrimmages.

so, IMO we are just hearing more of the same crap from the media, which we ourselves completely blow out of proportion. take this for what you will.

 

[asudevil83]

From Coro's blog:

Scrimmage update
10/03/2006 11:59:53

Not to make this a blog all about Amare Stoudemire but it has been a day of great curiosity for the latest Sun with the jersey No. 1 and knee issues.

Stoudemire resurfaced nicely today, practicing this morning, putting in some weightlifting and closing the night with a strong performance in the intrasquad scrimmage.

All is not well because of one good day but it could be if it's the start of a string of them. Stoudemire played at the rim for a pair of dunks and a well-timed block.

"It was great for me to go out there and play because I definitely got the understanding that I can play through it and it will get better," Stoudemire said after the scrimmage.

If you are a Suns fan, you know to temper your excitement about positive Stoudemire updates. Nevertheless, that should be all you want to hear from him right now.

more updates

 

[Chaplin]

Unfortunately, some people are convinced that the organization outright lied to the fans, which is so ridiculous it's not even funny.

Why is it ridiculous?

They lied when they signed Marbury to his huge extension and said that he would be the cornerstone of the team for years.

They lied when they said that Nash was their top free-agent choice two summers ago, when it's documented that they offered the money to Bryant first.

They all but lied last summer when they talked up Stoudemire's role in a potential championship run, when they knew that microfracture was a distinct possibility.

I support the organization and think they usually tell the truth, or at least some version of it, but it is not "ridiculous" to suspect that they might have lied. Again.

Glad to have you back. We need a good dose of semantics around here.

Since you didn't respond to the specific issue that sentence was directed to, let me just say that it was in response to the ridiculous claim that the Suns outright lied that Amare would be back in 4-5 months. They said nothing of the sort. That is what is ridiculous.