Amare out indefinately with injured knee

[Treesquid PhD]

See, I told you this would happen! Sarver is such an idiot. $70 million, and he's injured even before he signs the deal. Sarver never even bothered to have him take a physical before he signed the contract.

Hope you're happy now Sarver. You ruined our team. You could have maxed JJ, kept Amare on a rookie deal, and low-balled him because of the injured knee. But NOOOOOOOO, you had to go and lock him up with no guarantees about the future.

We could have started the year with Nash, JJ (max), Shawn, hobbling Amare, Q, resigned hunter, and then used Little Jake as our secret weapon.

Now look what we got.

Im telling you it's the curse of the foam

 

[The Commish]

Wow, sounds like everyone is ready to jump off a bridge. Everyone just take a deep breath and relax. Okay there, now that we are all settled down, here's the deal:

• We know nothing of his injury, other than he has a sore knee.
• He hasn't torn his ACL or MCL
• Worst case scenario is that he will only need arthoscopic surgery to clean up whatever is bothering him (which is only a few week process)
• There is no doubt the best physicians and surgeons will be working with him
• We have a tremendous training staff

Let's all relax, be patient, and wait to see what the problem is. The sky is not falling yet. It may be overcast, but this is Phoenix, and it is sunny 330+ days a year. It won't stay cloudy long, and I trust that Amare and the training staff will do what it takes to get him healthy and back on the court as soon as possible.

 

[JS22]

New story from ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2184276

Suns' Stoudemire sits out practice with knee injury
Associated Press

TUCSON, Ariz. -- Phoenix Suns star Amare Stoudemire saw the team doctor Friday because of pain in his troublesome left knee.

Amare Stoudemire
Stoudemire

Stoudemire has been trying to play through the discomfort at training camp by resting in the morning and practicing in the afternoon after heat treatments.

On Friday, he did little at the morning practice and skipped the next session to consult with Dr. Tom Carter.

Team president and general manager Bryan Colangelo said the possibilities ranged from Stoudemire continuing to play to "diagnostic surgery."

"We have no information at this time with respect to a direction with regard to Amare's knee," Colangelo said. "We are continuing the evaluation process and trying to determine the best course of action."

Coach Mike D'Antoni was hoping for the best.

"It could be what we thought, and it could be a little bit more," D'Antoni said.

Stoudemire, a 6-foot-10 power forward who played center for the Suns last season and still averaged 26 points a game and 29.9 points in the postseason, signed a five-year, $73 million contract extension on Monday.

The No. 9 pick in the 2002 draft out of a Florida high school, Stoudemire won the 2003 Rookie of the Year award and has refined his game each season. He received his first All-Star berth last season and earned second-team All-NBA recognition.

 

[panfolk]

ehhh the reality is no one is going to make up for Amare. The guys you mentioned, well Thomas at least is a very good player for his role but he ain't 20/10 I can tell you that much...Burke is not even worth mentioning in the same universe as Amare. Even the those high on spiked purple coolaid would agree with that.

The best we can hope for is that they go in clean the cartilage damage out and Amare is back by the start of the season. I personaly dont give a damn about the preseason or the first 3-4 weeks of the season for that matter.

The real reason I am bummed is because I was so looking forward to STAT showing his true dominance this season. I guess I have to wait.

Do you honestly have to be so insulting and negative on a fan board? Elindholm, Chaplin, Errntknight, and others are all terse but you are downright caustic especially with all the Diaw stuff. The others know when to be positive will you get a clue? I never said in my post I thought anyone but KT could begin to take up the slack from Amare's absence. There will be a huge hole in our offense but I'm hoping we can make the best of the situation and find how we work best with Grant, Burke, and maybe even Tischer in the game. I think Burke seems like a sharp player who will make his shots and that should be welcome, not trying to tear everything down by comparing him to Amare. KT averaged about 11/10 last year. It's not a huge leap to think that the Nash Effect could bring him to 20/10 if he is our main inside presence for awhile.

 

[Superbone]

well he's human crap

That was uncalled for...

 

[Chaplin]

That was uncalled for...

LOL, I think he just forgot the comma...

It should read:

Well, he's human, crap happens...

 

[George O'Brien]

If Amare is going to have a sore knee, I'd rather it be now than a month from now. At least now he has a chance to recover.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Do you honestly have to be so insulting and negative on a fan board? Elindholm, Chaplin, Errntknight, and others are all terse but you are downright caustic especially with all the Diaw stuff. The others know when to be positive will you get a clue? I never said in my post I thought anyone but KT could begin to take up the slack from Amare's absence. There will be a huge hole in our offense but I'm hoping we can make the best of the situation and find how we work best with Grant, Burke, and maybe even Tischer in the game. I think Burke seems like a sharp player who will make his shots and that should be welcome, not trying to tear everything down by comparing him to Amare. KT averaged about 11/10 last year. It's not a huge leap to think that the Nash Effect could bring him to 20/10 if he is our main inside presence for awhile.

haha dude posting on the internet is serious business I understand this.

But I am not insulting KT I clearly said he is a "very good player" I guess you missed that, well here it is again KT is a very good player sorry I do think 20/10 is quite a leap just my opinion, you don't, deal with it and move on.

and burke seriously, 99.99999% of all fans on earth would agree with me on him, he is no where near the same planet as amare...no one can pick up the slack Amare would leave. That's not negative that is realism. Amare is a superstar, Burke is a retread who is lucky to be in the league these are facts...go ahead and pretend I could care less but wishing for it won't make it real and still doesn't make me negative.

I picked the suns to go 64-18 that's not negative..look at my posts on this they have been postive about the whole thing with Amare...I am assuming you are a reader, correct?

And this has nothing to do with Diaw and his fan bois, I have even said I hope he (Boris) proves me wrong three times now, so I guess I do question your reading comprehension skill set.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

That was uncalled for...

That was taken out of context..you are ruining my internet reputation.

 

[George O'Brien]

I don't think it's a reach for KT to score 20 a game. He's a career 48.4% shooter who shoots mostly mid range jumpers. In the Sun's offense, he should get a lot of open looks with an an expectation that he should take the shots.

 

[panfolk]

haha dude posting on the internet is serious business I understand this.

But I am not insulting KT I clearly said he is a "very good player" I guess you missed that, well here it is again KT is a very good player sorry I do think 20/10 is quite a leap just my opinion, you don't, deal with it and move on.

and burke seriously, 99.99999% of all fans on earth would agree with me on him, he is no where near the same planet as amare...no one can pick up the slack Amare would leave. That's not negative that is realism. Amare is a superstar, Burke is a retread who is lucky to be in the league these are facts...go ahead and pretend I could care less but wishing for it won't make it real and still doesn't make me negative.

I picked the suns to go 64-18 that's not negative..look at my posts on this they have been postive about the whole thing with Amare...I am assuming you are a reader, correct?

And this has nothing to do with Diaw and his fan bois, I have even said I hope he (Boris) proves me wrong three times now, so I guess I do question your reading comprehension skill set.

You have the suspect skills, pal. I implied that it was a shame not to take Burke on his own merits vs. trying to compare him to Amare. You took the ball and ran with it... to the wrong goal.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

I don't think it's a reach for KT to score 20 a game. He's a career 48.4% shooter who shoots mostly mid range jumpers. In the Sun's offense, he should get a lot of open looks with an an expectation that he should take the shots.

I do, I certainly don't want KT to be a main option on the team with so many other capable scoring threats. KT's role is to be the rebounder not the main offensive threat. If KT is scoring 20/10 then I am really worried about the Suns W/L reccord.

 

[panfolk]

Our record will take a dive no matter what if Amare is out a month. I don't think KT would be the primary offensive threat I just think he will make the best of the opportunity and could have quite a few 20/10 nights. My question is with Amare out will they look for Nash to score more out of necessity or will they give the go to NAsh continuing to be a pass first kind of player. I think Marion and KT will combined keep the Suns in the mix. I think the biggest question is whether this puts Jones, JimJ, or Grant in the starting five.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

See, I told you this would happen! Sarver is such an idiot. $70 million, and he's injured even before he signs the deal. Sarver never even bothered to have him take a physical before he signed the contract.

Hope you're happy now Sarver. You ruined our team. You could have maxed JJ, kept Amare on a rookie deal, and low-balled him because of the injured knee. But NOOOOOOOO, you had to go and lock him up with no guarantees about the future.

We could have started the year with Nash, JJ (max), Shawn, hobbling Amare, Q, resigned hunter, and then used Little Jake as our secret weapon.

Now look what we got.

I really hope you are kidding.

 

[panfolk]

Suns.com just updated to saying Amare will be out indefinitely after seeing a specialist. I guess it's official, but we still don't have any idea of the severity.

 

[Amare32]

damn

just hope he isn't out too long.

 

[Errntknght]

"I really hope you are kidding."

Yeah, JC's parodying the whatever-Sarver-does-is-wrong posts we've seen. I guess this one isn't as obvious as his last effort in that direction.

 

[Amare32]

sorry if this is a stupid question but what exactly is diagnostic surgery?

 

[Errntknght]

IMO, Thomas has a better of chance scoring 20 if his man has to help defend Amare. Not that it's very relevant how many points KT scores without Stoudemire playing. If we ran the pick & pop to death and Kurt averaged 25 ppg we wouldn't win many games. It's not hard to push the P&P out to 18-20 feet which is really the very limit of Kurt's range and Nash isn't going to getting free in the lane off of it either.

I guess the good news is that D'Antoni is going to learn very quickly that his static perimeter offense isn't much good lacking any kind of threat in the paint so he's going to be forced to introduce a lot of movement - probably via set plays. We have enough good passers to make a motion offense go but I doubt he knows it well enough to use it. But, you never know about coaches...

 

[elindholm]

Trying to look on the bright side ... At least they're dealing with it now, before it has the chance to develop into something worse.

All I know is, we'd better have more information by the time our fantasy draft starts in six days. Priorities, you know.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Do you honestly have to be so insulting and negative on a fan board? Elindholm, Chaplin, Errntknight, and others are all terse but you are downright caustic especially with all the Diaw stuff. The others know when to be positive will you get a clue? I never said in my post I thought anyone but KT could begin to take up the slack from Amare's absence. There will be a huge hole in our offense but I'm hoping we can make the best of the situation and find how we work best with Grant, Burke, and maybe even Tischer in the game. I think Burke seems like a sharp player who will make his shots and that should be welcome, not trying to tear everything down by comparing him to Amare. KT averaged about 11/10 last year. It's not a huge leap to think that the Nash Effect could bring him to 20/10 if he is our main inside presence for awhile.

no offense, but no way in hell kurt thomas approaches 20 pts/game. no way.

 

[elindholm]

I like how, inevitably, my name immediately follows the words "insulting and negative," even in a thread where I hadn't participated.

 

[carey]

I like how, inevitably, my name immediately follows the words "insulting and negative," even in a thread where I hadn't participated.

If the shoe fits....

 

[Mainstreet]

If Amare is going to have a sore knee, I'd rather it be now than a month from now. At least now he has a chance to recover.

I think this is the right take on the situation based upon current information.

While it is impossible to replace Stoudemire's ability, does anyone besides me think that the Suns may soon be looking to add another 4/5 player to their roster.

Perhaps it could involve just adding another role player (such as if a Lonnie Jones becomes available) or using the trade exception to get a more established talent.

Again, no one can totally replace Stoudemire in the Suns lineup. It also reminds me how vulnerable the Suns are at backup PG if the Suns do not have adequate backup for Steve Nash on their roster.

 

[arthurracoon]

*sigh*

WHY?!?!?!?!?!