Amare Trade Check

[Mainstreet]

and i think we all deserve a little refresher:

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=80090&page=4&highlight=trade+amare

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=80620&page=2&highlight=trade+amare

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=79595&highlight=trade+amare

Asudevil83 thanks for refreshing our memories. It seems alot of the fans (including me) may have had the same ups and downs as Amare may have experienced.

Also Treesquid, I compliment you for sticking with Amare when his recovery seemed to be in doubt.

I guess only time will ultimately tell if Amare has the great career all Suns fans want for him.

I guess the crux of my concerns about Amare and the idea of entertaining trades was as I expressed on October 27th, 2006:

If healthy, Amare could be the most dominant player in basketball. If not, he could be another Penny Hardaway. There is some logic to both points of view. I wanted Amare to be the talented big man the Suns never had and for him to lead the Suns to a Championship. I guess it all depends on how one sees Amare's career playing out.

Anyway, I see D'Antoni and perhaps the team running out of patience. I do think that Amare needs to be the focus of a team's offense to be effective... something that I do not see happening with Phoenix now or in the foreseeable future.

I guess I'm really glad I was wrong about the "foreseeable future" part. I don't mind admitting that Amare is proving me wrong right now... and I'm very happy for it. However, I'm glad I said "Amare needs to be the focus of a team's offense to be effective" .... and D'Antoni made the decision to start him.

Sadly, I worry about Amare constantly when he is on the court and I guess that means I would always have to listen to trades offers. I will say this, someone would have to make an offer that I couldn't refuse for me even to consider it.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Trade check.

He is a peak value now (meaning end of this season), now is the time to deal him............

 

[TheHopToad]

Well, the Gasol plus #1 pick, provided it is this year's #1 (Oden/Durant) might be interesting to consider, although I wouldn't do it until after the lottery was determined and the pick was guaranteed top 2. Even then, I would still be hesitant.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Well, the Gasol plus #1 pick, provided it is this year's #1 (Oden/Durant) might be interesting to consider, although I wouldn't do it until after the lottery was determined and the pick was guaranteed top 2. Even then, I would still be hesitant.

I'd do it in a heartbeat if Memphis got the number one pick and Oden came out. I love Amare, but Oden + Gasol + Marion = Instant Championship.

 

[S_Nash]

Where'd you learn maths?

Nash(Oden + Gasol + Marion) = Instant Championship

 

[cly2tw]

Where'd you learn maths?

Nash(Oden + Gasol + Marion) = Instant Championship

Actually, it's more like

Nash(Oden + Gasol + XXX) = Instant Championship

where XXX stands for any collection of reasonably capable players with salaries added up to Marion's 16mil.

In one more year, if Amare's knees hold, it's gonna be

NashxAmare + XXX = Instant Championship

 

[Lynx280]

who the hell would wanna trade marion? hes does so much for th team that goes unnoticed! Hes the 1% man

 

[msdundee]

Actually, it's more like

Nash(Oden + Gasol + XXX) = Instant Championship

where XXX stands for any collection of reasonably capable players with salaries added up to Marion's 16mil.

In one more year, if Amare's knees hold, it's gonna be

NashxAmare + XXX = Instant Championship

That's a statement seen a lot and it sounds good, but there is no combination of players anyone can dream up that will = Instant Championship. Assembling the talent is the first step, but there are too many things -- even beyond injury -- that can derail even the best teams from taking it all. Some roads are bumpier than others.

 

[Covert Rain]

Hell no. Oden or no Oden. I don't care how good a guy is in college. I could make a list of dominate players in college that stunk it up in the NBA. No thanks.

"The draft is like a box a chocolates. Ya never know what your gonna get".

 

[AZBALLER]

How about Nash(Oden+Gasol+Marion+Atl's pick)=Dynasty.

 

[SO91]

How about Nash(Oden+Gasol+Marion+Atl's pick)=Dynasty.

I know dreaming is free, but damn! Maybe the IRS should start taxing some of these

 

[Mainstreet]

"The draft is like a box a chocolates. Ya never know what your gonna get".

Or a box of Cracker Jacks when the prizes were more than pieces of paper.

Also, may I call you "Forest."

 

[ma_falaa_50]

u guys should know that it takes skill players to play in dantoni system.
Oden maybe good someday but all he is right now is a prospect. they compare him to tim duncan but lets not forget duncan played with a hall of famer. it helped his development that he doesnt have to be the man right away. The suns have the personnel to win an nba championship. they just has to play longer together. It took like 5 yrs for shaq'a LA lakers to win one. Fact of the matter is talent is not what the suns are lacking its heart. they may have stolen one from dallas last week but if they were to win the NBA championship- they have to beat the Spurs, dallas, miami.

gasol is good but he is a non impact player. His spanish team won games without him. Oden right now is a great prospect but he can not play up and down type of play. I saw the game againts xavier. OSu was a lot quicker with him out of the floor.

I think the suns should pick someone like an Al horford. I think he can help right away. I think he can help challenge amare in practice. Lets not forget that Horford guarded oden and minimized his effectiveness earlier this yr. Its true Oden may end up being a better Nba Player but the suns needs solid complimentary contribution players.

I think the suns could be in a dysnasty in the making but all of that is just speculation. Amare just needs to grow as a player (both offensively and defensively) and marion needs to be more assertive on the offensive front( he needs to take full advantage of his quickness. I see him wait for steve nash to create a play for him). Nash will be nash- he has doen evrything in his power for the suns to be the best team out there its up to the others guys to make this team a "dynasty"

 

[msdundee]

The Suns need to win at least a title or two before the word "dynasty" can be taken seriously. There's nothing I'd like better, but let's be real.

 

[Covert Rain]

Or a box of Cracker Jacks when the prizes were more than pieces of paper.

Also, may I call you "Forest."

My mama always said...stupid is as stupid does.