amare wants to stay

[elindholm]

If Amare is traded for crap (which is every rumor out there yet most of you still want it done regardless), I will rag on everyone every single time the Suns lose for the next 2 years.

Who will you rag on if the Suns keep Stoudemire and lose anyway?

 

[pokerface]

All of those things are also true, to an even greater extent, about Antoine Walker.

I don't see Stoudemire as a franchise player, but to say that he won't ever win a ring is ridiculous.

Not so ridiculous. Its like a Marbury led team making it to the finals.

 

[slinslin]

All of those things are also true, to an even greater extent, about Antoine Walker.

I don't see Stoudemire as a franchise player, but to say that he won't ever win a ring is ridiculous.

Sounds like what many people said about Kobe... doh.

 

[pokerface]

Sounds like what many people said about Kobe... doh.

You wouldnt be comparing Amare to Kobe now would you?

 

[Covert Rain]

Sounds like what many people said about Kobe... doh.

I don't recall many people saying Kobe couldn't be a franchise player. Also, Kobe plays on both sides of the court. Amare doesn't.

Don't really see the comparison.

 

[AceP]

Amare should stay, Sarver should extend him by max money, the Suns should be build around him. Go ahead, do it. Just please trade Shaq and Hill to a contender. PLEASE!

 

[Mainstreet]

Amare should stay, Sarver should extend him by max money, the Suns should be build around him. Go ahead, do it. Just please trade Shaq and Hill to a contender. PLEASE!

Again Grant Hill has said he would retire before being traded and he is playing on the cheap.

Also, who's to say the Suns cannot become a contender with Gentry as the new coach.

 

[LV-Suns]

All these trades are making me a little sick inside honestly. I really hope we don't trade him now. For these deals at least.

Every hour, a new "Suns-Bulls trade talks heating up" article is popping up.

 

[cly2tw]

Amare needs to be paired with a really dynamic guard or wing player like Kobe/Wade/Paul/Rose. With a little space he is the best at getting it done in the paint. Nash could create such space a couple of years back and against all but the top 4-5 teams in the league. But he is old now and not getting it done against Spurs, NO, Lakers makes no sense to stick to it anyway.

He has actually improved on defense over the years. His was not bad at all in the allstar game. Surrounded with good defensive players, he won't be the liability he appears to be on the suns next to Nash and Shaq.

 

[AceP]

Again Grant Hill has said he would retire before being traded and he is playing on the cheap.

Also, who's to say the Suns cannot become a contender with Gentry as the new coach.

The problem of the team is far beyond Porter. This group of players are a wrong mix. Amare feels deeply threatened while Shaq is at this level.

After so much drama, so much exchanging of words via public media, do you honestly expect the team chemistry to turn 180 degree? It's too late ...

With Gentry and the returning of the running system, Shaq has to go.

 

[nowagimp]

His was not bad at all in the allstar game.

I dont disagree with your post except this part: I woulde never use defense in the all star game to make that point, its terrible. Amares defensive PER is bettere than any player that they are looking to trade him for. WIth a defensive center, amares defensive weaknesses wouldnt be an issue.

 

[Chaplin]

The problem of the team is far beyond Porter. This group of players are a wrong mix. Amare feels deeply threatened while Shaq is at this level.

After so much drama, so much exchanging of words via public media, do you honestly expect the team chemistry to turn 180 degree? It's too late ...

With Gentry and the returning of the running system, Shaq has to go.

You do know that it is not easy to make trades, right? I don't get how you and your buddies that want to gut the team think it's so easy.

 

[Mainstreet]

The problem of the team is far beyond Porter. This group of players are a wrong mix. Amare feels deeply threatened while Shaq is at this level.

After so much drama, so much exchanging of words via public media, do you honestly expect the team chemistry to turn 180 degree? It's too late ...

With Gentry and the returning of the running system, Shaq has to go.

I want a trade at this point but who's to say if the Suns had a better coach from the beginning of the season they wouldn't be right there now. Porter messed up this team's chemistry in a bad way.

 

[Blackification]

You want to mock the way Amar’e Stoudemire plays defense? Okay. Just don’t talk any junk about the way he conducted himself this weekend. As Roach said to me, “He’s a very gracious individual with a great heart. He understands he has a special opportunity.”
Too bad the Suns were so bent on overshadowing him all weekend.

http://slamonline.com/online/blogs/continuing-ed-by-ben-osborne/2009/02/amare-star-weekend/

Great post over at slam online. That one part sums up this whole year for ama're. He does good even on his worst times but the fans, media, and management decide to point out the bad over the good so they can ship him out. Way to go..

 

[AceP]

You do know that it is not easy to make trades, right? I don't get how you and your buddies that want to gut the team think it's so easy.

Why do you think I want to gut the team? That makes me very sad. The only reason I'm here talking is because I want to see them win a championship.

By all means, trading Shaq is wished by many many fans here. And makes perfect sense to keep Amare.

 

[Chaplin]

Why do you think I want to gut the team? That makes me very sad. The only reason I'm here talking is because I want to see them win a championship.

By all means, trading Shaq is wished by many many fans here. And makes perfect sense to keep Amare.

It doesn't matter, you could want to gut the team (about 75% of people on here want to), but it's unrealistic to think that's even possible, let alone probable.

 

[pokerface]

I want a trade at this point but who's to say if the Suns had a better coach from the beginning of the season they wouldn't be right there now. Porter messed up this team's chemistry in a bad way.

Yeah once Porter expeced them to play defense and held them acountable for it then it was all down hill from there chemistry wise.

 

[pokerface]

It doesn't matter, you could want to gut the team (about 75% of people on here want to), but it's unrealistic to think that's even possible, let alone probable.

I want the team gutted, sliced up, put on a bun, then fed to the first homeless dog they can find.

 

[pokerface]

I dont disagree with your post except this part: I woulde never use defense in the all star game to make that point, its terrible. Amares defensive PER is bettere than any player that they are looking to trade him for. WIth a defensive center, amares defensive weaknesses wouldnt be an issue.

Thats good. Then all we need is someone to rebound the ball and pass for him too. Then he'd be the perfect powerforward.

 

[pokerface]

http://slamonline.com/online/blogs/continuing-ed-by-ben-osborne/2009/02/amare-star-weekend/

Great post over at slam online. That one part sums up this whole year for ama're. He does good even on his worst times but the fans, media, and management decide to point out the bad over the good so they can ship him out. Way to go..

Well what are we supposed to do...be so blinded by his scoring we see nothing else? What does he do besides score on a sufficient level?

 

[cly2tw]

I dont disagree with your post except this part: I woulde never use defense in the all star game to make that point, its terrible. Amares defensive PER is bettere than any player that they are looking to trade him for. WIth a defensive center, amares defensive weaknesses wouldnt be an issue.

I see your point. But Amare was much worse in earlier all star games. And the bolded part is exactly right. In NO, he'd be much better partner to Paul than West ever was. His defense is really not worse than the likes of West, Boozer, Dirk once he takes it seriously. You don't just trade him because he is not Duncan and doesn't perform to his potential with aged Nash and Shaq dominating the ball on this team. Particularly, if it's about rebuilding, which ultmately will be if he was traded for any of the rumored deals.

 

[Blackification]

Well what are we supposed to do...be so blinded by his scoring we see nothing else? What does he do besides score on a sufficient level?

there is a difference between complaining about a player and saying he should be traded. The first thing that came up about amar'e being traded were from the fans and then the suns media and then the suns themselves. You don't trade a player who you know you won't get a good trade for. Suns fans were delusional in thinking they could trade amar'e and get enough back to be contenders.

 

[pokerface]

there is a difference between complaining about a player and saying he should be traded. The first thing that came up about amar'e being traded were from the fans and then the suns media and then the suns themselves. You don't trade a player who you know you won't get a good trade for. Suns fans were delusional in thinking they could trade amar'e and get enough back to be contenders.

I dont think anyone expected to trade Amare and become instant contenders...we're not contenders now with Amare.

 

[Blackification]

I dont think anyone expected to trade Amare and become instant contenders...we're not contenders now with Amare.

well what do you become after amar'e is traded? No way are they going anywhere in the playoffs and what are they going to do for the rest of the year? Plan for rebuild mode? because they don't have a chance in the playoffs. To me its like if we trade amar'e what is the point of watching anymore? We aren't going to be in the lottery and we aren't going to do good in the playoffs i'll watch and hope for them to win but its going to be kind of like watching just for the sake of watching due to curiosity.

 

[SirStefan32]

well what do you become after amar'e is traded? No way are they going anywhere in the playoffs and what are they going to do for the rest of the year? Plan for rebuild mode? because they don't have a chance in the playoffs. To me its like if we trade amar'e what is the point of watching anymore? We aren't going to be in the lottery and we aren't going to do good in the playoffs i'll watch and hope for them to win but its going to be kind of like watching just for the sake of watching due to curiosity.

They don't have a chance WITH Amare. The best they can hope for, with or without him, is 2nd round exit (if they are lucky enough to somehow win in first round).
The current group can not win it all. The whole point of trading Amare, Shaq, Nash, etc is that it is OVER.