amusing trivia question
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fordronken
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Woo-hoo! I got it!
Jim Jackson has really had an odd career. From how hyped he was, to how how hyped that Dallas team was, then to how many teams he played for...it's really been interesting.
And by the way, this trivia also shows the Suns are pretty good at finding good players without using one of the top four or five picks in the draft.
Jim Jackson has really had an odd career. From how hyped he was, to how how hyped that Dallas team was, then to how many teams he played for...it's really been interesting.
And by the way, this trivia also shows the Suns are pretty good at finding good players without using one of the top four or five picks in the draft.
I liked when we had Demare Johnson on the team and we had all those 1st round picks.
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elindholm
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And by the way, this trivia also shows the Suns are pretty good at finding good players without using one of the top four or five picks in the draft.
And it also shows that the 1992 draft stunk, at least as far as the lottery picks were concerned. Check this out:
1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Alonzo Mourning
3. Christian Laettner
4. Jim Jackson
5. LaPhonso Ellis
6. Tom Gugliotta
7. Walt Williams
8. Todd Day
9. Clarence Weatherspoon
10. Adam Keefe
11. Robert Horry
12. Harold Miner
13. Bryant Stith
Besides the top two, no one has had a significant career. I guess you can say Gugliotta got a bad break with is injuries, but still, that's a list of non-impact players if ever there was one.
And it also shows that the 1992 draft stunk, at least as far as the lottery picks were concerned. Check this out:
1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Alonzo Mourning
3. Christian Laettner
4. Jim Jackson
5. LaPhonso Ellis
6. Tom Gugliotta
7. Walt Williams
8. Todd Day
9. Clarence Weatherspoon
10. Adam Keefe
11. Robert Horry
12. Harold Miner
13. Bryant Stith
Besides the top two, no one has had a significant career. I guess you can say Gugliotta got a bad break with is injuries, but still, that's a list of non-impact players if ever there was one.
Chaplin
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Wow, Adam Keefe, Harold Miner and Bryant Stith.
Haven't heard those names in awhile.
Haven't heard those names in awhile.
fordronken
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Wow. If the Heat had ended up getting Jim Jackson like they wanted, they'd have had the top four picks from the same draft on their team this year.
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elindholm
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Wow. If the Heat had ended up getting Jim Jackson like they wanted, they'd have had the top four picks from the same draft on their team this year.
Heh, that's great! The Clippers had Brand/Odom/Miller/Maggette (1/4/8/13 from 1999) for a while, but it's cooler if the team takes much longer to assemble all of the players.
Heh, that's great! The Clippers had Brand/Odom/Miller/Maggette (1/4/8/13 from 1999) for a while, but it's cooler if the team takes much longer to assemble all of the players.
George O'Brien
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Some drafts are strange like that. BTW, there were some finds later in that draft. Not all became stars, but they played a while.
15. Anthony Peeler Missouri LA Lakers
17. Doug Christie Pepperdine Seattle
21. Jon Barry Georgia Tech Boston
22. Oliver Miller Arkansas Phoenix
24. Latrell Sprewell Alabama Golden State
29. P.J. Brown Louisiana Tech New Jersey
Some drafts are strange like that. BTW, there were some finds later in that draft. Not all became stars, but they played a while.
15. Anthony Peeler Missouri LA Lakers
17. Doug Christie Pepperdine Seattle
21. Jon Barry Georgia Tech Boston
22. Oliver Miller Arkansas Phoenix
24. Latrell Sprewell Alabama Golden State
29. P.J. Brown Louisiana Tech New Jersey
elindholm said:
How many rings equals a significant career? He was an impact player for Houston in both of their runs, and came up big for LA several times at clutch moments in the playoffs.
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Horry is a role player with a knack for being in the right place at the right time. I won't get into the "rings equals greatness" argument again, because that has been done to death on this board. However, my guess is that usually, when a team has the #11 pick, they're hoping for someone who brings more to the table than Robert Horry. I know I would be.
Not that there haven't been plenty of worse flops at that draft position, of course. But if Horry is the third- or fourth-best player among lottery picks, I'd say that's a pretty sad lottery.
Not that there haven't been plenty of worse flops at that draft position, of course. But if Horry is the third- or fourth-best player among lottery picks, I'd say that's a pretty sad lottery.
goldseraph
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In my opinion, Horry is an underacheiver. With his size, skills, and silkiness
he should have accomplished much more. Sure, he won some rings, but that
has much less to do with Horry than it does Shaq and Kobe. He has made
some big shots, but he was also god awful in one or two of LA's playoff runs.
But yes, that is quite a weak draft - it goes to show you that oftentimes these players are hyped before the draft and in college. Sometimes they end up like Todd Day, sometimes they are Dwyane Wade.
he should have accomplished much more. Sure, he won some rings, but that
has much less to do with Horry than it does Shaq and Kobe. He has made
some big shots, but he was also god awful in one or two of LA's playoff runs.
But yes, that is quite a weak draft - it goes to show you that oftentimes these players are hyped before the draft and in college. Sometimes they end up like Todd Day, sometimes they are Dwyane Wade.
elindholm said:
Good points. I never said he was a superstar, but he definitely had his moments, many of them in key playoff games. IMO, Houston doesn't have their titles without him, and the Lakers have at least one less title.
az1965
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He did great in Phoenix as well... that towel was right on target...Brian in Mesa said:How many rings equals a significant career? He was an impact player for Houston in both of their runs, and came up big for LA several times at clutch moments in the playoffs.
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Yeah, he has definitely had some "moments" in his career. He has come up big and shined during pressure situations and other times he has disappeared or disappointed. He also has a knack for looking bored out on the court. Odd.
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IMO, Houston doesn't have their titles without him, and the Lakers have at least one less title.
I agree, except that I'd say that Houston and Los Angeles would have fewer titles without a player like Horry. Every good team needs role players who can step up and hit a big shot when the moment comes. Horry was good at that, and through dumb luck, he found himself on more great teams than a lot of similar players do. Certainly he deserves more credit than someone like Wesley Person, who missed the biggest shot of his life when the time came. But with Horry, ultimately you're talking about a 6' 10" guy who has averaged less than eight points (on 43% shooting) and five rebounds throughout his career. That isn't what I'd hope for from a #11 pick.
I agree, except that I'd say that Houston and Los Angeles would have fewer titles without a player like Horry. Every good team needs role players who can step up and hit a big shot when the moment comes. Horry was good at that, and through dumb luck, he found himself on more great teams than a lot of similar players do. Certainly he deserves more credit than someone like Wesley Person, who missed the biggest shot of his life when the time came. But with Horry, ultimately you're talking about a 6' 10" guy who has averaged less than eight points (on 43% shooting) and five rebounds throughout his career. That isn't what I'd hope for from a #11 pick.
thegrahamcrackr
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elindholm said:
Hey, by today's standards that isn't half bad
The think about Jackson and the Heat is great. When they got Zo, they became the first team to have 1-3 of the same draft.
hcsilla
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elindholm said:
Which shot was that?
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Which shot was that?
It was at the end of regulation of Game 7 versus Houston, '94 or '95, I can never remember. The game was tied, Person got a great look, missed it (not by much!), the Suns lost in overtime, and the rest is history. I'm pretty sure it was the year that Orlando was the Finals opponent, so that would be '95 (right?).
It was at the end of regulation of Game 7 versus Houston, '94 or '95, I can never remember. The game was tied, Person got a great look, missed it (not by much!), the Suns lost in overtime, and the rest is history. I'm pretty sure it was the year that Orlando was the Finals opponent, so that would be '95 (right?).
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elindholm said:
I agree with you that Horry is the a good roleplayer on GOOD teams like Rocket, Lakers and Spurs. He seems to be on teams that are contenders. Rocket was pretty hot and so was Lakers and Spurs. I have to say LUCK has a lot to do with him than his actuall skills.
Nevertheless, Horry is a good roleplayer...not a star at all.
hcsilla
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Thanks, elindholm.
