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This is Whiz playing Whiz games. Whiz has his boys, and he has boys that he hates. Whiz hates Matt, hates Edge, and sometimes it seems he hates Beanie. Why? Who the hell knows. Whiz perfected his favorites only shenanigans instituting the rediculous "Kurt Warner no-huddle package" and then topped that off by benching Edge which resulted in the Cards losing their running game for almost half a season, only to bring him back in week 17 along with the rest of the offense. Anyone who thinks Edge wasn't a big part of the Super Bowl run is blind. We have seen Whiz's cocky, rediculous moves before. I would say I am surprised but I am not. Matt needs a change of scenery. Playing Warner over Matt....well that is understandable. Playing Derek Anderson over Matt is an insult and is meant to be one. Leinart and Whiz don't mesh. They never will. I hope he gets released soon and gets a legitimate shot to succeed because I have no doubt he has it in him. But no one can succeed when the coach not only dislikes you, he goes out of his way to ensure you fail. 3rd and one....let's go deep. No huddle offense? Let's bring in Warner. Unfortunately it looks like this day was destined the day Whiz took over......We want to make Whiz out to be a God because he took us places no one has, but that dpesn't mean his arrogance can't lead us right back to the cellar.



Man some of you guys really have some Matt Leinart man love. Even though hes been nothing but a mediocre let down. Wow!

Yet trash the hell out of the only coach that has brought 3 years of consistent success to a historically putrid franchise.

Amazing!
 
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just the fact that Wiz has to see if DA can claim this job makes me REALLY doubt Matt. If the dude who's been in our system for 3 years is having trouble holding off a piece of crap from Cleveland, that speaks VOLUMES as to what to expect from him.

Could be in for a loooooooooong year with our QB troubles.

This doesn't shock me but it does make me chuckle at all those who adamantly scolded people that Wiz had "complete confidence" in Matt. The writing was on the wall when we tried trading picks and offering a decent contract for Whitehurst.

But with Whisenhunt saying that he had 'confidence' in Matt and that he 'earned the right to be starter' doesn't sit right with me. Either he was misleading us about Matt then or now.
 

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Man some of you guys really have some Matt Leinart man love. Even though hes been nothing but a mediocre let down. Wow!

Yet trash the hell out of the only coach that has brought 3 years of consistent success to a historically putrid franchise.

Amazing!

This is the one decision that he has made that made me really do a second take.
 

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All I know is I want the two rookie QBs on the roster so the Cardinals have some hope for the future.

One won't be on the roster, unless he can escape the practice squad.
 

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But with Whisenhunt saying that he had 'confidence' in Matt and that he 'earned the right to be starter' doesn't sit right with me. Either he was misleading us about Matt then or now.

He probably did have complete confidence until watching him everyday in camp for the last month and mini camps. As well as 2 pre season games.
 

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Best View of this situation yet. Sounds dead on

"Derek Anderson gets the start, and that means both he and Matt Leinart will be under additional scrutiny. Much was made, and rightfully so, about coach Ken Whisenhunt's decision to replace Leinart with Anderson to start this game. But nothing has necessarily changed for good. If Anderson struggles and Leinart finally breaks out, Whisenhunt will look like a master motivator. If Anderson outplays Leinart, hey, Whisenhunt must have known what he was doing all along. The priority, though, isn't for Whisenhunt to look smart. It's for the Cardinals to get the most out of their quarterbacks."

ESPN talking about each game this week.

If they both play like crap then Whisenhunt doesn't do anything but possibly shake the seemingly fragile confidence of his starting QB. If Anderson has to lead this team, we will be the 6-10 team that the pundits say we will be.

Our best chance to win is with Matt, this year and in the future unless we can draft another top 10 pick next year.
 

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This is Whiz playing Whiz games. Whiz has his boys, and he has boys that he hates. Whiz hates Matt, hates Edge, and sometimes it seems he hates Beanie. Why? Who the hell knows. Whiz perfected his favorites only shenanigans instituting the rediculous "Kurt Warner no-huddle package" and then topped that off by benching Edge which resulted in the Cards losing their running game for almost half a season, only to bring him back in week 17 along with the rest of the offense. Anyone who thinks Edge wasn't a big part of the Super Bowl run is blind. We have seen Whiz's cocky, rediculous moves before. I would say I am surprised but I am not. Matt needs a change of scenery. Playing Warner over Matt....well that is understandable. Playing Derek Anderson over Matt is an insult and is meant to be one. Leinart and Whiz don't mesh. They never will. I hope he gets released soon and gets a legitimate shot to succeed because I have no doubt he has it in him. But no one can succeed when the coach not only dislikes you, he goes out of his way to ensure you fail. 3rd and one....let's go deep. No huddle offense? Let's bring in Warner. Unfortunately it looks like this day was destined the day Whiz took over......We want to make Whiz out to be a God because he took us places no one has, but that dpesn't mean his arrogance can't lead us right back to the cellar.
I like Leinart and all i can say to that post is, wow. There isn't a coach in ANY sport that is going to play a guy that he doesn't think is going to give him the best chance to win. If DA starts, Leinart has no one to blame but himself. Do you actually think Whiz is thinkig ML is a much better QB but doesn't like him personally so he'll go with someome else :doi:.
 

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This is the one decision that he has made that made me really do a second take.

Platooning Qbs in Matt's 2nd season, coming off a great rookie year should have been the 1st. Benching Edge in the Super Bowl season effectively killing the offense for about 6 games should have been the 2nd. This is the third.
 

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He probably did have complete confidence until watching him everyday in camp for the last month and mini camps. As well as 2 pre season games.

Not buying this one. Nothing that Whisenhunt has done has really shown us that.
 

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If they both play like crap then Whisenhunt doesn't do anything but possibly shake the seemingly fragile confidence of his starting QB. If Anderson has to lead this team, we will be the 6-10 team that the pundits say we will be.

Our best chance to win is with Matt, this year and in the future unless we can draft another top 10 pick next year.

We quite possibly be a 6-10 team nomatter who is QBing this year!
 

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Originally Posted by azsouthendzone
This is Whiz playing Whiz games. Whiz has his boys, and he has boys that he hates. Whiz hates Matt, hates Edge, and sometimes it seems he hates Beanie. Why? Who the hell knows. Whiz perfected his favorites only shenanigans instituting the rediculous "Kurt Warner no-huddle package" and then topped that off by benching Edge which resulted in the Cards losing their running game for almost half a season, only to bring him back in week 17 along with the rest of the offense. Anyone who thinks Edge wasn't a big part of the Super Bowl run is blind. We have seen Whiz's cocky, rediculous moves before. I would say I am surprised but I am not. Matt needs a change of scenery. Playing Warner over Matt....well that is understandable. Playing Derek Anderson over Matt is an insult and is meant to be one. Leinart and Whiz don't mesh. They never will. I hope he gets released soon and gets a legitimate shot to succeed because I have no doubt he has it in him. But no one can succeed when the coach not only dislikes you, he goes out of his way to ensure you fail. 3rd and one....let's go deep. No huddle offense? Let's bring in Warner. Unfortunately it looks like this day was destined the day Whiz took over......We want to make Whiz out to be a God because he took us places no one has, but that dpesn't mean his arrogance can't lead us right back to the cellar.

There is not a more qualified QB on this roster than Matt period! Whiz is playing his stupid games which may backfire big time in this instance! Hopefully Matt will come out and show that he knows this offense and can execute it better than any QB on the roster and this sideshow QB contreversary will be over soon!
 

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Platooning Qbs in Matt's 2nd season, coming off a great rookie year should have been the 1st. Benching Edge in the Super Bowl season effectively killing the offense for about 6 games should have been the 2nd. This is the third.

I supported benching of Edge and was pretty luke warm about starting Warner. I'm very much against this one and completely reeks of desperation.... something I didn't expect from him. Which is weird because you could almost same the same thing about the 3rd preseason game with Leinart/Warner. This one just feels completely different. We aren't talking about a super bowl QB.
 

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There is not a more qualified QB on this roster than Matt period!

Unless you've been to every practice and every game and every tape session and have an ear for who the players believe in, there's no way in the world that I think anyone can make this statement.
 

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Have to agree with azsouthendzone whiz has made very questionable moves in the past and they happen to work out for him this one may very well blow up in his face! DA sucks we would be better off going with the young guys. DA has been in the league for along time and is what he is and not getting better!
 

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Platooning Qbs in Matt's 2nd season, coming off a great rookie year should have been the 1st.


That same platooning that was pure genius and worked perfectly? Actually sparking the team and offense? That what you referring to?
 

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We quite possibly be a 6-10 team nomatter who is QBing this year!

For some reason, I refused to even think that we couldn't be anything less than a 8-8 team until now.

:(
 

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yeah right cheesebeef! He is the only QB who has been on the team and knows this offense better than any of the other QB's that alone makes him more qualified than 2 rookies and a terrible QB in DA! Give me a break.
 

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Man some of you guys really have some Matt Leinart man love. Even though hes been nothing but a mediocre let down. Wow!

Yet trash the hell out of the only coach that has brought 3 years of consistent success to a historically putrid franchise.

Amazing!

I don't really buy into using past history to make a coach immune to criticism. Whiz went to the Super Bowl, after underachieving mightly in the regular season, with Denny's guys. The term "Worst Playoff Team Ever" was not accurate, but because of some silly personnel moves that stifled the offense it appeared that way leading up to the playoffs. Whiz isn't God.

I will repeat....the WORST aspect of the move is that Derek Anderson is the replacement. I really do not think any of you realize the full implications of that statement. This isn't Warner stepping in. This is replacing a guy who you have invested a lot of time in with a known piece of garbage. Awful move.
 

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They have been trying to coach up Leinart for some time now. If he is so fragile, he can hit the road. He doesn't have what it takes.
 

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^Agree 100% azsouthendzone DA is complete crap which is why a pitiful Cleveland team gladly let him go!
 

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But with Whisenhunt saying that he had 'confidence' in Matt and that he 'earned the right to be starter' doesn't sit right with me. Either he was misleading us about Matt then or now.

come on dude. half of a coach's job is PR. Actions speak louder than words... and our actions were that we didn't know if we had a QB or not but there's no way he's going to say that to the general public who probably doesn't follow every single thing that happens in the off-season. If I talked to ANY of my Cardinals fan friends... die-hards... they'd have NO CLUE we even talked about trading picks for Whitehurst. They wouldn't even know who i was talking about.

we few here... and by this I mean EVERYONE here... knows more about the Cards than any fan on the planet... but his statements are made for us. They're made for the public at large.
 

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Even if this is a ploy to get Leinart going, it's has to be a concern that Whiz would have to resort to such a tactic in week 3 of the pre-season before what is Leinart's biggest season as pro. ML had the chance to grab the QB position and run with it, with a huge contract incentive to boot, and establish himself as the future. Obviously, he hasn't done that.
 

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If they both play like crap then Whisenhunt doesn't do anything but possibly shake the seemingly fragile confidence of his starting QB. If Anderson has to lead this team, we will be the 6-10 team that the pundits say we will be.

Our best chance to win is with Matt, this year and in the future unless we can draft another top 10 pick next year.
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Have to agree with azsouthendzone whiz has made very questionable moves in the past and they happen to work out for him this one may very well blow up in his face! DA sucks we would be better off going with the young guys. DA has been in the league for along time and is what he is and not getting better!

What do you base this stuff of? Matt and DA are nearly identical in ypa DA has a better Td to int ratio. Matt does have a better comp% but not hugely better. Plus DA had to throw in shoddy azz Cleveland with far less talent overall. Oh and BtW both been in NFL for same amount of time.
 

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That same platooning that was pure genius and worked perfectly? Actually sparking the team and offense? That what you referring to?

Yes that is what I am referring to. As I recall Matt lead the game winning drive vs Pittsburgh that year. Matt needed to develop at that time and he sure as hell knew how to run a no huddle. It wasn't as if they went on a tear winning games. Long term that was an awful move and at the time it was a head scratcher. There is a reason no teams platoon QBs in the NFL.
 

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