Another opposing team takeover
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I imagine most the people in this board don't sell tickets, sleep it off bert
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82CardsGrad
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Bert - I love you man... BUT:
These threads and never-ending gripes about the lack of support for our Cards is all full-on lunacy...
Take it from me, please... A lifelong NY fan who regularly attended Giants, Yankees and Knicks games. I know what a home-field/court advantage is all about.
I've been to plenty of Bears and Cubs games. Plenty of Red Sox and Patriots games. I've been to Lambeau plenty of times. I know full well what a home-town crowd sounds like.
I've been a season ticket holder since the day I moved to Phoenix in 2001. And since 2006, UoP has been a very, very impressive home-field stadium. In a market that happens to be 2nd home, Transplant and Vacation center. So yea, we have a ton of people from colder weather climates who move here, live here part of the year or vacation here over the holidays. C'mon folks... is that really difficult to grasp????
And yet, I would say that I am consistently impressed, even over the past 3 games against the Vikes, Packers and Hawks, with the support, sound and passion from Cards fans at UoP! The team itself took the starch out of the crowd with their play... however, early on, UoP was rocking as loudly as it always has.
Let's stop with these threads that do nothing to improve a situation that is at best, a tiny nuisance...a reality that comes when living in a highly desirable part of the country...
These threads and never-ending gripes about the lack of support for our Cards is all full-on lunacy...
Take it from me, please... A lifelong NY fan who regularly attended Giants, Yankees and Knicks games. I know what a home-field/court advantage is all about.
I've been to plenty of Bears and Cubs games. Plenty of Red Sox and Patriots games. I've been to Lambeau plenty of times. I know full well what a home-town crowd sounds like.
I've been a season ticket holder since the day I moved to Phoenix in 2001. And since 2006, UoP has been a very, very impressive home-field stadium. In a market that happens to be 2nd home, Transplant and Vacation center. So yea, we have a ton of people from colder weather climates who move here, live here part of the year or vacation here over the holidays. C'mon folks... is that really difficult to grasp????
And yet, I would say that I am consistently impressed, even over the past 3 games against the Vikes, Packers and Hawks, with the support, sound and passion from Cards fans at UoP! The team itself took the starch out of the crowd with their play... however, early on, UoP was rocking as loudly as it always has.
Let's stop with these threads that do nothing to improve a situation that is at best, a tiny nuisance...a reality that comes when living in a highly desirable part of the country...
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This. Wasn't even close to Packer fans. Pretty typical for a team that travels decent.
I've been to every single home game since they moved here and there were maybe 10-15k Seahawk fans, but they're generally a loud bunch. More so than most teams' fans. It was the opposite of the GB game. Cards fans didn't have anything to cheer for.
It's always been an issue for AZ teams and always will be. We are a winter destination.
The ppl next to me sold their GB seats for $500/per. I get it and as long as the fans go home disappointed I'm ok with it. Just didn't happen today.
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The whining on this thread is beyond childish
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It's amazing that you cant even voice your opinion on this board without getting attacked.
I've been called childish, that I'm bitching, that I'm out of line, that I need to sleep it off, that I'm a hypocrite. Or the best, that I'm a cry baby and that I should shut the hell up. But yeah, I'm the one who is out of line. OK
The original point was that it sucked having tons of opposing fans in our stadium every week, from the way they were showing it on TV it looked really really bad, when fans who were there corrected me, I backed off and apologized. I never called out, attacked or even mentioned one single member of this board in my original post.
But keep the personal attacks coming, they make you all look really cool on the internet.
Hollywood, why would I know the drill of what they show on TV since I was a season ticket holder? Before last year I had really watched very few games on TV. You're just trying to zing me like everyone else.
You guys disagree, I get it. I still think it's a shame and it makes us look bad. That's my opinion, it sucks that you guys cant disagree with me without attacking me instead of my opinion.
And hey ARZ,,,,
Pot meet Kettle. How many childish threads have you created? Aren't you the guy who said Dwight Freeney was a waste after 1 game? Atleast I have stuck around to defend my opinion and didn't disappear from the thread like you always do like a coward. You calling someone childish is freaking hilarious.
I've been called childish, that I'm bitching, that I'm out of line, that I need to sleep it off, that I'm a hypocrite. Or the best, that I'm a cry baby and that I should shut the hell up. But yeah, I'm the one who is out of line. OK
The original point was that it sucked having tons of opposing fans in our stadium every week, from the way they were showing it on TV it looked really really bad, when fans who were there corrected me, I backed off and apologized. I never called out, attacked or even mentioned one single member of this board in my original post.
But keep the personal attacks coming, they make you all look really cool on the internet.
Hollywood, why would I know the drill of what they show on TV since I was a season ticket holder? Before last year I had really watched very few games on TV. You're just trying to zing me like everyone else.
You guys disagree, I get it. I still think it's a shame and it makes us look bad. That's my opinion, it sucks that you guys cant disagree with me without attacking me instead of my opinion.
And hey ARZ,,,,
Pot meet Kettle. How many childish threads have you created? Aren't you the guy who said Dwight Freeney was a waste after 1 game? Atleast I have stuck around to defend my opinion and didn't disappear from the thread like you always do like a coward. You calling someone childish is freaking hilarious.
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Well said, puts this issue to bed.
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I totally agree with you, you have made some excellent points bro and I appreciate you making your point without insulting me. Thanks 82.
Go Cards.
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That was my thought.
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The same way I do. With a little common sense.
I was just pointing out the irony of your statement and this was your reply. Can you tell me again how I personally attacked you?
Never saw that apology you mentioned either. But thats ok.
This was sent from my cell pjone so please excise any typeos or other errors.
In my opinion it is not okay because you post this venom against fans based on the little you saw and heard on TV. Were their fans loud? Yeah. Did they outnumber us? Not. Even. Close. Does it still suck? Sure. But fans here that were at the game and saw the real percentage of Cards to Seahawks fans don't really wanna come read this crap after sitting through a not-so-fun game.
Take it down a notch. If you're gonna start a thread like this then you're gonna have to expect people to disagree and challenge you on it.
Why is this on the fans all the time. We just got our first 12 plus win season ever. This is a snow bird state. This team hasn't won jack over any time frame ever. Lots of tickets for sale going into this week. Go buy some next time. Pin them on your wall just for the hell of it.
Don't you live in Arizona? Instead of taking pictures from your TV complaining about it how come you aren't in the stadium cheering for your team?
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^this! I was just about to post the same thing after reading the OP.
How selfish for him to think that the Cardinals are the only thing matters in every Cardinal fan's life. I don't live in Arizona but I have a friend that's a Cardinal fan who sold his ticket to help pay for his college tuition fees. Is he supposed to think "Nah screw college, Cardinals all that matters!"?
Are the Cardinals gonna give him a way to earn a living? Are they going to put food on the table for him and his family couple years from now?
Even the other excuses that Bert brushed off like buying Christmas gifts for family etc are all very legitimate. There are people who struggle to earn a living and sports are the last thing on their mind. Their worried about if they can put food on the table for their wife and kids. So yes someone should worry more about buying their kids Christmas presents or birthday presents than they should attending a football game.
Don't forget this is nothing more than a game. And you arent employed by the Cardinals or get paid by them. This is a game played by MILLIONAIRE athletes while you still have to go and live your own life and work at your own job to earn any money. Don't think of it as anything more than entertainment.
Bert, your own family and friends should still be more important to you than the Cardinals or else I would work on getting your priorities right. It's great that you were a 15 year ticket holder and still go to so many games but don't just assume that everyone's that lucky. Others have real financial problems and have to spend money on things more important (mentioned above) than the Cardinals or anything sports or entertainment related for that matter.
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This has been brought up in other threads on the same topic, I believe, but I'm a believer that if you can't put food on the table for your kids, can't pay your college tuition, or buy Christmas or birthday presents, you shouldn't be buying season tickets to watch millionaire athletes play a game in the first place.
There are of course circumstances that change over half a year, but the Cardinals seem to see a wholesale abandonment from the fanbase when it counts. This is just perception on my end, but a lot of teams' fans seem willing to do all it takes just to get to a game, and our stadium is still the center of asking people to sit down while we're on defense. This comes from personal experience and other fans.
It happens in every stadium in the NFL that much is clear. I've come to the conclusion that it's not worth the bitching when a Steelers fan base or a Cowboys fan base can take over a freaking franchises stadium like Lambeau Field and the Green Bay Packers The same way you see it happen in Arizona then we hardly have anything to worry about ...
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I expected a push back, just didn't expect all the personal attacks even after I apologized, and certainly not from the people they are coming from. But you're right I can handle it. Have a good one.
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That's because you dont look, but it's fine dude, you win. I'm truly sorry for your personal struggles as well.
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You are utterly ridiculous...
I think these types of threads are getting old. There is nothing anyone on this board can do about it short of buying more season tickets. I live in Pa so of course I'm not going to be buying any tickets. I'm sure that it is bothersome to be at games and see so many fans of the opposing team. The fact is there is nothing that can be done about it. The Phoenix area is a sizeable retirement area and with that comes fans from enemy territories. What someone needs to do is find out how many seats are sold as season tickets and how many are single game seats. I suspect you will find that most of the opposing fans sit in single game seats.
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Ditto. I was at the Eagles/Cards game in 1987 and there were a large contingent of people from Baltimore wearing T-shirts to try to woo the Cards to Baltimore. Had that happened, I would have been a season ticket holder for sure. Remember when there were rumors of the Eagles moving to Phoenix and the Cards moving to Philly?
I don't think a lot of it was personal attacks, maybe just taken that way. When I said sleep it off I just meant you'll probably be less angry about it the next day.
I bet for the playoff games the opposing fan % is much smaller. It was in 08 and 09
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