Anquan Boldin fires Drew Rosenhaus

[AsUdUdE]

There are two ways of looking at this.. and ultimatly it will come down to one of these two...

1. I think lately with Rosenhaus coming out and saying he isn't asking for 10 million ect... could that have set Anquan off, thinking his agent is limiting what he could potentially earn??

2. Anquan wants SOMETHING done.... I am not convinced this move is because he wants to resign for sure.... I think this move is so something can be done, I think he really is 50/50 on whether or not he wants to stay or go....

In the end only time will tell, but hopefully something gets done now, I am seriously good whether he is traded (for a MINUMUM of a 1st and 3rd) or resigned, I just think it needs to be done soon....

 

[82CardsGrad]

There are two ways of looking at this.. and ultimatly it will come down to one of these two...

1. I think lately with Rosenhaus coming out and saying he isn't asking for 10 million ect... could that have set Anquan off, thinking his agent is limiting what he could potentially earn??

2. Anquan wants SOMETHING done.... I am not convinced this move is because he wants to resign for sure.... I think this move is so something can be done, I think he really is 50/50 on whether or not he wants to stay or go....

In the end only time will tell, but hopefully something gets done now, I am seriously good whether he is traded (for a MINUMUM of a 1st and 3rd) or resigned, I just think it needs to be done soon....

I agree with this... I happen to believe Q dumped Rosenhaus only because nothing has been done up to this point. I think had Q been traded and received a new deal worth whatever Q thinks he's worth, he'd be building statues of Rosenhaus in his front yard.

I really hope Q shocks me and eventually settles on a deal with the Cards. But I'm really not expecting it...

 

[O]

It's my understanding, please, someone corect me if I'm wrong.

An agent doesn't actually get paid unttil he, the new agent, actually negotiates a new contract or extension.

Something to keep in mind.

 

[DoTheDew]

I doubt Q stops wanting a new contract, but I expect his negotiating through the media to end immediately. I think this move increases his chances of getting an extension this year, because Graves, B, and Whiz don't seem to like media cry baby types.

 

[40yearfan]

I hope that Boldin decides to hire Larry's agent and he gets all the incentives into his contract that Larry originally got.

 

[Skkorpion]

Read Urban's latest blog on this

Boldin has had 4 agents so far. Has no problem firing them. Quit blaming Rosenhaus. He's the puppet. Boldin is the puppet master.

http://www.azcardinals.com/blog/blog.php?author=1

 

[zuchini]

Dansby applauds Q's move

for whatever that's worth.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/05/26/20090526boldinagent-CR.html

 

[Gambit]

Bravo. Welcome back, Q

Edit: looks like I suffered from premature celebration

 

[zuchini]

sorry thought this article added new info that hadn't been posted. just read other posts on subject. feel free delete this thread.

 

[TJ]

Boldin has had 4 agents so far. Has no problem firing them. Quit blaming Rosenhaus. He's the puppet. Boldin is the puppet master.

http://www.azcardinals.com/blog/blog.php?author=1

I like the move only because I think attention ****** like Rosenhaus deserve this type of negative publicity and it's funny to watch them try to spin out of it.

But like you, I am skeptical about Q's motivation for the move. Is it because having an agent like Rosenhaus has tarnished his reputation or he feels that someone else can get what he wants?

More details to come.....

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Boldin has had 4 agents so far. Has no problem firing them. Quit blaming Rosenhaus. He's the puppet. Boldin is the puppet master.

Thank you. Anquan didn't fire Rosenhaus because he was getting in the way of making a deal. It was because Q thinks Rosenhaus wasn't capable of getting the deal he thinks he deserves.

Rosenhaus works for Anquan, not vice versa. If Drew was doing anything out of line that falls on Q.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

You can take what ever your want from it, but I will wait to see his next move. I think Drew has more influence on players than you think. Otherwise, a lot of WR's in the NFL have the exact same personalities.

Do you really want me to name the dozens of NFL players represented by Rosenhaus who keep their mouths shut and go about their business every day?

Drew is hardball tactician without a doubt, but it's not like he locks players in their rooms so they can't go to minicamp or writes whiny scripts his players can use as trade demands on talk radio shows.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

Do you really want me to name the dozens of NFL players represented by Rosenhaus who keep their mouths shut and go about their business every day?

Drew is hardball tactician without a doubt, but it's not like he locks players in their rooms so they can't go to minicamp or writes whiny scripts his players can use as trade demands on talk radio shows.

No but he does give his players advice and we all know the advice he gives his clients. These guys hire these guys for their advice. I agree that Q needs to be held accountable for the remarks he made and the actions he took to get us here but to say this was all Q's doing is wrong. He HIRED Drew for the advice that Drew gives for a new contract. Didn't work so Drew got fired. If the new agent comes in and says that he has another way of doing business, Q listens to that guy and see if that works.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Teams are not afraid of dealing with Drew. Not even a little bit. Heck even the Cards signed two of his players this past offseason. If they were afraid then he wouldnt have the most active contracts in the league, 94 in all. by a pretty wide margin I might add.

where did i say teams were afraid? Teams can't control who a players agent is so your rational makes little sense in regards to what i said. If he represents the most players then it's likely he'll have the most players signed. That doesn't mean teams like dealing with him and,all things being equal, would prefer someone else. The Eagles have had the bad Owens fiasco with Rosenhuas.To think that doesn't enter in their thinking is being short sighted. Graves has said DR can be a pain in the butt to deal with.Unless teams adopt a policy, like the Chicago White Sox,who won't deal/draft with Scott Boras agents, you'll have to eventually deal with Drew.

 

[chickenhead]

Really it just means that Q is altering his strategy. Fine with me, I'm tired of the old strategy and wasn't looking forward to another year or two of it. Whether perception or reality, hopefully this will spark some goodwill on both sides and get something done.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Really it just means that Q is altering his strategy. Fine with me, I'm tired of the old strategy and wasn't looking forward to another year or two of it. Whether perception or reality, hopefully this will spark some goodwill on both sides and get something done.

Bingo



or maybe "winner winner chicken dinner" is more appropriate

 

[joeshmo]

where did i say teams were afraid? Teams can't control who a players agent is so your rational makes little sense in regards to what i said. If he represents the most players then it's likely he'll have the most players signed. That doesn't mean teams like dealing with him and,all things being equal, would prefer someone else. The Eagles have had the bad Owens fiasco with Rosenhuas.To think that doesn't enter in their thinking is being short sighted. Graves has said DR can be a pain in the butt to deal with.Unless teams adopt a policy, like the Chicago White Sox,who won't deal/draft with Scott Boras agents, you'll have to eventually deal with Drew.

Afraid, reservations, talk about splitting hairs its all the same thing.

Cards had issues with Boldin and Dockett before they signed two more Drew Clients this offseason. It didnt enter their minds at all, because like Graves and Drew said it a business and you have to take each a case by case basis. Drew hasnt had any more or less contract disputes then any other agency firm or agent. We just here more about Drew becuase he has more high profile clients. The only tactic that Drew uses more then other agents is the Media, other then that all other agents use the same tactics we just dont here about it. I know this to be a fact, teams are not afraid or have reservations when it comes to dealing with Drew, because what the casual fan doesnt know despite the headaches he might give out to the media the Contracts that Drew gets for his clients are actually very good contracts for the team, see the Boldin and Dockett contracts they are now unhappy about, and various other contracts that players are unhappy with that Drew gets for them only a few years into them.

 

[joeshmo]

this was all Q's doing is wrong.

The ultimate decision is Q's, and it doesnt matter where he got advice from, he made the decisions to follow that advice.

Blame always lays at the feet of the person making the ultimate decision. I make choices every day based on advice I get, but my choices are my own, just like everyone else.

 

[joeshmo]

Boldin has had 4 agents so far. Has no problem firing them. Quit blaming Rosenhaus. He's the puppet. Boldin is the puppet master.

Good thing I read before I posted. Was just about to talk about his 4 agents in 7 years.

 

[MastersofCombat]

+ 1 Boldin good move perception = greed simply by having Drew as your swindler err agent.
You still deserve good money but your actions from this point forward really will show alot about you. Every Card fan here hopes you take the right steps no matter how it turns out. Just stay or leave with class

 

[Carddan]

Boldin has fired agents before, that indicates that he has high expectations of them. Drew negotiated the contract that Boldin is now unhappy with. When the Cardinals attempted to renegotiate, Drew said to wait until after the Fitz deal. This seems to have been a mistake, but is the kind of advice I expect a player to follow. Then Q felt lied to, sat out OTAs, questioned if he would show up for Training Camp, criticized the Coach publicly, missed most of camp with a hamstring injury and said he would never sign another contract with the Cardinals. Somewhere along the way he also played his heart out, came back quickly from a serious injury, argued with Haley on the sideline and didn't participate in the post-game celebration.
Drew made public statements that Q would be traded prior to or during the draft. I'm sure he told Boldin the same thing. He was wrong, again. Boldin has said he doesn't think the Cardinals seriously tried to trade him, I don't think any teams made an offer serious enough to accept.
It looks to me like Drew was wrong about several things he told Q would happen. As a result, Q fired him. Next step? Who knows? I hold Boldin resposible for the course that was followed, but when it became clear his agent's advice wasn't working, he fired the agent.

 

[AZ Native]

Q - Dr + All Is Good

 

[Totally_Red]

Michael Smith was on ESPN (via telephone) last night. Basically said that some in the Cardinals camp were questioning whether everything they were saying to the 'intermediary' was being passed along to Q. Also said there is virtually no chance he'll be traded at this point.

 

[TJ]

Really it just means that Q is altering his strategy. Fine with me, I'm tired of the old strategy and wasn't looking forward to another year or two of it. Whether perception or reality, hopefully this will spark some goodwill on both sides and get something done.

IMO Rosenhaus's shtick is getting old. He's been an agent for so long and rubbed so many people the wrong way that he has become predictable to most GMs. That's why we're seeing more teams call his bluff and that is where his game plan ends.

I always think back to the Poston Brothers and their aggressive negotiating skills. Yes, they were capable of pulling rabbits out of hats for most of their clients, but their tactics became antequated over time. Even one of them, Carl, got suspended for two years by the NFLPA for a dispute with LaVar Arrington. I'm not sure who they represent anymore, just that after that fiasco, some players fired them as their agent, like Orlando Pace.

 

[PDXChris]

The question it, if Q gets a new contract in the near future, does Ocho Cinco fire Rosenhaus too?