Anyone watching Jeremy Lin?

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Its one of the most entertaining stories of the season. The kid has had two amazing ga.mrs in a row. He is fun to watch and has a little Nash in the way he moves. Hes a good defender and a poor shooter so that explains why Dsntoni hsd him buried and will do so again. Hes smart snd looks liked he figured out how to run the p&r with Chandler
 

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Watched his 8-9 minute highlight clips on youtube of his games vs the Nets and Jazz, definitely entertaining to watch! He seems to have pretty good court vision and has shown a great ability to drive to the basket and finish around the rim in those two games. I will be keeping an eye on him and checking out any Knicks games that get televised, hard not to root for him!
 

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I've seen Jeremy Lin play before and he has always caught my attention. I wonder if Lance Blanks has ever seen him play. :rolleyes:
 

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Of course 'Antoni proceeds to "ride him like Secretariat." Playing him 45 minutes, when he's barely even used to ten minutes a game.

Awesome story though. Got me interested in the NBA again, somewhat.
 

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He does move a LOT like Nash. Seems to have the same instincts and passing ability as well. Can he shoot?
 

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I think Knick fans are idiots, they would start chanting MVP MVP for an 80 year old guy in a walker if he had 3 straight assists.

Lin is an okay player who isn't a great shooter, isn't very athletic, has intellligence and he played well against the Nets and the Jazz. If Knicks fans think he is the next Nash they might as well just end their lives. As for Lin, he's going to get overplayed and abused by D'Antoni now and that will finish him off.

All that said, I'd take him over Telfair any day of the week.
 
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Details So Elias says Jeremy Lin (28 points, eight assists) had the most points/assists in first career start since (gulp) Isiah in '81.

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_SI
Details Jeremy Lin has attempted 9.3 free throws per 36 minutes this season. Among rotation players, only LeBron and D-12 average more. #Linsanity

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_SI
Details Jeremy Lin has assisted on 47.2% of NYK's baskets while on the court. Among rotation players, only Steve Nash his a higher mark. #Linsanity

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_SI
Details People: Saying Lin's numbers come from a small sample size is the same thing as saying "Duh." We know. Everyone knows.

:)
 
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He does move a LOT like Nash. Seems to have the same instincts and passing ability as well. Can he shoot?

He moves like Nash, he does NOT shoot like Nash. His jump shot is inconsistent, but he is quite creative around the basket and has a very quick first step. That is what is intriguing. He does not do alot of faking etc. He just waits for a small opening and darts through it. He seems to have very good court vision and seems to get the hang of the pick and roll with Chandler.

He has trouble going to his left and does not do it often. Once the scouting report gets out on him, this might cause him problems. He is a very good defender, especially against small quick guards.

So, yes, in some ways he reminds of Nash, in others he is quite different.

HOnestly, the combination of things makes him more like Rondo than Nash.

Good defense and poor shooting. That's once of the surest ways to get DAntoni to ignore you.
 

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Reminds me a lof of Dragic with a little better court vision. Not a great shooter, pretty good passer, fearless at attacking the rim, but can only drive one way. There won't be too many more 25-point games once defenders get a decent amount of tape on him.
 
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Its one of the most entertaining stories of the season. The kid has had two amazing ga.mrs in a row. He is fun to watch and has a little Nash in the way he moves. Hes a good defender and a poor shooter so that explains why Dsntoni hsd him buried and will do so again. Hes smart snd looks liked he figured out how to run the p&r with Chandler

Was really fun to watch. That's for sure.
 

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Lin's most quality is his court smarts with efficient moves on both offense and defense. His handle and lob passes, and particularly shooting, have quite some room for improvement. But he has the rare ability to keep the handle alive in traffic. He doesn't look very athletic or quick, but with great body control and hesitation moves, he manages to be just quicker than the defense. He is much stronger than Nash at finishing around the basket, with a lot of and-1's.

His defense is also non-spectacular but effective. He is not the hounding defender like Paul, Dragic, Tony Allen can be. But he manages to stay in front of his guy, recover quick once lost a step or so, and always be an interruptive presence that make the job of opposing PG hard. He actually shut down DWill and DHarris in the two wins. He often has the tendency like Nash to roam into the paint to help, but is a lot quicker at recovering.

With expected skill improvement on handle, shooting and passing, as well as enough seasoning, I believe he will be better than Dragic at the least and a cross between Rondo and Nash with the most optimistic estimation.
 

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WSJ on Linsanity

Harvard graduates have spent the last 300 years conquering the Manhattan job market. They've been doctors and lawyers and bankers and senators. One of them, however, did something this week that they've never managed to do before. He saved the Knicks' season.

.Jeremy Lin, the 23-year-old Knicks guard, has ascended from afterthought to New York folk hero in half a week. He is now the Knicks' starting point guard, leading them to two straight wins and scoring 25 and 28 points, respectively, this after topping 10 points just twice in a two-year career. He's also combined for 15 assists in the two games—no other Knick is averaging more than 4.2 assists per game this season. Just 19 days ago, Lin was playing a game for the Erie Bayhawks of the NBA's Developmental League.

Conventional wisdom pegs Lin's recent success as inexplicable. He was undrafted, has been released by two other teams, is rail skinny and before this week, he'd been considered a novelty who many assumed survived with only a Harvard-educated basketball I.Q. But here's the unusual twist in Lin's story: His success has little to do with smarts. He is, according to players, virtually unguardable.

Those who have defended him say that Lin has an extremely rare arsenal of moves—the byproduct of posture, bent knees and peculiar fundamentals. And while being a dribbling expert sounds as exciting as being a chef who specializes in porridge, Lin has made it a devastating art. Knicks guard Iman Shumpert, who first guarded Lin during lockout exhibition games and now does in practice, said his possessions play out like this: When he's close to the basket, he starts an "in-and-out" dribble with his knees bent and his arm straight forward, creating the idea he can go inside or outside—and he does both. All of this is combined with what Jerome Jordan calls a "lethal first step." Lin is, in short, the NBA's undetectable star.

."He's got these moves—he's so fast and he's not playing high, he's playing so low that he's attacking your knees with this dribble. It's in a place where as soon as you make a move he just blows past you," Shumpert said. "To be that low, to have it that far out with your arms, it's pretty rare. I've never seen it."

Shumpert, known as a good defender, said there's nothing you can do to take his dribble away and he does not let up. Lin has other moves, with teammates praising his crossover dribble. When he uses these moves to get to the basket (and he always gets there), he does one of three things: finishes at the rim; passes to center Tyson Chandler, who will be open due to the defense collapsing on Lin; or finding an outside shooter, who are the most open of all due to Lin's penetration.

"It's the quickness that's low to the ground. I'm not saying he's like [Bulls guard] Derrick Rose or anything, but when you watch D-Rose closely, he's low to the ground and when you're that low and that fast, you see [Lin's success]," said Bill Walker.

Lin, who holds an economics degree, said he spent most of his summers working on dribbling, but cannot pinpoint when he developed the stealth movements he's burning the league with. "I'm working on trying to make it more deceptive," Lin said.

Lin's actual genius is that he does things the rest of the Knicks do not do. While star Carmelo Anthony's game focuses on long shots, Lin drives to the rim consistently for high-percentage shots. Anthony's performance on Saturday, when Lin became a sensation, was a case study in inefficiency. Anthony took just two shots at the rim and made both, according to hoopdata.com. He took seven from 16-23 feet and missed all of them. Lin took eight shots at the rim and made six of them. In Monday's win against Utah, he took seven shots at the rim and made six of them. Lin's role will only increase. On Tuesday, Anthony was ruled out for one-to-two weeks with a groin injury, and Amar'e Stoudemrie said he'd take more time off in the wake of his brother's death.

Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni said that in a pre-draft workout two years ago, Lin showed a "nice gait" and a burst of speed, but not enough to draft him.

"I didn't know he could play defense, I didn't know he could shoot well enough, and I didn't think he'd go up and finish," D'Antoni said. "So, I'm going, 'Can't finish, can't shoot, can't play defense, I like his speed but I don't know.' Until we saw it."

The team is most giddy about Lin's ability to run the point. Chandler said the pick-and-roll play Lin runs is among the top 3 he's experienced in his career. D'Antoni said he was most impressed on Monday when Shumpert was standing in front of sharpshooter Steve Novak near the 3-point line—Lin yelled for Shumpert to get out of the way and passed the ball to Novak, who made the three. "You can't explain the game all the time and he knows the game," D'Antoni said.

"I don't want to get too far ahead but I am excited. He does give us the semblance of a team that can move the ball and get good shots," D'Antoni said. "It's fun. You can actually draw a play up and go, 'Hey, this might work'. He's smart. He's a playmaker."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... AAndKnicks
 
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He is certainly looking like he has the game to be a starting pg on a good team. Not the star, mind you, but a quality starter that could facilitate for stars around him.

The problem on the Knicks team is Carmelo.
 

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He is certainly looking like he has the game to be a starting pg on a good team. Not the star, mind you, but a quality starter that could facilitate for stars around him.

The problem on the Knicks team is Carmelo.

Yeah, Melo is out 1-2 weeks. Watch the knicks play better team ball, and win more games! Melo is a great scorer, but doesn't play a lot of D, and the offense stagnates a lot when he gets the ball.
 

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Another very good game by him. I dont expect him to play at this level all year but he looks like a solid player with some nice skills. I hope the Suns do their diligence and scout him, the Knicks certainly will not be able to retain him at the rate he is playing.
 

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Where did this guy come from? I read that they were about to waive him and now he is putting up 20/10 three games in a row. I almost picked him up in my fantasy leagues but then I thought, no way he keeps this up. He is proving me wrong.
 

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It's crazy that Golden State let him go. He was a huge draw for their asian demographic and a great insurance policy for Curry and his bum ankle.
 

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I'm still waiting for him to do something against a better team. Nets, Jazz, and Wizards isn't cutting it for me. He does have smarts and I wish our GM had some brains, instead we have Sebastian Freaking Telfair and Shannon BlackHole Brown
 

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I wish our GM had some brains, instead we have Sebastian Freaking Telfair.
Yeah but a lot of teams slept on this guy. The Knicks too were about to give up on him.
 

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Yeah but a lot of teams slept on this guy. The Knicks too were about to give up on him.

True. I don't think anyone knew he was a serviceable guard. I think even if he was Sarvar would pass on him. *******.
 

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I'm still waiting for him to do something against a better team. Nets, Jazz, and Wizards isn't cutting it for me. He does have smarts and I wish our GM had some brains, instead we have Sebastian Freaking Telfair and Shannon BlackHole Brown

I was about to say "why" but actually I have some concerns also. I'm not so much worried about how he'll do against good teams as I am about how he'll do against ANY team that prepares for him. He has to develop a shot and until he does he will be easy to shut down any time a team is determined to do so. He doesn't have to be a great shooter such as Steve Nash is, but he needs to be in the Jason Kidd class or his days of playing quality minutes will be a thing of the past.

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I'm still waiting for him to do something against a better team. Nets, Jazz, and Wizards isn't cutting it for me. He does have smarts and I wish our GM had some brains, instead we have Sebastian Freaking Telfair and Shannon BlackHole Brown

I think they play the Lakers tomorrow night. Game may be on ESPN. I haven't watched him yet so this might be a good game to catch.
 
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