Are you all still sold on Palmer?

[eastcoastSUN]

IF Palmer decides to unexpectedly make an exit (a la Warner) during the offseason, I could see us going after Cutler.

That would set the franchise back 10 years and lead to a BA dismissal after one year.

 

[unseenaz]

palmer is our guy. he is one tough SOB and today the o-line gave him absolutely nothing to work with.

he has given this team blood sweat and tears (and probably a couple years of those legs) we owe it to him to ride with him

 

[Dude]

palmer is our guy. he is one tough SOB and today the o-line gave him absolutely nothing to work with.

he has given this team blood sweat and tears (and probably a couple years of those legs) we owe it to him to ride with him

I agree with all but the we owe it to anyone. I want a mobile QB. In today's NFL you can't pay everyone big money. We have good players and a good team. We can't buy an O line we better get a QB that can move.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I hear you all regarding Romo, but still I think he is the right QB for us over while we still have the good players we have over the next 3-4 yrs. He is the only QB I know of who 4 out of 5 of his last full seasons has averaged 4000 yds per season, 30 TDs w/ 10 or less interceptions. Unlike you all, if his doc says he is healed and well, I honestly believe he has a few seasons left in him like the ones I have mentioned. He is very mobile compared to Palmer, who I think will only get worse in the next year or two.

We have arguably the best RB in the league, and it will be a crying shame to have such a talent and still not be able to build a top team around him, ending up like Minnesota with Peterson or the Chargers with Tomlinson. To continue to use him to compliment your passing game will be a shame. We should build a line like Dallas and run the ball down everyone's throat. We need simply an extremely accurate passer who can burn defenses over the top of their LBs when they overplay the run. We don't need a big armed QB to throw it deep so often. A control type offense, who never turns the ball over, and great D, like the Chiefs have developed, is what I would like to see from our team.

Maybe Arians is not the coach for that kind of team. He seems to much of a risk taker.

Someone suggest some good run first coaches that might be available in the next year or two.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Ohh and SBF, stop making threads.

you would rather have threads that get 2,3,or 4 total posts? there are plenty of those for you if you don't care for the controversial ones.

 

[ajcardfan]

I think both the WRs and Oline, as units, have been much more disappointing than Palmer. Floyd fails to finish a route and instead of fighting for the ball, it's an easy INT for Minny. JJ Nelson has two critical drops. John Brown isn't getting open. Fitz is really the only consistent WR this year and Minny started doubling him as the game went on.

The oline was so bad on several plays, they made four man rushes look like a jailbreak blitz had been called because two or even three guys were coming free or just bowling over Wetzel and/or the guards.

Yeah, we can look for a QB of course. But, if we continue to get this kind of play from the offense besides Johnson and Fitz, it won't matter a lick.

 

[Buckybird]

I hear you all regarding Romo, but still I think he is the right QB for us over while we still have the good players we have over the next 3-4 yrs. He is the only QB I know of who 4 out of 5 of his last full seasons has averaged 4000 yds per season, 30 TDs w/ 10 or less interceptions. Unlike you all, if his doc says he is healed and well, I honestly believe he has a few seasons left in him like the ones I have mentioned. He is very mobile compared to Palmer, who I think will only get worse in the next year or two.

We have arguably the best RB in the league, and it will be a crying shame to have such a talent and still not be able to build a top team around him, ending up like Minnesota with Peterson or the Chargers with Tomlinson. To continue to use him to compliment your passing game will be a shame. We should build a line like Dallas and run the ball down everyone's throat. We need simply an extremely accurate passer who can burn defenses over the top of their LBs when they overplay the run. We don't need a big armed QB to throw it deep so often. A control type offense, who never turns the ball over, and great D, like the Chiefs have developed, is what I would like to see from our team.

Maybe Arians is not the coach for that kind of team. He seems to much of a risk taker.

Someone suggest some good run first coaches that might be available in the next year or two.

Dude give it up with the Romo BS.

Did you watch Palmer get hit 24 times yestrday? Romo wouldn't make it thru preseason with this Oline nuff said

 

[GatorAZ]

Keim is signing the NC State QB Glennon. He'll sit behind Palmer for a year then take over.

 

[Covert Rain]

Dude give it up with the Romo BS.

Did you watch Palmer get hit 24 times yestrday? Romo wouldn't make it thru preseason with this Oline nuff said

Exactly on. Romo wouldn't have made it through yesterday's game without exiting on his back and being out for probably the rest of the season. Dude is damaged goods and with this line you simply know it's WHEN not if.

 

[Russ Smith]

They just talked about Romo on Mike and Mike. He apparently is interested in Denver. they said the Cards would seem a logical option and McNabb started laughing and said you got a guy who can't stay healthy and you want to put him behind that OL in a system that guarantees the QB is going to get hit repeatedly? he said Palmer looks old right now but so would lots of QB's in that system.

Again Arians system is part of the issue here, the constant push the ball downfield is part of why the Wr's and OL look so bad and it's resulting in Palmer looking like he has. When nobody is open in this offense the QB gets killed because there usually isn't an underneath option other than DJ. We don't use the TE, we often don't have a TE on the field.

Romo was a great QB not that long ago but 2 major back injuries don't bode well for his future.

 

[overseascardfan]

Extensions mean nothing in the NFL just spreading salary, can cut and run most contracts at anytime. With that being said Palmer is the least of this teams concerns! Still one on the best players on the field on offense!

Uh yeah, you can cut players but unless an extension is paid up front cutting a player under contract usually involves the creation of "dead cap space" when it could have been avoided by simply letting the contract expire. Worse case he became a FA and ARZ could re-sign him if necessary....it's not like another team would being willing to outbid us for him.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

They just talked about Romo on Mike and Mike. He apparently is interested in Denver. they said the Cards would seem a logical option and McNabb started laughing and said you got a guy who can't stay healthy and you want to put him behind that OL in a system that guarantees the QB is going to get hit repeatedly? he said Palmer looks old right now but so would lots of QB's in that system.

Again Arians system is part of the issue here, the constant push the ball downfield is part of why the Wr's and OL look so bad and it's resulting in Palmer looking like he has. When nobody is open in this offense the QB gets killed because there usually isn't an underneath option other than DJ. We don't use the TE, we often don't have a TE on the field.

Romo was a great QB not that long ago but 2 major back injuries don't bode well for his future.

THis! Behind that patchwork Oline you cant expect any success from any QB at this point. Ive got no real problems with Palmer other than taking sacks for loss instead of throwing it away. When Palmer has the time he delivers. The Oline has to do their part.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

They just talked about Romo on Mike and Mike. He apparently is interested in Denver. they said the Cards would seem a logical option and McNabb started laughing and said you got a guy who can't stay healthy and you want to put him behind that OL in a system that guarantees the QB is going to get hit repeatedly? he said Palmer looks old right now but so would lots of QB's in that system.

Bird science? Your forming an opinion based on bird science?

 

[Jetstream Green]

you would rather have threads that get 2,3,or 4 total posts? there are plenty of those for you if you don't care for the controversial ones.

I would prefer posts which are logical regardless of how many responses

 

[mjb21aztd]

Whatever kind of season the cards finish with I still like palmer as the cards qb for at least two more seasons.

And hopefully we find a qb in fa or the draft to take over when palmer retires.....

Will be a fun draft and off season

Go Cards!

 

[oaken1]

IF Palmer decides to unexpectedly make an exit (a la Warner) during the offseason, I could see us going after Cutler.

That would set the franchise back 10 years and lead to a BA dismissal after one year.

IMO that would be the only way we can be sure the birds will draft a QB in the first or second round... since we are likely drafting in the top ten either pick should get us a quality qb

 

[cardncubfan]

you would rather have threads that get 2,3,or 4 total posts? there are plenty of those for you if you don't care for the controversial ones.

You keep being you SissyBoy. Don't let the haters persuade you in to being something you're not. TJ should know better.

 

[cardncubfan]

I would prefer posts which are logical regardless of how many responses

You can always not click on the thread.

 

[Darkside]

Come on, his days are long gone. Lets admit it. Go get Romo now.

The Romo thing you keep espousing is stupid. It's not just football stupid, it's rationale type stupid.

The question is if we're still sold on Palmer, and the answer is simple: we have no other choice in the immediate future. He's a good to above average QB, but he isn't taking us to the SB. His best year was last year in 15 and he fell apart in the NFC Championship. I don't even care why, he fell apart. It's what he does in huge games. Consistently. I hate saying that about a dude, and Palmer, from what I think we all can determine, is a decent, nice guy. Not everyone wins the big ones. Dan Marino never freaking won one. Fran Tarkenton never won one. Dan Fouts never won one. There are others. He's not as good as those QB's.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The Romo thing you keep espousing is stupid. It's not just football stupid, it's rationale type stupid.

The question is if we're still sold on Palmer, and the answer is simple: we have no other choice in the immediate future. He's a good to above average QB, but he isn't taking us to the SB. His best year was last year in 15 and he fell apart in the NFC Championship. I don't even care why, he fell apart. It's what he does in huge games. Consistently. I hate saying that about a dude, and Palmer, from what I think we all can determine, is a decent, nice guy. Not everyone wins the big ones. Dan Marino never freaking won one. Fran Tarkenton never won one. Dan Fouts never won one. There are others. He's not as good as those QB's.

And the funny thing is that Romo falls apart too in a playoff atmosphere

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Palmer is not the problem with this offense right now.

 

[juza76]

Palmer is not the problem with this offense right now.

Palmer is the leader of the offense

All teams are plagued with injuries but the good ones overcome

Palmer is a good player, not a winner, he can lead us to the playoff but he is not the one who can take u to the superbowl
Not with his plays for sure

 

[Russ Smith]

Bird science? Your forming an opinion based on bird science?

No I'm stating what someone said. For the record I think Romo having had TWO major back injuries in a short time would not fare well in our offense that demands throwing the ball downfield and with no help for the OL. If Romo had started Sunday for us, Palmer would have finished the game because Romo would have been knocked out again.

Was a great player but he can't stay healthy anymore

 

[overseascardfan]

Palmer is not the problem with this offense right now.

The turnovers (strip sack/fumbles/INTs) are him. You can argue receivers running wrong routes or are being held but you don't throw into double coverage near the end zone. Jay Taylor on 12 Sports mentioned something I've been screaming about for a long time, if the rushers are getting to you before receivers get open....THROW THE DAMN BALL AWAY!!!!! Don't take the sack because then you have to keep passing because your put in 2nd/3rd and longs.

 

[Jim Otis]

THis! Behind that patchwork Oline you cant expect any success from any QB at this point. Ive got no real problems with Palmer other than taking sacks for loss instead of throwing it away. When Palmer has the time he delivers. The Oline has to do their part.

I agree with your post , but if Palmer throws it away every time he is threatened with a sack , I fear that would lead to a lot of three and out's and lots of losses !!!!