Arians and His Stupid Ego

[az240zz]

Both my son and I thought that he should have gone for the td on 1st down..but since he didn't that he should have run the clock.... Also they were having success in the middle of the field, perhaps that's where the throw should have gone..

 

[TRW]

"Bad" playcalling aside, that game is a CLASSIC!

What a wild ride all game long. I haven't been up past midnight in a long, long time!

NEXT!!!

 

[PACardsFan]

BA has made it very clear that he'll do it his way from here on out. He was fired in Pittsburgh because he wouldn't run the ball on 3rd & 1, plus his calls apparently left Ben exposed to big hits? That's funny, but isn't Ben still exposed to big hits?? As BA has so eloquently stated "no risk it, no biscuit". My feeling is that we will either win in exciting fashion or we will experience a heartbreaking loss. Because that's Arian's way.

 

[Russ Smith]

This is all based off of what happened after that 2nd down call, but if he goes the conservative route it could very well have completely changed the way that GB possession went down to begin with. For starters if the Packers get the ball with less time on the clock than they have a higher sense of urgency to get down field from the very first play.

Right they're going to be trying the hail mary earlier which means the defense is fresh and the defense knows they have to throw it earlier. It still might work they let them get away with a blatant penalty in the endzone as it was.

But 40 extra seconds is huge on a drive at the end of the game without Timeouts.

He's a great coach, hes' not perfect. If you throw it there you are doing knowing you are taking a huge risk

 

[Russ Smith]

I say it was a great play call and refs embarrassingly missed an illegal contact call. The guy decked fitz a good 10 yards down field. That should have been game right there.

The ball wasn't catchable and the DB is allowed to cut off the WR.

 

[Goldfield]

It was a bad call period. Up a td and Rodgers 9n the other side you run the ball first and run the clock.

 

[football karma]

I'm actually was more angry at Arians for overruling Bettcher's call of just playing prevent on the Hail Mary.

I know it's our mojo, but bringing an all-out blitz on that Hail Mary to a QB like Rodgers was the dumbest decision of the season & it nearly cost us.

I don't mind Blitz: I mind sending 7

That feels reckless to me-- Send 5? Great. Send 6? Ballsy.

Flip things around: If the Cards needed a Hail Mary to win a game, would you rather have one on one coverage in the end zone, or 6 DBs?

I think we would consider one on one coverage to be a gift.

I think the Cards have a top 3 HC, but that doesn't mean he is infallible.

 

[az jam]

BA sure makes the games exciting with his play calling. Remember that QBs that played under him love him.

 

[Finito]

Thank God we won!! I watched the game with 3 Steeler fans. They all agreed that what you're bitching about is exactly why the Steelers eventually let him go.

Oh I'm sorry didn't they win a championship with him?

 

[Azlen]

BA sure makes the games exciting with his play calling. Remember that QBs that played under him love him.

That's the thing for people to remember. When he takes those kind of risks, what he is telling his players is that he believes in them. Players love that. That being said, if he wanted to throw it there, I wish he would have called the shovel pass to Larry at that point and avoided the need for it later on.

 

[PACardsFan]

Oh I'm sorry didn't they win a championship with him?

Didn't matter to the Steelers, they always win championships. This isn't a secret. BA has alluded to it many times. Did you watch a Football Life? The Steelers loved him, but tired of BA doing it "his" way. He loves being the HC, because now he can do whatever he wants to do for as long as he's the coach.

 

[Azlen]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-bruce-arians-got-win-mike-mccarthy-learn-nfl

It didn't cost the Cardinals the game, but for a minute there, it sure looked like Bruce Arians had gotten Arizona into all kinds of trouble. Before the coin tosses, before the Larry Fitzgerald catch-and-run to start overtime, and before the game-winning shovel pass, there were three minutes of despair for Cardinals fans, when appeared their head coach might have cost them the game.
To some, it might have seemed inexplicable. If you pay close attention to Arians, though, his decisions late in the fourth quarter characterized a level of aggressiveness which has come to define his tenure in Arizona.
Arians is not selectively aggressive or a smidge more aggressive than your typical coach or aggressive when he wants to be. Arians is aggressive as a point of principle, as a tenet of his coaching philosophy. He coaches the way you might coach when you were all but run out of the league as a coordinator into retirement at age 59, only to miraculously become a head coach at 61. Arians coaches like he has nothing to lose. Not only is it admirable, I'm not sure that it's really all that wrong.

 

[oaken1]

BA Coaches like I used to play Madden... in Madden,...it worked for me 99% of the time....in the real world the stats will be a bit lower

I absolutely love it when the plays work.... not going to hate on the coach because a play failed...

The execution was not perfect.... if Larry catches that pass, and then drops a good stiff arm,... he is off to the house.........if asked, how many of us would take Larry Fitzgerald in single coverage to win the game?
we have a top 10 QB teamed up with the biggest beast of a WR to ever play in the NFL post season,...give'em the damn ball

 

[BullheadCardFan]

If that play works everyone says wow what a great play completely caught them off guard

By the way that PI you can't just push a WR out of bounds

Ballsy call from BA. I would have run the ball for sure.

Could have been a PI but since the ball wasn't catchable we didn't get the call.

BA is all about going for it and not playing prevent offense. How about telling that to defense?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Ballsy call from BA. I would have run the ball for sure.

Could have been a PI but since the ball wasn't catchable we didn't get the call.

BA is all about going for it and not playing prevent offense. How about telling that to defense?

Would have been catchable if Fitz didn't get ridden out of bounds.

 

[PACardsFan]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-bruce-arians-got-win-mike-mccarthy-learn-nfl

It didn't cost the Cardinals the game, but for a minute there, it sure looked like Bruce Arians had gotten Arizona into all kinds of trouble. Before the coin tosses, before the Larry Fitzgerald catch-and-run to start overtime, and before the game-winning shovel pass, there were three minutes of despair for Cardinals fans, when appeared their head coach might have cost them the game.
To some, it might have seemed inexplicable. If you pay close attention to Arians, though, his decisions late in the fourth quarter characterized a level of aggressiveness which has come to define his tenure in Arizona.
Arians is not selectively aggressive or a smidge more aggressive than your typical coach or aggressive when he wants to be. Arians is aggressive as a point of principle, as a tenet of his coaching philosophy. He coaches the way you might coach when you were all but run out of the league as a coordinator into retirement at age 59, only to miraculously become a head coach at 61. Arians coaches like he has nothing to lose. Not only is it admirable, I'm not sure that it's really all that wrong.

I agree wholeheartedly, but when you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Let us bask in the glory of winning last night by taking some huge risks. But, on the other side of the coin, we will experience some agony with some of his risk taking too. As a 50+ year Cardinal fan, BA has brought us to rarified air, so I'll take it. No risk it, no biscuit

 

[Crimson Warrior]

No way it was a bad call. Even if we run it 3 times the Packers are still going to get the ball back with over 1 minute left and with Rogers that is no gimme for us. We had the perfect timing to end the game right there. I was thinking right before the play that the ideal thing would be go for the TD and not rely on our D to stop Rogers.

If we would have already been under 2 minutes I would agree with you. But when you are still having to give the ball back to Rogers with more than a minute left, I would rather put it out of reach if you had the chance.

There you go. .right there.

That's why the OP is pretty ridiculous. sorry Stout.

You, Conrad and Ed man.. acting like you know better than the coach of the year. lol.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

“I play to win,” Arians said.

Arians said the decision to blitz on the Hail Mary is his. Cardinals defensive coordinator James Bettcher was planning to go into the typical prevent defense that teams use on Hail Mary attempts, and Arians overruled him.

“Most teams play the prevent,” Arians said. “That’s what Betch was going to play. I said, ‘Hell no. Blitz him. [Aaron Rodgers] made a great throw. I thought that Calais [Campbell] was held, but it still ended up being a touchdown.”

Link.

 

[AZ Native]

Link.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ruce-arians-on-aggressive-calls-i-play-to-win

 

[ajcardfan]

Loved the call. No way I'm bitching about Arians. His philosophy got us to this place, you can take it or leave it. Personally, I take it.

 

[conraddobler]

I don't agree at all about Arian's decisions here.

The correct call is the one that helps our team the most and hurts the other team the most.

There are cases where coaches chicken out and don't do what needs to be done because of fear in that case I think we never have to worry about Arian's doing that which is great.

However it goes too far when he does things that start fighting math.

The math on this one was absolute.

That hail Mary never happens if he doesn't do something stupid like throw there. You all are good with this now but if it costs us a NFC championship or Super Bowl you will not be good with it.

It's a fine line and if he were to do something ballsey that fails I won't jump on him for that but math is math, no excuses for not knowing math.

 

[ajcardfan]

That hail Mary never happens if he doesn't do something stupid like throw there. You all are good with this now but if it costs us a NFC championship or Super Bowl you will not be good with it.

Don't speak for me. I love the go for the throat mentality. Win or lose next week, I wouldn't bitch about any aggressive call he makes.

 

[PDXChris]

I don't agree at all about Arian's decisions here.

The correct call is the one that helps our team the most and hurts the other team the most.

There are cases where coaches chicken out and don't do what needs to be done because of fear in that case I think we never have to worry about Arian's doing that which is great.

However it goes too far when he does things that start fighting math.

The math on this one was absolute.

That hail Mary never happens if he doesn't do something stupid like throw there. You all are good with this now but if it costs us a NFC championship or Super Bowl you will not be good with it.

It's a fine line and if he were to do something ballsey that fails I won't jump on him for that but math is math, no excuses for not knowing math.

So, what if Johnson fumbles and we are up by only 4 and the Packers win? There are too many what ifs in Football to say math rules all. Arians put in the best position to win by giving us home field and a lead that late in the game. That is why he is the head coach and not any of us. You don't second guess a leader who has shown time and time again he is smarter than all of us at what he does for a living.

 

[GatorAZ]

I don't agree at all about Arian's decisions here.

The correct call is the one that helps our team the most and hurts the other team the most.

There are cases where coaches chicken out and don't do what needs to be done because of fear in that case I think we never have to worry about Arian's doing that which is great.

However it goes too far when he does things that start fighting math.

The math on this one was absolute.

That hail Mary never happens if he doesn't do something stupid like throw there. You all are good with this now but if it costs us a NFC championship or Super Bowl you will not be good with it.

It's a fine line and if he were to do something ballsey that fails I won't jump on him for that but math is math, no excuses for not knowing math.

+1

Not only was it a poor decision to throw but the play design also sucked. Maybe Capers new it was coming based on BA's reputation.

 

[ajcardfan]

So, what if Johnson fumbles and we are up by only 4 and the Packers win? There are too many what ifs in Football to say math rules all. Arians put in the best position to win by giving us home field and a lead that late in the game. That is why he is the head coach and not any of us. You don't second guess a leader who has shown time and time again he is smarter than all of us at what he does for a living.

Yeah, football isn't math. The math told Cincy to run, they did, and Hill fumbled. You never, ever really know what would've happened, and anyone claiming that a run there would've iced the game is talking out of their blowhole. I