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It has been so refreshing and encouraging to see a clear and decisive off-season plan at work---to see the FO and the coaching staff working in unison to make what they are now calling "Cardinal decisions."

There's a special kind of diligence going on---and with each move it is becoming more and more clear what the new team philosophy is.

The free agent signings have been numerous and splendid---and each is remarkable in that the Cardinals were able to add high effort players at bargain prices, even one day into the free agency frenzy, which, as we all know, is usually when teams tend to overbid and overpay the players they covet.

The positive thinking behind the picks?

1. OLB Lorenzo Alexander: the Cardinals targeted him for a number of reasons: (a) his outstanding STs ability; (b) his locker room presence and leadership; (c) his potential to be a good pass rusher (which Tom Pratt will try to develop); (d) his physical style of play. I think Alexander has the body type and the tenacity to be a good edge rusher. He's the Drew Stanton of the defense in that now he has his chance to maximize his talents.

2. RB Rashard Mendenhall: as Arians has said, Mendenhall is the proto-typical kind of RB for his offense because he can bang it inside, he has the speed to gain chunk yards and occasionally hit the home run, he is a force at the goal-line, he can catch it and run when you need him to and he can block in pass protection. His one year deal puts added incentive for Mendenhall to return to the kind of form that he had during his 1,000 yard seasons in Pittsburgh. Basically his one year deal was a challenge from Arians: you do your job and you will earn a long-term contract.

Note: Arians gave Mendenhall an ultimatum---you either sign with us right now or we will pull our offer off the table. Mendenhall was supposed to go visit the Broncos---but, as we know, that never happened. Gotta love BA's determination here.

Note too: Mendenhall said that he and the other free agents that gathered at the Cardinals' facility the second day of free agency formed an instant kind of bond. Their excitement to become Cardinals and to join up as teammates was palpable.

3. CB Jerraud Powers: Arians calls him "Auburn tough" and credits Powers for providing one of the most pivotal turning points for the Colts last year when his interception of Aaron Rodgers led to a stunning victory over the Packers. Arians saw what Powers can do every day in practice last year and believes 100% in his ability and makeup.

4. S Yeremiah Bell: Todd Bowles loves this guy and with good reason. He's a leader and a dependable player at a key position. Bell thrived in Bowles' defense as a Dolphin two years ago and had a very good year this past year as a Jet. He was signed to a modest one year contract, which was a boon in itself and which shows how much Bell wanted to be here---and he will be counted on to make big plays and to help develop a rookie draft pick and/or Justin Bethel if Bowles decides he belongs at safety.

5. QB Drew Stanton: Arians believes that Stanton will be a good starter in his system. Having worked closely every day with Stanton last year, no one would have a better sense of why Stanton will succeed than Arians himself. The positives with Stanton are clear and Arians is focused on bringing those positives to fruition. What other coaches and teammates have all said about Stanton is very encouraging as they unanimously laud his leadership. Arians is a take charge coach and he needs a take charge QB. Arians and Stanton appear to be a wonderful match.

Stanton's contract is modest---he's going to have to earn his way to a bigger contract. That's the way it should have been with other overpaid Cardinal QBs of the past. The new HC and GM are getting it right this time around.

6. CB Antoine Cason: Arians was able to sign Cason to a one year deal that is for less money than he would have received in Jacksonville because of Cason's desire to play in Arizona and to be reunited with DB coach Kevin Ross. If the match is as strong as it appears to be, Cason could be taking his game to its highest level this year.

Note: the Cardinals wanted to re-sign CB Greg Toler, but Toler hadn't earned a $5M per year salary, at least not in his first four years. Instead the Cardinals were able to sign Jerraud Powers and Antoine Cason combined for less than Toler's $5M.

7. DE Matt Shaughnessy: this could be the biggest steal signing of the batch. Shaughnessy is an attractive player because of his physical style of play, his athleticism for such a thick body type and his versatility. He can play inside and outside in a 4 man rush---he can rush the edge from a 2 point stance as a 34 OLB. He can be a disruptive force as a 34 DE. I don't think there is any question that they would have liked to sign him to a longer deal---which if Shaughnessy deserves after this season, like Mendenhall, the Cardinals will be quick to award him at a figure that will make both sides happy.

8. ILB Jasper Brinkley: here is a young physical ILB heading into his prime. His game is only starting to take form and he will find himself in a position to thrive as he will be more protected than he was in the 4-3 at Minny. He will be able to play more aggressively, especially knowing he is playing in tandem with Daryl Washington. Plus, this guy could be a real factor in pressuring the QB on inside blitzes and occasional outside ones the way the Cardinals did with Reggie Walker at times last year.

What I am wondering is whether the addition of Brinkley will now allow the Cardinals to kick Reggie Walker over to SOLB. Walker showed some promise on the edge last year when he was used there to rush the passer. The coaches may have liked what they saw from Walker in that role. I bet they did.

9. DE Frostee Rucker: I cannot even begin to emphasize what a good signing this is and what a paradigm shift this represents. Rucker wasn't a fit in Horton's defense which is why he was let go---but the problem with Horton's defense in Arizona was that the OLBers were not suited to play rush DE in a the nickel and dime pass rushes (4 man).

The new Cardinals' coaches obviously saw this on tape and recognized that we need bigger, stronger, more powerful players to rush the passer. Especially now that the Cardinals need bull rushers on the edge who can maintain the outside line of the pocket so that they don't leave gaping escape routes for the athletic NFC West QBs to exploit. Funneling the QBs into to the teeth of the pocket is the way to go.

Rucker, like Matt Shaughnessy, can rush inside and outside in a 4 man rush. He is very good for running loop and TEX stunts, and like Shaughnessy he has short area quickness to get to the ball.

The irony is that Bowles' version of the 34 in terms of edge rushing is more in line with Dick LeBeau's than Horton's in that the edge rushers need to have the size and strength to be effective bull rushers.

10. WR/KR/PR Josh Cribbs: he's not signed as of yet, but he's clearly in the plans. One could see why he wants to be a Cardinal---did you hear what Bruce Arians has in mind for him? Arians wants to make any and every effort to get the ball in Cribbs' hands---and when you look at BA's offense, it's made to order for that through all the bubble and hitch screens and the z-delays on skinny posts and drags. BA could re-invent Josh Cribbs.

More FA Additions:

A few more are on the way. The clever way in which Mike Disner can work and maneuver the cap is a real breakthrough in how the Cardinals are finding ways to put all the puzzle pieces in place.

Some potential options:

1. QB Carson Palmer---one gets the sense that the Cardinals are waiting to see what happens with him in Oakland. He would be the one veteran QB scenario that would intrigue the Cardinals. BA is fine with Stanton as it now stands, but should Palmer become available, the Cardinals could make a swift and decisive move there and will have to find a creative cap solution in order to accommodate the move. Stay tuned Mike Disner!

2. T Max Starks---his signing makes a good deal of sense now that the coaches are strongly considering moving Nate Potter to guard. Starks would be very good insurance at tackle.

3. G/C Kevin Boothe---there was thought that Rich Ohrnsberger would be signed for that role, but he was just signed by the Chargers. Signing Boothe would give the Cardinals a solid option at RG and/or at center if they decided to let the far more expensive Adam Snyder go...or even if they hang on to Snyder.

4. TE Dallas Clark---pretty sure that his number is still in Tom Moore's rolodex. What a mentor he would be to Housler and the rookie TEs the Cardinals acquire.

5. OLB Shaun Phillips---there seemed to be some mutual interest and he would be a nice fit to continue to upgrade the edge pass rush.

6. OLB/DE Dwight Freeney---MJ stated that he heard the Cardinals were waiting to see what Freeney's situation was and that if he remained on the market and got frustrated with the Broncos they could swoop in and get him signed. MJ called it a long shot and it probably is---but there could be a scenario here.

7. S James Sanders---he was solid last year as one of the backup safeties and was good on STs.

8. S Quintin Mikell---solid in run support and can cover over the top.

9. S Michael Huff---he's getting some strong attention by several teams, maybe the Cardinals get involved?

10. WR Darius Heyward-Bey---speed WR whose made some progress and could be had at a bargain price. Would be great for him to work with Larry Fitzgerald and for a HC who likes to take 6-7 deep shots a game.

Trade Possibilities:

1. QB Brian Hoyer---especially if the Cardinals acquire Carson Palmer. A team like the Browns who are high on him could work a deal for a draft pick or player and then sign Hoyer to a multi-year deal like the one Stanton got. However, if BA does not trade Hoyer, it will be interesting to see what BA thinks of him once he sees and evaluates him on grass. I think BA really is going to like Hoyer. the question is: more than Stanton? BA wants to decide that going into training camp.

2. FB Anthony Sherman---seeing as BA doesn't use a FB, Sherman could have trade value on draft day. One would think he might be wanted in San Diego as much for his ST's value as in forming a dynamic duo with Le'Ron McClain. The Packers and Bears might be good fits as well.

Arians' Path To The Draft:

Some may argue that BA's pre-draft remarks are a smokescreen---but I don't think so at all. I think he is in earnest when he says:

1. "Our offensive line situation is not nearly as dire as people make it out to be." Look---4 offensive linemen were added last year in Snyder, Massie, Kelemete and Potter. The plan seems pretty clear that they like Levi Brown and Bobby Massie at the tackles and that they believe Nate Potter would be a good fit in their zone blocking schemes at guard.

Now---if the BPA at #7 is an offensive lineman, they could surely go in that direction. But, they clearly don't feel desperate to take one that early.

2. "None of the QBs in this draft have the wow factor, but, there are six QBs in this draft that could be solid pros." What this quote suggests is that again the Cardinals won't be desperate to reach for a QB---but as Steve Keim stated, "I'm of the Ron Wolf school of thinking that it's good to draft a QB every year." The Cardinals will draft a QB---but who, when and where? I think the earliest would be at #69 if Matt Scott, Mike Glennon or Tyler Bray are still available. My hunch is that Zach Dysert or Sean Renfree in the 4th or 5th round could be the choice.

3. "I love the fact that the new rules allow you to work with the rookies as much as you want."

This part is key, imo, and is the main reason why BA is looking to the draft as a means for adding the new bulk of the offensive talent he wants.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Cardinals trade down once or twice to add more picks, because I think BA is going to want a rookie QB and a bunch of rookie skill players (RB, WR, TE) to work with this off-season, in just the same way he did in Indy last year.

4. "I love to scout the RBs and WRs."

BA said this at the Combine---and it will be very interesting to see what skill players he has his eyes on in this draft.

Because BA is using free agency to fortify and to strengthen the defense, and because he has been trying to let the fans know that the offensive line situation is better than people think and that the draft class at QB lacks the "wow" factor, I think anything goes in this draft. In other words, you might want to be prepared to be surprised.

What the pundits think the Cardinals need and whom they should take may be vastly different than what BA and Steve Keim think.

I believe it is....which makes me all the more excited with this draft.

Think of how hamstrung and tied to need the Cardinals would have been heading into the draft if they hadn't been so active in free agency.

This draft is now pretty wide open for the Cardinals...

Which is exactly what BA wants his offense to be---wide open.:newcards:
 
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It has been so refreshing and encouraging to see a clear and decisive off-season plan at work---to see the FO and the coaching staff working in unison to make what they are now calling "Cardinal decisions."

There's a special kind of diligence going on---and with each move it is becoming more and more clear what the new team philosophy is.

The free agent signings have been numerous and splendid---and each is remarkable in that the Cardinals were able to add high effort players at bargain prices, even one day into the free agency frenzy, which as we all know is usually when teams tend to overbid and overpay the players they covet.

The positive thinking behind the picks?

1. OLB Lorenzo Alexander: the Cardinals targeted him for a number of reasons: (a) his outstanding STs ability; (b) his locker room presence and leadership; (c) his potential to be a good pass rusher (which Tom Pratt will try to develop); (d) his physical style of play.

2. RB Rashard Mendenhall: as Arians has said, Mendenhall is the perfect kind of RB for his offense because he can bang it inside, he has the speed to gain chunk yards and occasionally hit the home run, he is a force at the goal-line, he can catch it and run when you need him to and he can block in pass protection. His one year deal puts added incentive for Mendenhall to return to the kind of form that he had during his 1,000 yard seasons in Pittsburgh. Basically his one year deal was a challenge from Arians: you do your job and you will earn a long-term contract.

Note: Arians gave Mendenhall an ultimatum---you either sign with us right now or we will pull our offer off the table. Mendenhall was supposed to go visit the Broncos---but as we know that never happened.

Note too: Mendenhall said that he and the other free agents that gathered at the Cardinals' facility the second day of free agency formed an instant kind of bond. Their excitement to become Cardinals and to join up as teammates was palpable.

3. CB Jerraud Powers: Arians calls him "Auburn tough" and credits Powers for creating one of the most pivotal turning points for the Colts last year when his interception of Aaron Rodgers led to a stunning victory over the Packers. Arians saw what Powers can do every day in practice last year and believes 100% in his ability and his makeup.

4. S Yeremiah Bell: Todd Bowles loves this guy and with good reason. He's a leader and a dependable player at a key position. Bell thrived in Bowles' defense as a Dolphin two years ago and had a very good year this past year as a Jet. He was signed to a modest one year contract, which was a boon in itself and which shows how much Bell wanted to be here---and he will be counted on to make big plays and to help develop a rookie draft pick and/or Justin Bethel if Bowles decides he belongs at safety.

5. QB Drew Stanton: Arians believes that Stanton will be a good starter in his system. having worked closely every day with Stanton last year, no one would have a better sense of why Stanton will succeed than Arians himself. The positives with Stanton are clear and Arians is focused on bringing those positives to fruition. What other coaches and teammates have all said about Stanton is very encouraging as they laud his leadership ability. Arians is a take charge coach and he needs a take charge QB. Arians and Stanton appear to be a wonderful match.

Stanton's contract is modest---he's going to have to earn his way to a bigger contract. That's the way it should have been with other overpaid Cardinal QBs of the past. The new HC and GM are getting it right this time around.

6. CB Antoine Cason: Arians was able to sign Cason to a one year deal that is for less money than he would have received in Jacksonville because of Cason's desire to play in Arizona and to be reunited with DB coach Kevin Ross. If the match is as strong as it appears to be, Cason could be taking his game to its highest level this year.

Note: the Cardinals wanted to re-sign CB Greg Toler, but Toler hadn't earned a $5M per year salary and wasn't worthy of it. Instead the Cardinals are able to sign Jerraud Powers and Antoine Cason combined for less than Toler's $5M.

7. DE Matt Shaughnessy: this could be the biggest steal signing of the batch. Shaughnessy is a highly coveted player because of his physical style of play, his athleticism for such a thick body type and his versatility. He can play inside and outside in a 4 man rush---he can rush the edge from a 2 point stance as a 34 OLB. He can be a disruptive force as a 34 DE. I don't think there is any question that they would have liked to sign him to a longer deal---which if Shaughnessy deserves after this season, like Mendenhall, the Cardinals will be quick to award him at a figure that will make both sides happy.

8. ILB Jasper Brinkley: here is a young physical ILB heading into his prime. His game is only starting to take form and he will find himself in a position to thrive as he will be more protected than he was in the 4-3 at Minny. He will be able to play more aggressively, especially knowing he is playing in tandem with Daryl Washington. Plus, this guy could be a real factor in pressuring the QB on inside blitzes and occasional outside ones the way the Cardinals did with Reggie Walker at times last year.

What I am wondering is whether the addition of Brinkley will now allow the Cardinals to kick Reggie Walker over to SOLB. Walker showed some promise on the edge last year when he was used there to rush the passer.

9. DE Frostee Rucker: I cannot even begin to emphasize what a good signing this is and what a paradigm shift this represents. Rucker wasn't a fit in Horton's defense which is why he was let go---but the problem with Horton's defense in Arizona was that the OLBers were not suited to play rush DE in a the nickel and dime pass rushes (4 man).

The new Cardinals' coaches obviously saw this on tape and recognized that we need bigger, stronger, more powerful players to rush the passer. Especially now that the Cardinals need bull rushers on the edge who can maintain the outside line of the pocket so that they don't leave gaping escape routes for the athletic NFC West QBs to exploit. Funneling the QBs into to the teeth of the pocket is the way to go.

Rucker, like Matt Shaughnessy, can rush inside and outside in a 4 man rush. He is very good for running loop and TEX stunts, and like Shaughnessy he has short area quickness to get to the ball.

The irony is that Bowles' version of the 34 in terms of edge rushing is more in line with Dick LeBeau's than Horton's in that the edge rushers in the 5 or 4 man rushes need to have the size and strength to be effective bull rushers.

10. WR/KR/PR Josh Cribbs: he's not signed as of yet, but he's clearly in the plans. One could see why he wants to be a Cardinal---did you hear what Bruce Arians has in mind for him? Arians wants to make any and every effort to get the ball in Cribbs' hands---and when you look at BA's offense, it's made to order for that through all the bubble and hitch screens and the z-delays on skinny posts and drags. BA could re-invent Josh Cribbs.

More FA Additions:

A few more are on the way. The clever way in which Mike Disner can work and maneuver the cap is a real breakthrough in how the Cardinals are finding ways to put all the puzzle pieces in place.

Some potential options:

1. QB Carson Palmer---one gets the sense that the Cardinals are waiting to see what happens with him in Oakland. He would be the one veteran QB scenario that would intrigue the Cardinals. BA is fine with Stanton as it now stands, but should Palmer become available, the Cardinals could make a swift and decisive move there and will find a creative cap solution in order to accommodate the move.

2. T Max Starks---his signing makes a good deal of sense now that the coaches are strongly considering moving Nate Potter to guard. Starks would be very good insurance at tackle.

3. G/C Kevin Boothe---there was thought that Rich Ohrnsberger would be signed for that role, but he was just signed by the Chargers. This would give the Cardinals a solid option at RG and/or at center if they decided to let the far more expensive Adam Snyder go.

4. TE Dallas Clark---pretty sure that his number is still in Tom Moore's rolodex. What a mentor he would be to Housler and the rookie TEs the Cardinals acquire.

5. OLB Shaun Phillips---there seemed to be some mutual interest and he would be a nice fit to continue to upgrade the edge pass rush.

6. OLB/DE Dwight Freeney---MJ stated that he heard the Cardinals were waiting to see what Freeney's situation was and that if he remained on the market and got frustrated with the Broncos they could swoop in and get him signed. MJ called it a long shot and it probably is---but there could be a scenario here.

7. S James Sanders---he was solid last year as one of the backup safeties and was good on STs.

8. S Quintin Mikell---solid in run support and can cover over the top.

9. S Michael Huff---he's getting some strong attention by several teams, maybe the Cardinals get involved?

10. WR Darius Heyward-Bey---speed WR whose made some progress and could be had at a bargain price. Would be great for him to work with Larry Fitzgerald and for a HC who likes to take 6-7 deep shots a game.

Trade Possibilities:

1. QB Brian Hoyer---especially if the Cardinals acquire Carson Palmer. A team like the Browns who are high on him could work a deal for a draft pick or player and then sign Hoyer to a multi-year deal like the one Stanton got.

2. FB Anthony Sherman---seeing as BA doesn't use a FB, Sherman could have trade value on draft day. One would think he might be wanted in San Diego as much for his ST's value as in forming a dynamic duo with Le'Ron McClain. The Packers and Bears might be good fits as well.

Arians' Path To The Draft:

Some may argue that BA's pre-draft remarks are a smokescreen---but I don't think so at all. I think he is in earnest when he says:

1. "Our offensive line situation is not nearly as dire as people make it out to be." Look---4 offensive linemen were added last year in Snyder, Massie, Kelemete and Potter. The plan seems pretty clear that they like Levi brown and Bobby Massie at the tackles and that they believe Nate Potter would be a good fit in their zone blocking schemes at guard.

Now---if the BPA at #7 is an offensive lineman, they could surely go in that direction. But, they clearly don't feel desperate to take one that early.

2. "None of the QBs in this draft wowed me." "There are six QBs in this draft that could be solid pros." What these quotes suggest is that again the Cardinals won;t be desperate to reach for a QB---but as Steve Keim stated, "I'm of the Ron Wolf school of thinking that it's good to draft a QB every year." The Cardinals will draft a QB---but who, when and where? I think the earliest would be at #69 if Matt Scott, Mike Glennon or Tyler Bray are still available. My hunch is that Zach Dysert or Sean Renfree in the 4th or 5th round could be the choice.

3. "I love the fact that the new rules allow you to work with the rookies as much as you want."

This part is key, imo, and is the main reason why BA is looking to the draft as a means for adding the bulk of the offensive talent he wants.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Cardinals trade down once or twice to add more picks, because I think BA is going to want a rookie QB and a bunch of rookie skill players (RB, WR, TE) to work with this off-season, in just the same way he did in Indy last year.

4. "I love to scout the RBs and WRs."

BA said this at the Combine---and it will be very interesting to see what skill players he has his eyes on in this draft.

Because BA has used free agency to fortify and to strengthen the defense, and because he has been trying to let the fans know that the offensive line situation is better than people think and that the draft class at QB lacks the "wow" factor, I think anything goes in this draft. In other words, you might want to be prepared to be surprised.

What the pundits think the Cardinals need and whom they should take may be vastly different than what BA and Steve Keim think.

I believe it is....which makes me all the more excited with this draft.

Think of how hamstrung and tied to need the Cardinals would have been heading into the draft if they hadn't been so active in free agency.

This draft is now pretty wide open for the Cardinals...

Which is exactly what BA wants his offense to be---wide open.:newcards:

my question to you Mitch is this...............................you listed several FA players who Cards could still target.....................Max Starks OT has started almost every year in the nfl.do you think he will come to AZ to compete for LT spot with Levi Brown and for how much cash?
Carson Palmer QB-if Raiders cut him and Cards can get him for next to nothing.Go for it.I think Oakland keeps him.
Quintin Mikell SS/FS-isn`t the same a Yeremiah Bell only 2 years younger.
Michael Huff S-Raiders made him play CB some last year andhe can`t.Several teams interested as a safety.
Dallas Clark TE................nothing special anymore.a safety valve short yardage guy...............
Dwight Freeney DE- 5 sacks last in 16 starts.........aging fast.If he could be had cheaply........but didn`t Cards just do this with Joey Porter and Haggans etc;
Shaun Phillips OLB-DE 9.5 sacks last year.A bit younger than Freeney.I would kick the tires and check the price.
Kevin Boothe G/C-like the versatility.
James Sanders S-decent backup for minimum.


I think Cards will draft Mike Glennon QB in the draft in Round 2.
A BPA in RD 1
RD 3 Best available
 

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I agree with a lot of your post Mitch.

Most of the concern and negative comments about this offseason revolves around the secondary. Losing Adub sucks because he is such a fan favorite and deservedly so. Rhodes is a quality S and his talent and playmaking ability will be missed. I think Bell will be better than some think.

I completely agree with your take on the Toler situation and believe we have upgraded the CB group. I also don't think Bethel gets enough credit and "press" from any of us at this time. He was FANTASTIC on ST's as a gunner and started getting playing time at the end of the year in the dime package. Dude is FAST and if the FO is looking at trying him at CB then his hips and change of direction skills must be at least adequate for the Safety position.

I think BA does believe the Oline is not a hot mess. Levi may not be elite but he is a good LT. Massie didn't give up a sack in the last 8 (?) games of the season.

My biggest concerns right now are how will Bowles do as the DC, OLBer and QB. Sure we need to add a S and TE or two, RB and the OG's could be upgraded but there is plenty of FA's available for some of those positions and of course the Draft, which has a lot of talent at our biggest areas on need.

K9 had an interesting post (lipstick on a pig) which detailed the changing financial & CAP landscape of the NFL. I think he is spot on how it looks this year and next but I also think water seeks its own level so the "solid role" players will still be on every team but they simply won't make what they did prior to the new CBA.

With that in mind I don't take an OG in the top ten of the draft. Even though top ten draft picks don't make the obscene money they use to it does give them a good head start to making huge money on their 2nd contract. I don't think OG is a position that should be in the 8 or so superstars for a team and if you pay an OG that money then that's one less you can pay at a true impact position. (sorry chopper).
 
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Nice job Mitch-----you have pretty much captured the essence of what BA and Steve Keim are attempting to bring to the desert. I like your analysis of the FA players that they have already brought on board. To me, the kinds of players they have selected in each instance is poignant and tells a story about what kind a person that player is.

As for the possibles that you mentioned for FA players yet to be considered, my list of 20 possible additions includes 9 of the 10 players you mentioned. I feel that Shaun Phillips as a pass rusher is a distinct possibility and would be a solid pickup if we were to land him. As you said, Dwight Freeney is still a possibility who already has connections to this group.

As for the draft, BA could take a play-making pass rusher in the first, but there are at least three if not four distinct possibilities along the OL that could be had also, (any of which could help anchor our OL for years to come), in Joekle, Fisher, Warmack, and Cooper. I can see a couple of TE's that would compliment this roster also, like Travis Kelce who not only can run, but he can get to top speed quickly. Best of all, he is a hands catcher, (with strong hands), AND he plays with a mean streak. He almost seems tailored to what BA wants out of a TE. Then there are the RB's and the WR's that represent lightning in a bottle, like Kenjon Barner out of Oregon, who is a threat to take it to the house any time he has the ball. One of two of these might just pop up for us in this draft.

As you so aptly pointed out, by taking the FA's that we already have taken, this draft is wide open for an adept and agile GM and a creative HC to exploit. I am anxious to see just where this takes us, as some extra help would be very welcome by way of additional picks.

In any event, I truly like the stage-coach crew that Michael has hired to drive this stage, (Steve Keim as driver, and BA riding shot-gun), and I like the horses that BA has hitched his wagon to as well, (the staff). So I believe that I will spend the rest of this spring enjoying myself by going along for the ride. After all, the desert is green with a covering of grass right now, and is beginning to bloom with a whole palate of colors from newly opened wild flowers. Imagine it, bright light, bluebird sky, the desert all in bloom, and me enjoying the ride in shirt sleeves, and dreaming of Cardinal's football yet to come.
 
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my question to you Mitch is this...............................you listed several FA players who Cards could still target.....................Max Starks OT has started almost every year in the nfl.do you think he will come to AZ to compete for LT spot with Levi Brown and for how much cash?
Carson Palmer QB-if Raiders cut him and Cards can get him for next to nothing.Go for it.I think Oakland keeps him.
Quintin Mikell SS/FS-isn`t the same a Yeremiah Bell only 2 years younger.
Michael Huff S-Raiders made him play CB some last year andhe can`t.Several teams interested as a safety.
Dallas Clark TE................nothing special anymore.a safety valve short yardage guy...............
Dwight Freeney DE- 5 sacks last in 16 starts.........aging fast.If he could be had cheaply........but didn`t Cards just do this with Joey Porter and Haggans etc;
Shaun Phillips OLB-DE 9.5 sacks last year.A bit younger than Freeney.I would kick the tires and check the price.
Kevin Boothe G/C-like the versatility.
James Sanders S-decent backup for minimum.


I think Cards will draft Mike Glennon QB in the draft in Round 2.
A BPA in RD 1
RD 3 Best available

Good questions, BW.

1. Max Starks---I think BA would tell him, hey, you win the LT job I would switch Levi Brown over to RT where he can battle it out with Bobby Massie. At this point, Starks must know he's not going to make much more than the minimum for this year. So, BA says to him what he said to Rashard Mendenhall---play well and you will be rewarded.

2. Carson Palmer---I could be wrong but I get the sense that Dennis Allen has Bay envy about getting younger and more athletic at the QB spot, which is why i could see him drafting a QB in rounds 1 or 2 and going with Terrelle Pryor and the rookie.

3. Quintin Mickell is versatile---Yeremiah Bell is strictly a SS. I haven't heard any whisperings of Mickell but I think he would be a good veteran addition.

4. Michael Huff---probably will want a long-term deal, which may not be in the Cardinals' thinking at this point.

5. Dallas Clark---I think he might have a little more left in the tank than you think. If BA and TM think so, I think they sign him. Just as Yeremiah Bell will be counted on to help Justin Bethel and the rookie SS the Cardinals draft, it would be ideal to have Rob Housler and the rookie TE we draft learn from Clark.

6. Dwight Freeney, imo, has plenty left in the tank. I think the position shift and injuries caused the drop in production last year. Here he could be strictly an edge rusher---and i think they could acquire him for somewhere between $3-4M a year plus sack and playoff incentives.

7. Shaun Phillips---I like him for our pass rush. I've been hoping they get it done with him from the get-go.

8. Kevin Boothe---exactly, his versatility is attractive.

9. James Sanders---solid. They may wait until after the draft to re-sign him, if they do.

10. Mike Glennon---the tantalizing thing for BA would be to pass on players like RB Eddie Lacy, TE Zach Ertz or WR Ryan Swope at #38. My hunch is that BA would prefer a playmaker at #38 and would rather take Zach Dysert later on. You could be 100% correct, however. Glennon has the arm---but does he have the leadership skills?
 
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I agree with a lot of your post Mitch.

Most of the concern and negative comments about this offseason revolves around the secondary. Losing Adub sucks because he is such a fan favorite and deservedly so. Rhodes is a quality S and his talent and playmaking ability will be missed. I think Bell will be better than some think.

I completely agree with your take on the Toler situation and believe we have upgraded the CB group. I also don't think Bethel gets enough credit and "press" from any of us at this time. He was FANTASTIC on ST's as a gunner and started getting playing time at the end of the year in the dime package. Dude is FAST and if the FO is looking at trying him at CB then his hips and change of direction skills must be at least adequate for the Safety position.

I think BA does believe the Oline is not a hot mess. Levi may not be elite but he is a good LT. Massie didn't give up a sack in the last 8 (?) games of the season.

My biggest concerns right now are how will Bowles do as the DC, OLBer and QB. Sure we need to add a S and TE or two, RB and the OG's could be upgraded but there is plenty of FA's available for some of those positions and of course the Draft, which has a lot of talent at our biggest areas on need.

K9 had an interesting post (lipstick on a pig) which detailed the changing financial & CAP landscape of the NFL. I think he is spot on how it looks this year and next but I also think water seeks its own level so the "solid role" players will still be on every team but they simply won't make what they did prior to the new CBA.

With that in mind I don't take an OG in the top ten of the draft. Even though top ten draft picks don't make the obscene money they use to it does give them a good head start to making huge money on their 2nd contract. I don't think OG is a position that should be in the 8 or so superstars for a team and if you pay an OG that money then that's one less you can pay at a true impact position. (sorry chopper).

What I really appreciate and like about the players the Cardinals signed is that the Cardinals have identified hungry players who have much to prove. The combination of hunger and desire gives each of those plays a chance.

Lorenzo Alexander believes he could be a productive pass rusher. BA and SK see the potential there for that to happen and are willing to give him the opportunity to prove it.

Drew Stanton believes he can be a good starting QB...BA and SK agree.

Yeremiah Bell believes he can be a leader in our defense...BA, TB and SK agree.

Rashard Mendenhall and Matt Shaughnessy believe they are a big year away from locking up good multi-year deals....the staff agrees...

Josh Cribbs believes he can be a game changer at WR and that he was grossly under-utlized in Cleveland, and BA believes it as well....and has the type of offense to put Cribbs in the best position to succeed.

Etc., etc.

I agree that we really don't know how effective Todd Bowles will be---but he doesn't deserve any blame, imo, for what went on in Philly last year and the position he was put in.

I do know this---BA is taking good care of Todd Bowles in free agency and he will get Bowles a pass rusher and a safety in this draft to add to a defense that is already, thanks to the flurry of moves, two deep at every position other than safety.

The Cardinals are right on top of the FA situation and the climate which is very exciting. I really feel as if the Cardinals have finally caught up to the 21st century as an organization and I credit Michael Bidwill for being the catalyst.

As for the draft---I love four players at #7 in this order:

1. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia.
2. Ziggy Ansah, OLB, BYU.
3. Chance Warmack, T, Alabama.
4. Eric Fisher, T, Central Michigan.

What, another WR?

We have no one like Tavon Austin---and he's not just a WR, he's an all-purpose playmaker. He is so dynamic and electrifying---and he's incredibly smart---he has such good body control that he knows just when to duck out of bounds or when to slip under a big hit. Want to move the sticks and score TDs? No player in this draft gives you more of a chance to do that than Tavon Austin. if I were drafting #1 in this draft, I would take him over everyone else.

What, a project at OLB?

Ziggy Ansah is so gifted and rare athletically---and I actually think that being fairly new to the game is a blessing of sorts because he will be taught the right way by Tom Pratt. I think Ansah is the perfect kind of athlete it will take to stifle Kaepernick and Wilson---because at 6-6, 270, he's as fast as they are, and even quicker than they are.

What, a top ten guard?

For Chance Warmack the Cardinals can make that exception. Whenever one can find a dominant player and potential 7-10 year All-Pro, one can justify taking him anywhere in the draft.

What, a little known tackle from a small school?

Eric Fisher has the total package to be a truly elite LT in the NFL. Plus, his technique and footwork are superb....which at this point makes him all the more attractive.
 
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Nice job Mitch-----you have pretty much captured the essence of what BA and Steve Keim are attempting to bring to the desert. I like your analysis of the FA players that they have already brought on board. To me, the kinds of players they have selected in each instance is poignant and tells a story about what kind a person that player is.

As for the possibles that you mentioned for FA players yet to be considered, my list of 20 possible additions includes 9 of the 10 players you mentioned. I feel that Shaun Phillips as a pass rusher is a distinct possibility and would be a solid pickup if we were to land him. As you said, Dwight Freeney is still a possibility who already has connections to this group.

As for the draft, BA could take a play-making pass rusher in the first, but there are at least three if not four distinct possibilities along the OL that could be had also, (any of which could help anchor our OL for years to come), in Joekle, Fisher, Warmack, and Cooper. I can see a couple of TE's that would compliment this roster also, like Travis Kelce who not only can run, but he can get to top speed quickly. Best of all, he is a hands catcher, (with strong hands), AND he plays with a mean streak. He almost seems tailored to what BA wants out of a TE. Then there are the RB's and the WR's that represent lightning in a bottle, like Kenjon Barner out of Oregon, who is a threat to take it to the house any time he has the ball. One of two of these might just pop up for us in this draft.

As you so aptly pointed out, by taking the FA's that we already have taken, this draft is wide open for an adept and agile GM and a creative HC to exploit. I am anxious to see just where this takes us, as some extra help would be very welcome by way of additional picks.

In any event, I truly like the stage-coach crew that Michael has hired to drive this stage, (Steve Keim as driver, and BA riding shot-gun), and I like the horses that BA has hitched his wagon to as well, (the staff). So I believe that I will spend the rest of this spring enjoying myself by going along for the ride. After all, the desert is green with a covering of grass right now, and is beginning to bloom with a whole palate of colors from newly opened wild flowers. Imagine it, bright light, bluebird sky, the desert all in bloom, and me enjoying the ride in shirt sleeves, and dreaming of Cardinal's football yet to come.

God, I love this post, Catfish!

Just the thought of you enjoying that sunlit ride reminds me of Andy Dufresne upon his escape from Shawshank riding along the ocean with the top down en route to Zawatenejo.

This is the precisely the way I feel right now as well...

I feel like we have crawled through "five football fields of the foulest smelling sh&^ imaginable" and have "come out smelling sweet on the other side."

"Hope" truly is "a good thing," Catfish! For as Andy Dufresne says, "no good thing ever dies."

In that amazing story and movie---Andy said another poignant and ever-so important thing about hope:

He called it the "one thing they can never take away from you."

I hope...

I hope the ocean is as blue as I've pictured it in my dreams...

I hope to see my friend

I hope to shake his hand...

I hope...
 
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God, I love this post, Catfish!

Just the thought of you enjoying that sunlit ride reminds me of Andy Dufresne upon his escape from Shawshank riding along the ocean with the top down en route to Zawatenejo.

This is the precisely the way I feel right now as well...

I feel like we have crawled through "five football fields of the foulest smelling sh&^ imaginable" and have "come out smelling sweet on the other side."

"Hope" truly is "a good thing," Catfish! For as Andy Dufresne says, "no good thing ever dies."

In that amazing story and movie---Andy said another poignant and ever-so important thing about hope:

He called it the "one thing they can never take away from you."

I hope...

I hope the ocean is as blue as I've pictured it in my dreams...

I hope to see my friend

I hope to shake his hand...

I hope...

Me too-----
 

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God, I love this post, Catfish!

Just the thought of you enjoying that sunlit ride reminds me of Andy Dufresne upon his escape from Shawshank riding along the ocean with the top down en route to Zawatenejo.

This is the precisely the way I feel right now as well...

I feel like we have crawled through "five football fields of the foulest smelling sh&^ imaginable" and have "come out smelling sweet on the other side."

"Hope" truly is "a good thing," Catfish! For as Andy Dufresne says, "no good thing ever dies."

In that amazing story and movie---Andy said another poignant and ever-so important thing about hope:

He called it the "one thing they can never take away from you."

I hope...

I hope the ocean is as blue as I've pictured it in my dreams...

I hope to see my friend

I hope to shake his hand...

I hope...

Me three.

Well done, Mitch.

btw, Zihuatanejo. :)
 

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All right, back to reality. :)

I just HOPE that the Cards have an offense this year. Enjoy the beach, enjoy the blooming desert but please make the games exciting for an old season ticket holder. How about scorings some points.

IMO they need to really address the offense in the draft as the defense has taken center stage in the free agent signings. I would like to see them getting an offensive guard, a center, a qb for the future to develop, a breakaway running back, and a hard nose tight end.

Then I can sit back by my pool in the McDowell Mountain with a cool margarita watching the sun set amongst the pink prickly pear cactus and my giant saguaros hoping for a playoff team!! :D
 

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Mitch do you ever get tired of hearing great post? Well too bad....Great Post!
We, here are all a certain breed that hopes eternally. I can remember having eight season tickets at SDS and it was me one of my four kids that were too young to resist and six empty 125 degree seats. It takes so little to get the Kool-aid flowing. It is actually a great metaphor for the American spirit.

Speaking of hope and the idea of turning something underrated into greatness. If we do choose to wait on a QB I hope that guy is Renfree. He is a great kid, very smart (pre med at Duke I think) and has fantastic mechanics. I hope we put him on IR and let him heal and develop and while we are hoping, we grab Palmer and let the best man win this year.
 

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It has been so refreshing and encouraging to see a clear and decisive off-season plan at work---to see the FO and the coaching staff working in unison to make what they are now calling "Cardinal decisions."

There's a special kind of diligence going on---and with each move it is becoming more and more clear what the new team philosophy is.

The free agent signings have been numerous and splendid---and each is remarkable in that the Cardinals were able to add high effort players at bargain prices, even one day into the free agency frenzy, which, as we all know, is usually when teams tend to overbid and overpay the players they covet.

The positive thinking behind the picks?

1. OLB Lorenzo Alexander: the Cardinals targeted him for a number of reasons: (a) his outstanding STs ability; (b) his locker room presence and leadership; (c) his potential to be a good pass rusher (which Tom Pratt will try to develop); (d) his physical style of play. I think Alexander has the body type and the tenacity to be a good edge rusher. He's the Drew Stanton of the defense in that now he has his chance to maximize his talents.

2. RB Rashard Mendenhall: as Arians has said, Mendenhall is the proto-typical kind of RB for his offense because he can bang it inside, he has the speed to gain chunk yards and occasionally hit the home run, he is a force at the goal-line, he can catch it and run when you need him to and he can block in pass protection. His one year deal puts added incentive for Mendenhall to return to the kind of form that he had during his 1,000 yard seasons in Pittsburgh. Basically his one year deal was a challenge from Arians: you do your job and you will earn a long-term contract.

Note: Arians gave Mendenhall an ultimatum---you either sign with us right now or we will pull our offer off the table. Mendenhall was supposed to go visit the Broncos---but, as we know, that never happened. Gotta love BA's determination here.

Note too: Mendenhall said that he and the other free agents that gathered at the Cardinals' facility the second day of free agency formed an instant kind of bond. Their excitement to become Cardinals and to join up as teammates was palpable.

3. CB Jerraud Powers: Arians calls him "Auburn tough" and credits Powers for providing one of the most pivotal turning points for the Colts last year when his interception of Aaron Rodgers led to a stunning victory over the Packers. Arians saw what Powers can do every day in practice last year and believes 100% in his ability and makeup.

4. S Yeremiah Bell: Todd Bowles loves this guy and with good reason. He's a leader and a dependable player at a key position. Bell thrived in Bowles' defense as a Dolphin two years ago and had a very good year this past year as a Jet. He was signed to a modest one year contract, which was a boon in itself and which shows how much Bell wanted to be here---and he will be counted on to make big plays and to help develop a rookie draft pick and/or Justin Bethel if Bowles decides he belongs at safety.

5. QB Drew Stanton: Arians believes that Stanton will be a good starter in his system. Having worked closely every day with Stanton last year, no one would have a better sense of why Stanton will succeed than Arians himself. The positives with Stanton are clear and Arians is focused on bringing those positives to fruition. What other coaches and teammates have all said about Stanton is very encouraging as they unanimously laud his leadership. Arians is a take charge coach and he needs a take charge QB. Arians and Stanton appear to be a wonderful match.

Stanton's contract is modest---he's going to have to earn his way to a bigger contract. That's the way it should have been with other overpaid Cardinal QBs of the past. The new HC and GM are getting it right this time around.

6. CB Antoine Cason: Arians was able to sign Cason to a one year deal that is for less money than he would have received in Jacksonville because of Cason's desire to play in Arizona and to be reunited with DB coach Kevin Ross. If the match is as strong as it appears to be, Cason could be taking his game to its highest level this year.

Note: the Cardinals wanted to re-sign CB Greg Toler, but Toler hadn't earned a $5M per year salary, at least not in his first four years. Instead the Cardinals were able to sign Jerraud Powers and Antoine Cason combined for less than Toler's $5M.

7. DE Matt Shaughnessy: this could be the biggest steal signing of the batch. Shaughnessy is an attractive player because of his physical style of play, his athleticism for such a thick body type and his versatility. He can play inside and outside in a 4 man rush---he can rush the edge from a 2 point stance as a 34 OLB. He can be a disruptive force as a 34 DE. I don't think there is any question that they would have liked to sign him to a longer deal---which if Shaughnessy deserves after this season, like Mendenhall, the Cardinals will be quick to award him at a figure that will make both sides happy.

8. ILB Jasper Brinkley: here is a young physical ILB heading into his prime. His game is only starting to take form and he will find himself in a position to thrive as he will be more protected than he was in the 4-3 at Minny. He will be able to play more aggressively, especially knowing he is playing in tandem with Daryl Washington. Plus, this guy could be a real factor in pressuring the QB on inside blitzes and occasional outside ones the way the Cardinals did with Reggie Walker at times last year.

What I am wondering is whether the addition of Brinkley will now allow the Cardinals to kick Reggie Walker over to SOLB. Walker showed some promise on the edge last year when he was used there to rush the passer. The coaches may have liked what they saw from Walker in that role. I bet they did.

9. DE Frostee Rucker: I cannot even begin to emphasize what a good signing this is and what a paradigm shift this represents. Rucker wasn't a fit in Horton's defense which is why he was let go---but the problem with Horton's defense in Arizona was that the OLBers were not suited to play rush DE in a the nickel and dime pass rushes (4 man).

The new Cardinals' coaches obviously saw this on tape and recognized that we need bigger, stronger, more powerful players to rush the passer. Especially now that the Cardinals need bull rushers on the edge who can maintain the outside line of the pocket so that they don't leave gaping escape routes for the athletic NFC West QBs to exploit. Funneling the QBs into to the teeth of the pocket is the way to go.

Rucker, like Matt Shaughnessy, can rush inside and outside in a 4 man rush. He is very good for running loop and TEX stunts, and like Shaughnessy he has short area quickness to get to the ball.

The irony is that Bowles' version of the 34 in terms of edge rushing is more in line with Dick LeBeau's than Horton's in that the edge rushers need to have the size and strength to be effective bull rushers.

10. WR/KR/PR Josh Cribbs: he's not signed as of yet, but he's clearly in the plans. One could see why he wants to be a Cardinal---did you hear what Bruce Arians has in mind for him? Arians wants to make any and every effort to get the ball in Cribbs' hands---and when you look at BA's offense, it's made to order for that through all the bubble and hitch screens and the z-delays on skinny posts and drags. BA could re-invent Josh Cribbs.

More FA Additions:

A few more are on the way. The clever way in which Mike Disner can work and maneuver the cap is a real breakthrough in how the Cardinals are finding ways to put all the puzzle pieces in place.

Some potential options:

1. QB Carson Palmer---one gets the sense that the Cardinals are waiting to see what happens with him in Oakland. He would be the one veteran QB scenario that would intrigue the Cardinals. BA is fine with Stanton as it now stands, but should Palmer become available, the Cardinals could make a swift and decisive move there and will have to find a creative cap solution in order to accommodate the move. Stay tuned Mike Disner!

2. T Max Starks---his signing makes a good deal of sense now that the coaches are strongly considering moving Nate Potter to guard. Starks would be very good insurance at tackle.

3. G/C Kevin Boothe---there was thought that Rich Ohrnsberger would be signed for that role, but he was just signed by the Chargers. Signing Boothe would give the Cardinals a solid option at RG and/or at center if they decided to let the far more expensive Adam Snyder go...or even if they hang on to Snyder.

4. TE Dallas Clark---pretty sure that his number is still in Tom Moore's rolodex. What a mentor he would be to Housler and the rookie TEs the Cardinals acquire.

5. OLB Shaun Phillips---there seemed to be some mutual interest and he would be a nice fit to continue to upgrade the edge pass rush.

6. OLB/DE Dwight Freeney---MJ stated that he heard the Cardinals were waiting to see what Freeney's situation was and that if he remained on the market and got frustrated with the Broncos they could swoop in and get him signed. MJ called it a long shot and it probably is---but there could be a scenario here.

7. S James Sanders---he was solid last year as one of the backup safeties and was good on STs.

8. S Quintin Mikell---solid in run support and can cover over the top.

9. S Michael Huff---he's getting some strong attention by several teams, maybe the Cardinals get involved?

10. WR Darius Heyward-Bey---speed WR whose made some progress and could be had at a bargain price. Would be great for him to work with Larry Fitzgerald and for a HC who likes to take 6-7 deep shots a game.

Trade Possibilities:

1. QB Brian Hoyer---especially if the Cardinals acquire Carson Palmer. A team like the Browns who are high on him could work a deal for a draft pick or player and then sign Hoyer to a multi-year deal like the one Stanton got. However, if BA does not trade Hoyer, it will be interesting to see what BA thinks of him once he sees and evaluates him on grass. I think BA really is going to like Hoyer. the question is: more than Stanton? BA wants to decide that going into training camp.

2. FB Anthony Sherman---seeing as BA doesn't use a FB, Sherman could have trade value on draft day. One would think he might be wanted in San Diego as much for his ST's value as in forming a dynamic duo with Le'Ron McClain. The Packers and Bears might be good fits as well.

Arians' Path To The Draft:

Some may argue that BA's pre-draft remarks are a smokescreen---but I don't think so at all. I think he is in earnest when he says:

1. "Our offensive line situation is not nearly as dire as people make it out to be." Look---4 offensive linemen were added last year in Snyder, Massie, Kelemete and Potter. The plan seems pretty clear that they like Levi Brown and Bobby Massie at the tackles and that they believe Nate Potter would be a good fit in their zone blocking schemes at guard.

Now---if the BPA at #7 is an offensive lineman, they could surely go in that direction. But, they clearly don't feel desperate to take one that early.

2. "None of the QBs in this draft have the wow factor, but, there are six QBs in this draft that could be solid pros." What this quote suggests is that again the Cardinals won't be desperate to reach for a QB---but as Steve Keim stated, "I'm of the Ron Wolf school of thinking that it's good to draft a QB every year." The Cardinals will draft a QB---but who, when and where? I think the earliest would be at #69 if Matt Scott, Mike Glennon or Tyler Bray are still available. My hunch is that Zach Dysert or Sean Renfree in the 4th or 5th round could be the choice.

3. "I love the fact that the new rules allow you to work with the rookies as much as you want."

This part is key, imo, and is the main reason why BA is looking to the draft as a means for adding the new bulk of the offensive talent he wants.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Cardinals trade down once or twice to add more picks, because I think BA is going to want a rookie QB and a bunch of rookie skill players (RB, WR, TE) to work with this off-season, in just the same way he did in Indy last year.

4. "I love to scout the RBs and WRs."

BA said this at the Combine---and it will be very interesting to see what skill players he has his eyes on in this draft.

Because BA is using free agency to fortify and to strengthen the defense, and because he has been trying to let the fans know that the offensive line situation is better than people think and that the draft class at QB lacks the "wow" factor, I think anything goes in this draft. In other words, you might want to be prepared to be surprised.

What the pundits think the Cardinals need and whom they should take may be vastly different than what BA and Steve Keim think.

I believe it is....which makes me all the more excited with this draft.

Think of how hamstrung and tied to need the Cardinals would have been heading into the draft if they hadn't been so active in free agency.

This draft is now pretty wide open for the Cardinals...

Which is exactly what BA wants his offense to be---wide open.:newcards:

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I am not buying into any of it, nothing but blue sky. The game has obviously passed Bruce Arians by. He is old school and not up on current offenses or defenses, which is why he has moved around so much over recent years. We would have been better off hiring his son, Jake, who is more in tune to 21st century NFL play and has more connections with the younger coaches/players in the league. Oh wait, 4-1 isn't for a few more days. Never mind.
 

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I am not buying into any of it, nothing but blue sky. The game has obviously passed Bruce Arians by. He is old school and not up on current offenses or defenses, which is why he has moved around so much over recent years. We would have been better off hiring his son, Jake, who is more in tune to 21st century NFL play and has more connections with the younger coaches/players in the league. Oh wait, 4-1 isn't for a few more days. Never mind.

Heh?
 

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A "rat" and the power of HOPE!...

I heard this many years ago. Supposedly, a "true" story. Many years ago they did a scientific research study involving rats. They placed a rat in a tub of deep water to see how long it would survive. I forget the exact details but it was something like 2-3 hours before the rat was completely exhausted and dipped beneath the surface ready to die. The research scientist reached in at the last possible moment and pulled the rat out to safety.

The next day they tried the same experiment. Well, this very same rat treaded water for something like 13 hours!! In the previous experiment it had only lasted a couple of hours before giving up. Somehow it knew/believed that IF it just keep trying...Kept going..kept holding onto HOPE...that the hand was going to come down from above again and save it!

So, put me squarely in the "hope" camp, my friends. :)
Besides, it's much easier on the heart!

GO CARDS! Mark in SC :)
 

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Mitch, about your draft possibilities.
1. Isn't Austin too small to be considered for the top pick? At 175 pounds, I'd be very concerned about the punishment his body would take in the NFL. And whether it can hold up.
2. As to QB's, speculating whether Bray or Scott would be available in the third round. I'm guessing that teams that need QB's like Arizona, Buffalo, Jets, Jags and Browns, will take them in either round one or two. And teams that are taking them as developmental projects will probably wait until round four or five. So I'm guessing that tweeners like Scott and Bray, who are not considered elite but not developmental types either, should be avaiable in the third round. Of course I'm basing my rating of Scott and Bray on the opinion of the so called experts. As you know most have Smith, Manuel, Barkley, Nassib and Jones at the top of the QB pecking order.
3. Some of what SK and BA are saying must be BS, and I think it concerns the OL. So that is why I feel Fisher or Warmick will be the choice, with Johnson and Cooper also in the mix.
4. Ansah is a great talent but don't feel we can wait for him to develop. A team that has "wait-ability" could end up with a steal, a year down the road. JMO.
 
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In the Cardinals we Hope. There is always that starting out anew. It's gonna be uphill all the way, but some time things are gonna turn and smooth out...hopefully sooner this time.
 

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I am beginning to warm up to the Cardinals QBs. They will do a good job. If they don't, then the Cardinals will have a shot at drafting Teddy Bridgewater. Win-Win.

The Cardinals need to draft RB L'von Bell out of MSU. He has been a beast in college without injuries. Love this guy game.
 
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All right, back to reality. :)

I just HOPE that the Cards have an offense this year. Enjoy the beach, enjoy the blooming desert but please make the games exciting for an old season ticket holder. How about scorings some points.

IMO they need to really address the offense in the draft as the defense has taken center stage in the free agent signings. I would like to see them getting an offensive guard, a center, a qb for the future to develop, a breakaway running back, and a hard nose tight end.

Then I can sit back by my pool in the McDowell Mountain with a cool margarita watching the sun set amongst the pink prickly pear cactus and my giant saguaros hoping for a playoff team!! :D

This is what I think they are going to focus on in the draft. All offense except for a pass rusher.
 
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I heard this many years ago. Supposedly, a "true" story. Many years ago they did a scientific research study involving rats. They placed a rat in a tub of deep water to see how long it would survive. I forget the exact details but it was something like 2-3 hours before the rat was completely exhausted and dipped beneath the surface ready to die. The research scientist reached in at the last possible moment and pulled the rat out to safety.

The next day they tried the same experiment. Well, this very same rat treaded water for something like 13 hours!! In the previous experiment it had only lasted a couple of hours before giving up. Somehow it knew/believed that IF it just keep trying...Kept going..kept holding onto HOPE...that the hand was going to come down from above again and save it!

So, put me squarely in the "hope" camp, my friends. :)
Besides, it's much easier on the heart!

GO CARDS! Mark in SC :)

Nice story Mark. :thumbup:
 

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I heard this many years ago. Supposedly, a "true" story. Many years ago they did a scientific research study involving rats. They placed a rat in a tub of deep water to see how long it would survive. I forget the exact details but it was something like 2-3 hours before the rat was completely exhausted and dipped beneath the surface ready to die. The research scientist reached in at the last possible moment and pulled the rat out to safety.

The next day they tried the same experiment. Well, this very same rat treaded water for something like 13 hours!! In the previous experiment it had only lasted a couple of hours before giving up. Somehow it knew/believed that IF it just keep trying...Kept going..kept holding onto HOPE...that the hand was going to come down from above again and save it!

So, put me squarely in the "hope" camp, my friends. :)
Besides, it's much easier on the heart!

GO CARDS! Mark in SC :)
And as cards fans we let them put us right back into the water.
 
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I heard this many years ago. Supposedly, a "true" story. Many years ago they did a scientific research study involving rats. They placed a rat in a tub of deep water to see how long it would survive. I forget the exact details but it was something like 2-3 hours before the rat was completely exhausted and dipped beneath the surface ready to die. The research scientist reached in at the last possible moment and pulled the rat out to safety.

The next day they tried the same experiment. Well, this very same rat treaded water for something like 13 hours!! In the previous experiment it had only lasted a couple of hours before giving up. Somehow it knew/believed that IF it just keep trying...Kept going..kept holding onto HOPE...that the hand was going to come down from above again and save it!

So, put me squarely in the "hope" camp, my friends. :)
Besides, it's much easier on the heart!

GO CARDS! Mark in SC :)

Great story, Mark.

Say, do you know what is the number one cause for high blood pressure in laboratory rats?





















Subjection to laboratory tests.

(That was on SNL's Weekend Update a number of years ago! lol)
 

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