Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

[QuebecCard]

Surprise you can look anywhere but up.

If you back away enough, you can take in the full picture:

 

[slanidrac16]

I'd like our gambles to come in at considerably less than $14m on average per season.

So the Watt signing sucked, huh?

 

[slanidrac16]

If you back away enough, you can take in the full picture:

Kind of resembles our front office…

 

[Stout]

My posts are strictly for entertainment.

Mine.

Oh, that's clear. You do your best to bait posters and refuse to actually defend your arguments. Rather transparent. I at least do my best to comment on the team as I see it

 

[QuebecCard]

So the Watt signing sucked, huh?

No. It was a solid signing of a former Defensive Player of the Year and future Hall of Famer who had just played 16 games and 1000 snaps. Smith ain't no JJ, in fact, he's not a CJ.

 

[Stout]

No. It was a solid signing of a former Defensive Player of the Year and future Hall of Famer who had just played 16 games and 1000 snaps. Smith ain't no JJ, in fact, he's not a CJ.

It was clearly the signing of an aged and oft-injured player that didn't hold up health-wise. He's a beast, but that signing hurt us more than helped us thus far.

 

[Krangodnzr]

No. It was a solid signing of a former Defensive Player of the Year and future Hall of Famer who had just played 16 games and 1000 snaps. Smith ain't no JJ, in fact, he's not a CJ.

The irony, yes?

 

[Krangodnzr]

I didn't realize JC only had 1,127 scrimmage yards. I guess I should have figured it, with his low YPC.

I value TDs over yards.

 

[QuebecCard]

Oh, that's clear. You do your best to bait posters and refuse to actually defend your arguments. Rather transparent. I at least do my best to comment on the team as I see it

I make my case as best I can and refuse to rather transparently make **** up about what other posters' may think or feel.

 

[slanidrac16]

No. It was a solid signing of a former Defensive Player of the Year and future Hall of Famer who had just played 16 games and 1000 snaps. Smith ain't no JJ, in fact, he's not a CJ.

But 1/2 season last year and another year older. Hey , YOU we’re the one who says you prefer not to gamble on 14m a year players. He has not yet “ earned” his salary as a Cardinal. Can’t contribute on the bench… oh wait… his leadership is probably worth 1/2 of his cap hit.
You should have stopped after “ former”.

 

[Stout]

I make my case as best I can and refuse to rather transparently make **** up about what other posters' may think or feel.

I get it. Your own little world. You refuse to answer simple questions at times, often dragging that bait through the message board waters.

 

[Stout]

I value TDs over yards.

He definitely brought many more of those than I could have hoped for last year! Will he bring them this coming season, though? Will he get injured again, only earlier or for longer? Time will tell. He'd better bring it, though, with that contract.

 

[QuebecCard]

I get it. Your own little world. You refuse to answer simple questions at times, often dragging that bait through the message board waters.

You're right. I don't pay much attention to often sophomoric and not very cleverly tilted questions.

 

[juza76]

We got 7 games by jj Watt
As someone mentioned the first thng u look in a player is availability
Jj Watt is one of the best defensive lineman ever, but he is 33 with injury issues, at today the 28 mil for him can't be called a good investment
Hopefully he can play a full season

 

[BritCard]

I didn't realize JC only had 1,127 scrimmage yards. I guess I should have figured it, with his low YPC.

Could also be that Chase had 116 carries and 43 receptions for 903 scrimmage yards.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Could also be that Chase had 116 carries and 43 receptions for 903 scrimmage yards.

Early in the year, Conner was mostly getting goal line carries. That changed when Chase got dinged up.

I wanted the Cardinals to resigned Conner but $7 million was a bit rich. Granted, Chase signed for $6 million, so a million more for a player who is substantially better around the goal line isn't crazy.

Personally, I'll be happier if the Cardinals could score a solid pass rusher and another WR. They have some roster options for both, but I think there is some need.

The Cardinals are just hesitant to give up any of their upcoming flexibility. They have TONS of cap room coming up. That means they can basically resign all of their best young players AND add some talent.

 

[BritCard]

So the Watt signing sucked, huh?

Comparing JJ Watt and Za'Darius Smith is like comparing a 2 starred Michelin restaurant and Burger King. Watt is a future hall of famer. Smith is a pretty good edge with 2 seasons out of 7 over 10 sacks.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Comparing JJ Watt and Za'Darius Smith is like comparing a 2 starred Michelin restaurant and Burger King. Watt is a future hall of famer. Smith is a pretty good edge with 2 seasons out of 7 over 10 sacks.

Watt at his peak is a top 3 DL of all time.

Three best ever? Watt, Donald, and White in no order.

 

[BritCard]

Early in the year, Conner was mostly getting goal line carries. That changed when Chase got dinged up.

I wanted the Cardinals to resigned Conner but $7 million was a bit rich. Granted, Chase signed for $6 million, so a million more for a player who is substantially better around the goal line isn't crazy.

Personally, I'll be happier if the Cardinals could score a solid pass rusher and another WR. They have some roster options for both, but I think there is some need.

The Cardinals are just hesitant to give up any of their upcoming flexibility. They have TONS of cap room coming up. That means they can basically resign all of their best young players AND add some talent.

And while Kyler will cost significant more next year he's still going to be costing a lot less than practically every top tier QB outside Herbert and Burrow.

 

[BritCard]

Early in the year, Conner was mostly getting goal line carries. That changed when Chase got dinged up.

I wanted the Cardinals to resigned Conner but $7 million was a bit rich. Granted, Chase signed for $6 million, so a million more for a player who is substantially better around the goal line isn't crazy.

Personally, I'll be happier if the Cardinals could score a solid pass rusher and another WR. They have some roster options for both, but I think there is some need.

The Cardinals are just hesitant to give up any of their upcoming flexibility. They have TONS of cap room coming up. That means they can basically resign all of their best young players AND add some talent.

He had 26 receiving yards through the first 8 games and 350 in the following 7.

If they had figured out Conner has great hands (which he does) earlier it would have been a different story.

 

[football karma]

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[AZman5103]

UH, it won't be, even close. Probably 8-9 or more easily. Guessing 10.

You dont understand odds makers. There is no way the over/under for the cards will be 10. It will probably be 8 1/2...and that means they think the Cards will win 8 games. It could very well be lower.

Currently, I would take the over at 6, and the under at 9 1/2.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Isabella for Hill, straight up. C'mon Keim, make it happen!

 

[jf-08]

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If it's the Cards, I wonder if it will be Simmons + Rondale + a 4th?

 

[Chopper0080]

No. It was a solid signing of a former Defensive Player of the Year and future Hall of Famer who had just played 16 games and 1000 snaps. Smith ain't no JJ, in fact, he's not a CJ.

I don't know of many successful investment strategies that say you benefit most when buying high. We bought Watt at the top of his market and the return we got was not. The argument can be made that this is Keim's biggest issue in FA.

Before you use this to champion Keim's approach, he is also bottom of the NFL in drafting so that approach isn't a good one for him either.