Arranging the Cardinals' Priorities

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Here are my thoughts about each position and what I think BA&SK are thinking---would love to hear yours.

I would like to begin by saying that I believe BA&SK are going to do all they can to try to win the NFC West next year to ensure home field advantage in the playoffs and the possibility of a home game for the Super Bowl. This is a key context in this year's decisions.

QB:

If you heard RT Eric Winston on MJ yesterday, he raved about Carson Palmer---his stellar work ethic and as Winston put it "we all struggled during the first half of the season, so often the QB gets too much of the blame and at times too much credit, in my opinion, but Carson Palmer was as tough as a QB could be and he never once complained or pointed the finger at anyone else."

Word is that Palmer has been spending the past week breaking down every one of the game films. He said he loves doing it and that he learns a great deal from studying what he could see aspects of his mechanics that he wishes to improve and from studying his own tendencies.

The plan is to ride the arm of Carson Palmer for the next two years---and with a solid #2 in the fold for that duration in Drew Stanton, the need to add another QB right now is not imminent.

If BA&SK fall in love with a college QB they may be tempted to take him---but with the other needs they wish to address, it's not going to be likely.

There will be a young QB added to challenge Ryan Lindley for the #3 spot, but like last year, it will probably be a UCFA or possibly a late draft pick.

RB:

BA has professed an avid liking for Rashard Mendenhall and still considers him a winner, but I think he is one of the free agents that BA is going to let go of.

The hope would be to land a bell cow starter in free agency like Ben Tate. While the superb Andre Ellington is going to be used a little more next year, BA will still monitor his touches.

The questions is: do BA&SK see enough in Stepfan Taylor and Ryan Williams to feel good about the status quo?

I imagine that they like Taylor---but want someone a little more gifted...which speaks to a healthy Ryan Williams, but, as we all know, we have have no idea as to what we are going to see in RW come next season.

My prediction is that we will see a FA added...or a draft pick in rounds 4-6.

WR:

Of course, something has to be done about Larry Fitzgerald's prohibitive cap figures in 2014 and 2015. But, honestly, something also has to be done about the number of forced passes that were thrown Fitz's way. There is pressure to get Fitz his touches---and that pressure has hurt the offense at times.

The answer is that the more threats the Cardinals can add at WR and TE the better the chance that Fitz will not be constantly bracketed as he continues to be.

Michael Floyd battled his way through a productive, yet injury hampered season. He is just starting to flourish and the system favors him, as does his QB.

Andre Roberts did not command the attention he probably deserved, although he really didn't play as fast as the Cardinals' needed him to. He's not an especially nifty runner in the open field which is why we didn't see him featured as much in this offense.

The coaches appear to be very high on Jaron Brown and with good reason. He has a good blend of size and speed and he proved to be a reasonably reliable pass catcher. He's not the kind of nifty all-purpose speed WR BA needs, but because he's good on STs, he makes for a very good #4 WR on the roster.

The plan is to use Andre Ellington more at slot WR because he has the niftiness the coaches want.

However, there will be a concerted effort this year to add two key speed options at WR.

One option could be UFA Dexter McCluster (Chiefs), who could also be used as a much needed return man. McCluster fits the mold.

Another could be UFA Emmanuel Sanders (Steelers), whom BA helped to draft and coach a few years back.

Even if a UFA WR is added, BA&SK are going to add another speed WR in the draft. Adding a UFA WR would allow them to wait until rounds 3-5...which is most likely what they would prefer...although, one would think that Brandin Cooks of Oregon St. would be a player very much on BA&SK's radar. He would be the Cardinals' version of T.Y. Hilton.

LT:

Bradley Sowell battled like a champion and actually helped to solidify the offensive line. However, BA had to tailor the offense to helping Sowell on pass protection, which is why BA&SK are adamant about making the LT position their #1 priority heading into free agency.

The four UFAs to watch are Brandon Albert (Chiefs), Eugene Monroe (Ravens), Jared Veldheer (Raiders) and Anthony Collins (Bengals).

Early rumors have the Cardinals targeting Albert...but my hunch is the guy with the inside track is Veldheer who protected Carson Palmer's blind side in Oakland. Veldheer is coming off an injury riddled season, so that's a concern---and the Raiders might f-tag him.

If Cbus' scout friend is correct, perhaps BA&SK are high on Monroe. Although, the Ravens have been expressing interest in sign ing him long term.

The plan is to sign a tested veteran LT.

It would be very hard to imagine BA&SK inserting a rookie LT into the lineup next year.

LG:

Daryn Colledge turned in his best season as a Cardinal. His contract becomes a $7+M problem, however. Just when Jonathan Cooper is set to be reinserted as the LG.

The question is whether BA&SK release Colledge or coax him into a pay cut. If it's the latter, then Colledge moves over to RG.

C:

Lyle Sendlein was a steady anchor of the line and winner of the Good Guy Award. He's under contract and should remain the starter. Mike Gibson is a solid backup, but is a UFA. The Cardinals signed two young PS centers to future's contracts, Philip Blake (6-3, 310, Baylor) and Tommie Draheim (6-4, 309, San Diego St.). If BA&SK are high enough on Blake or Draheim, they won't draft a center this year.

RG:

One of the most unsung players on the team this year was RG Paul Fanaika. From day one in TC this guy snatched the RG job away and held onto it with all his might. Fanaika was very physical at the point of attack and he was solid in pass pro, yet occasionally prone to losing his balance on swim moves. He could stand to improve his pulling technique---but, for a first year starter at RG who basically was a backup offensive tackle came out of nowhere, one has to be impressed with the job he did.

Waiting patiently in the wings is 4th round draft pick Earl Watford who is quite the physical specimen. The coaches were loath to throw him in there too early---but, this TC Watford will get his chance.

It's very likely that Nate Potter will be used more primarily at guard this year.

RT:

Eric Winston provided steady physical play and much needed leadership. He said on MJ yesterday that BA&SK expressed to him how they would like him back and now it would seem to come down to whether they can agree on a salary.

Yes, the Cardinals have Bobby Massie waiting his turn---but it's good for Massie and the team if he has to compete with Winston for the starting job. Massie did a nice job of being a run blocking TE---one of the wrinkles that helped the Cardinals win 7 of their last 9 games.

TE:

This position is a mess.

The steadiest player was Jim Dray who had his fair share of good moments, but who also got tossed around and thrown aside as a pass protector and sometimes in the running game.

Rob Housler, thanks to injuries and poor awareness on the football field, vastly under-achieved once again. This time it wasn't the QB to blame. Housler has focus issues. He showed some flashes and is not afraid to catch the ball, tuck it in and fight for extra yards. But, catching the ball is a problem---as is running crisp routes and getting a feel for timing patterns.

Jake Ballard was a nice addition who performed well as a situational pass catcher. One would imagine that BA&SK would like to re-sign him at or near the veteran minimum, but perhaps with playing time and production incentives.

Kory Sperry sure looked the part as a pass catcher in pre-season but was rarely activated.

The coaches are apparently very high on PS TE Darren Fells (6-7, 281, Cal-Irvine) a converted basketball player whom they are coaching up.

Regardless, upgrading the TE position is high on BA&SK's wish list.

Dennis Pitta (6-4, 245, BYU) is a UFA but coming off a bad hip injury. When healthy he is one of the better pass catching TEs (61/669/7TDs in 2012).

The one UFA who might be a target is Brandon Pettigrew (6-5, 265, Oklahoma St.)---a very talented, once highly productive player who has struggled in recent years with injuries and drops. The hope would be to get him back on track to where he was in 2010 (71/722/4TD) and 2011 (83/777/5TD).

There are three highly rated TEs in this year's draft whom the Cardinals may consider with the #20 pick: Eric Ebron (6-4, 235, North Carolina); Jace Amaro (6-5, 257, Texas Tech ) and Austin Sefarian-Jenkins (6-6, 267, Washington).

Recap: Offensive Priorities

QB: Low
RB: Moderate
WR: Moderate/High
LT: High
LG: Low
C: Low
RG: Low
RT: Moderate
TE: High

Will add defense and STs in an hour or so.
 
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LT:

Bradley Sowell battled like a champion and actually helped to solidify the offensive line. However, BA had to tailor the offense to helping Sowell on pass protection, which is why BA&SK are adamant about making the LT position their #1 priority heading into free agency.

The four UFAs to watch are Brandon Albert (Chiefs), Eugene Monroe (Ravens), Jared Veldheer (Raiders) and Anthony Collins (Bengals).

Early rumors have the Cardinals targeting Albert...but my hunch is the guy with the inside track is Veldheer who protected Carson Palmer's blind side in Oakland. Veldheer is coming off an injury riddled season, so that's a concern---and the Raiders might f-tag him.

If Cbus' scout friend is correct, perhaps BA&SK are high on Monroe. Although, the Ravens have been expressing interest in sign ing him long term.

The plan is to sign a tested veteran LT.

It would be very hard to imagine BA&SK inserting a rookie LT into the lineup next year.

Agreed. LT has to be the priority. Especially since the Cards love to be flexable enough to draft a player that shouldn't really be there where they pick. ie. Ebron, Clinton-Dix, Amaro, Ealy, CB?

Sign a LT and have Sowell as the b/u. Of which he is decent enough.
 
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Colledge either has to start, re-structure, or be released. I don't see anyway they pay him $7mill to be a backup, nor should they.

I wouldn't mind Colledge taking a pay cut, being the RG, and have Fanaika be the backup. However, if a big FA signing for LT is in the offing it's more likely Colledge is released and his money used toward FA while Fanaika and Watford battle it out. That's not a bad option.

I hope Winston is back as well. He's a solid veteran leader that all good OL's sem to have.

I would love to see this offense add a LT in free agency and draft Ebron. What a weapon and dimension he would add. I wonder if Housler has any trade value whatsoever? Maybe if Whiz gets the Detroit job, the Cards could extract a late round pick for him. I would keep Ebron, Dray, and Ballard as the TE's. Maybe BA keeps 4 TE's, doubtul.

I think RB is going to be a bigger need than people think. Unless, Ryan Williams pulls a historic stunner, there's not a true lead back on the team. I'm still a huge Carlos Hyde fan and would love to see him and Ellington be the 1-2 punch.

It's a bad year for safeties in the draft but it looks to be a strong UFA class of free agents with the likes of TJ Ward(my choice), Donte Whitner, Malcolm Jenkins, Charles Woodson, Jarius Byrd, Antoine Bethea, Chris Clemons, Ryan Clark, Major Wright, and even Quentin Jammer all potentially being available and an upgrade over anything we have.

I think this may be the year to make maybe 1-2 big FA signings and be done with it. This roster is pretty talented and there doesn't seem to be a bunch of holes.

Adress LT and S in free agency, draft TE, OLB, RB, speed WR and this team could be scary good next year.

My dream draft, so far:
Ebron-TE
Michael Sam-OLB
Carlos Hyde-RB
Speed WR
Jimmy Garopollo-QB
Ben Gardner-DE
 
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LOLB:

Matt Shaughnessy found a niche at that spot. He has the strength to hold the edge and quick enough feet to chase plays. He does bite inside too often, which the 49ers exposed. One would think that Todd Bowles would like Shaughnessy to be re-signed. His toughness is one of the reasons why the Cardinals were so difficult to run against.

Sam Acho is good depth here and could reclaim the starting spot if Shaughnessy is not re-signed. However, it did appear that Shaughnessy was an upgrade to Acho.

Marcus Bernard was a pleasant surprise as the situation LDE in the four man pass rush. He is a restricted FA, so they will tender him.

If BA&SK do not re-sign Shaughnessy it might be because they have their eye on Kyle Van Noy (6-3, 245, BYU) or Trent Murphy (6-4, 261,Stanford), both of whom could be nice fits at the LOLB spot. A sleeper could be Scott Chrichton (6-3, 263, Oregon St.).

LDE:

Darnell Dockett was rejuvenated in TB's scheme. It would be generous of him to restructure his contract and it wouldn't surprise me if he did. The guy wants the team to re-sign Dansby and Shaughnessy. The guy wants to win the NFC West very badly.

Frostee Rucker emerged throughout the season as a productive and disruptive situational d-lineman. He is a UFA, but it would seem the Cardinals would like to have him back. Much may depend on what kind of interest he receives in free agency.

A player in the draft who could excel in Rucker's role is DE/DT Will Sutton (6-1, 278, Arizona St.). Sutton's quickness as an inside rusher is made to order for the Cardinals 4 man nickel rush because they want to funnel Wilson and Kaepernick into the teeth of the pocket.

Two more classic sized 34 DE prospects with significant upsides are Stephon Tuitt (6-5, 305, Notre Dame) and Ra'Shede Hageman (6-5, 302, Minnesota). If either one of these players is on the board at #20, a strong case for BPA could be made.

NT:

Dan Williams battled personal tragedy this season, yet turned in his best work down the stretch.

What a huge surprise Almeda Ta'amu was as Williams' backup and, at times, run stuffing mate. Ta'amu is going to need time to recover from his torn ACL. In the interim, the Cardinals will need to add another NT and might be tempted to take a good, long look at Louis Nix (6-3, 326, Notre Dame) or Daniel McCullers (6-6, 351, Tennessee).

Late pickup Anthony McCloud (6-2, 318, Florida St.) was signed to a future's contract.

The draft board at the end of the first round looks amply stocked with very good defensive linemen prospects.

RDE:

Calais Campbell turned in a Pro Bowl year for the Cardinals as a run stuffer and pass rusher. He won't win All Pro recognition because he's neither a traditional 43 DT or DE. Unless the All Pro people adopt a 34 DE category, Campbell will just keep slipping under the All Pro radar.

Ronald Talley was one of the top surprises in TC, but played sparingly as the season wore on. It seems the coaches like him---so one would imagine they will attempt to re-sign him at close to the minimum.

The there's a somewhat of a forgotten player who spend the year on the IR. He is Dan Giordano (6-4, 268, Cincinnati), who may be versatile enough to play 34 DE and 34 OLB.

ROLB:

John Abraham was one of the key reasons why the Cardinal went on a 7-2 tear. His quickness on the edge was the best the Cardinals have seen is quite some time and it helped Bradley Sowell prepare for the likes of Robert Quinn, Cliff Avril and Aldon Smith.

Lorenzo Alexander showed nowhere near the pass rushing ability that Abraham manifested. Nor did rookie Alec Okafor.

A guy who showed a couple flashes was Dontay Moch. He could become very important if he were to come back strong and up for the task.

This position becomes a need---if not for this year---but for 2015.

Some true speed rushers will be available at #20 but most of them are smaller than what TB likes.

LILB

Daryl Washington turned in another strong season, albeit a shortened one. Even with the $10M bonus he is due in March, his yearly salaries are reasonable for a player of his talent and skill. It would seem a given that the Cardinals will stick with Washington.

Jasper Brinkley played fairly well in Washington's absence. But Brinkley lacks the range and explosion that Washington brings. It's quite possible that Brinkley, will be traded or let go.

Kevin Minter is the kind of two down thumper the Cardinals have lacked in the middle and is patiently waiting his turn.

RILB

Karlos Dansby was named the MVP of the Cardinals' defense as he was all over the field making big plays. One could argue that it was his best season ever as a pro. Citing a stringent diet and conditioning regimen, Dansby has very lofty goals for himself. The question will be whether he will be happy with the contract that BA&SK offer him. My guess is that it would be in the $5M a year range---a little more than double his 2013 salary with the Cardinals.

If Dansby elects to play elsewhere, Minter joins Washington in the middle.

Plus, the Cardinals have a good young ILB prospect in Kenny Demens, who spent the season on the PS.

LCB:

Patrick Peterson was named an All Pro and was elected to his third straight Pro Bowl. He's a stud cover CB whom BA&SK would like to sign to a long term deal. It should be interesting to see what transpires here as Peterson will likely be looking for a king's ransom and the Cardinals will likely be needing as much cap space as possible in order to re-sign and add key players.

Antoine Cason came on strong down the stretch. However, it seems like Cason is looking for a starter's job somewhere else.

Justin Bethel never saw the light of day in the defense, but he earned himself a ticket to the Pro Bowl for his outstanding play on STs. Bethel is such a good athlete, tackler and competitor---could we learn as we did with Cason that he can play well in the defense when given a chance?

SS:

Yeremiah Bell was stout versus the run but struggled at times in coverage. He's a UFA and is well liked by TB. He wasn't commanding much more than the minimum anyway, so it's possible he will be given another one year deal. However, it would seem imperative that the Cardinals acquire a tall, fast, athletic SS who can cover the TE.

There are two such type players in the draft that come to mind: Ha-Sean Clinton-Dix (6-1, 209, Alabama) and Deone Bucannon (6-1, 198, Washington St.).

The Cardinals loved S Eric Reid and were hugely disappointed that the 49ers scooped him up in the first round. Reed has had a big year.

The Cardinals were hoping that Curtis Taylor would give them a presence at safety like Reid's, but thus farm Taylor's play has been inconsistent and it does not appear that he can handle man-to man-responsibilties on the best TEs.

FS:

Tyrann Mathieu gets my vote for most consistent player. He is one heckuva football player. There is nothing about playing DB that he isn't very good at. His focus is exemplary---he always knows where the ball is and for a rookie it was amazing how there was not wasted motion in his game whatsoever.

Rashad Johnson proved his mettle as a football player this season. Not only did he step up and make hits, he showed good awareness in coverage.

Tony Jefferson might be the answer at SS, that is if he can show that he can cover TEs. He's a good strong tackler and a fierce competitor. As it is now, with someone as flexible as Jefferson, TB can keep moving Tyrann Mathieu all over the field to key spots.

RCB:

Jerraud Powers came on strong down the stretch, that is when he was asked to cover WRs and not TEs (major struggle there---TM could do it, but not Jerraud).

However, the jury may still be out as to whether he is the short and or long-term answer at RCB because he may not be physical enough for TB's system. In the slot, he's fine, but on the perimeter, not so sure.

Bryan McCann is a very good ST player. My guess is that they will re-sign him for that purpose and possibly as an occasional nickel CB.

Javier Arenas never got on track this season as a CB or KR.

While it's not one of the most imminent needs---the Cardinals will very likely add a UFA CB and/or draft a CB. A player like Justin Gilbert (6-0, 195, Oklahoma St.) could be very tempting at #20.

A player I like a lot is Ross Cockrell (6-0, 182, Duke), Very under-rated, imo.

P:

One of the top priorities is to re-sign Dave Zastudil. That's a given.

LS:

Mike Leach---steady and reliable---will be back.

K:

Even if Jay Feely made all his FGs this season, because he is one of the weaker KO kickers in the league, it's unlikely he would have been re-signed. Had Dan Carpenter showed a stronger leg the last week of TC, he would have been the kicker this year. Feely is well liked as a teammate and he made several clutch FGs...but it doesn't seem enough at this point to think they will try to re-sign him.

UFA Nick Folk is a local favorite, although his TB % last year was about 40%. Graham Gano of the Panthers is a UFA and his TB % was an NFL best 77%. Plus he's made 24/27 FGs.

Defensive % ST Priorities Recap:

LOLB: Moderate/High (Starter)
LDE: Moderate (Backup)
NT: Moderate (Backup)
RDE: Moderate (Backup)
ROLB: Moderate (Young speed rusher)
LILB: Low
RILB: Moderate/High (Dansby)
LCB: Low
SS: High
FS: Low
RCB: Moderate
P: High
LS: Low
K: High

Back later with a FA and Draft Prediction.
 
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Tyrann Mathieu gets my vote for most consistent player. He is one heckuva football player. There is nothing about playing DB that he isn't very good at. His focus is exemplary---he always knows where the ball is and for a rookie it was amazing how there was not wasted motion in his game whatsoever.
He also was the best form tackler on the defense. Especially in the open field. For his size he can really tackle well.
 

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This offseason I think the focus will be speed and specialty. Speed WR, KR, TE, OlB or S that can cover a TE.

Free agency focus on LT, CB, TE

I think RW was not healthy mentally or physically last year. Bold prediction--he is our starter next year.
 

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Agreed. LT has to be the priority. Especially since the Cards love to be flexable enough to draft a player that shouldn't really be there where they pick. ie. Ebron, Clinton-Dix, Amaro, Ealy, CB?

Sign a LT and have Sowell as the b/u. Of which he is decent enough.

Agree. Nothing worse than going into the Draft and reaching for a high priority need early on. Getting LT sorted in FA really opens the first round up.
 

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Good job Mitch-----in my opinion there are two keys to getting these priorities done.

1. Getting a LTOF in Free Agency.

2. Re-signing Karlos Dansby

Accomplishing #1 paves the way for getting a very good TE in the draft.

Accomplishing E#2 paves the way toward re-signing nearly all of our other free agents this year, as it will show to all of them that the grass is actually greener here at home because Karlos has already experienced going away to look, and has returned to stay.

Those two key moves really influence the possibilities of completing all the other High priority moves. I believe that Keim and Dansby will arrive at some common ground, because I believe that BOTH of them want to.
 

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1) Re-structure Fitz contract
2? Re-structure Colledge contract or release
3) Re-sign Dansby
4) Extend PP is possible
5) Re-sign Winston
6) Sign LT Eugene Monroe

Draft:
#1 - CB Darqueze Dennard
#2 - OLB Jackson Jeffcoat
#3 - ILB Shane Skov
#4 - S Jimmy Ward
#5 - RB Tyler Gaffney
#6 - TE Chris Coyle
#7 - WR Jeff Janis
 

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Nice writeups Mitch! I thought I followed the Cardinals, but most of this stuff is new to me. I like that you present alternatives at each position. It's easy to say "Get rid of Feely." But what are you gonna do? Good kickers don't grow on trees. But you provided a couple options that make sense.
 

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Recap: Offensive Priorities

QB: Low
RB: Moderate
WR: Moderate/High
LT: High
LG: Low
C: Low
RG: Low
RT: Moderate
TE: High

Will add defense and STs in an hour or so.

A ton of good stuff Mitch. I would change LT from High need to critical. :D

Honestly, at this point I agree with all of this.
 

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Mines is easier.
1 Sign Karlos Dansby and the Zast

2 LT or TE in free agency

3 Draft QBOF and the LT or TE we didn't get in free agency

4 Punch anybody in the face at the bar suggesting we dump Larry (or that we even can) and still make a "run" in 2014. :D

(first 3 are good)
 

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Defensive % ST Priorities Recap:

LOLB: Moderate/High (Starter)
LDE: Moderate (Backup)
NT: Moderate (Backup)
RDE: Moderate (Backup)
ROLB: Moderate (Young speed rusher)
LILB: Low
RILB: Moderate/High (Dansby)
LCB: Low
SS: High
FS: Low
RCB: Moderate
P: High
LS: Low
K: High

Back later with a FA and Draft Prediction.

I'd rate LOLB low because we do have several LB's returning from IR but I agree with you, would really like Shaughnessy to be re-signed.

I'd love to have Los re-signed but if not then Minter will need to step up. Even if Dansby moves on I want Brinkley cut, too high a CAP cost for what he brings to the table IMO.

I think both Safety positions are a high priority because we don't know how soon HB will return from his knee injury and if we can still play at the same level.

I'm good with PP and Powers as our starting CB's but with Cason & Arenas probably not coming back depth at CB because at least a moderate need.

Isn't it amazing with how happy most of us are with how the team played that we still have sooo many areas that need addressing this offseason.
 

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Lyle Sendlein was a steady anchor of the line and winner of the Good Guy Award. He's under contract and should remain the starter. Mike Gibson is a solid backup, but is a UFA. The Cardinals signed two young PS centers to future's contracts, Philip Blake (6-3, 310, Baylor) and Tommie Draheim (6-4, 309, San Diego St.). If BA&SK are high enough on Blake or Draheim, they won't draft a center this year.

I would call Lyle's performance consistent, rather than steady. And winning the Good Guy Award is right up there with Most Back Hair Award. The two, (not so) young centers signed to future's contracts are 28 and 25 years old and have zero NFL game experience - combined.

I agree with your opinions and priorities in regard to the tackle positions, but I'm amazed how content fans are with the play of the interior line. Yes, the team has made a tremendous leap from abysmal to only pretty bad, but I don't think BA&SK are as enamoured with the personnel.

Gabe Ikard is athletic, versatile and very smart. He should be available in the 5th Round, or later. I mention how intelligent he is because it is normally the Center's responsibility to make the assignment adjustments on the line, and
his smarts should allow him to grasp NFL coaching, quickly.

There are higher priorities, and more than just the draft can solve, but would be very happy to see the Cards use a late round pick to upgrade this position.
 

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I would call Lyle's performance consistent, rather than steady. And winning the Good Guy Award is right up there with Most Back Hair Award. The two, (not so) young centers signed to future's contracts are 28 and 25 years old and have zero NFL game experience - combined.

I agree with your opinions and priorities in regard to the tackle positions, but I'm amazed how content fans are with the play of the interior line. Yes, the team has made a tremendous leap from abysmal to only pretty bad, but I don't think BA&SK are as enamoured with the personnel.

Gabe Ikard is athletic, versatile and very smart. He should be available in the 5th Round, or later. I mention how intelligent he is because it is normally the Center's responsibility to make the assignment adjustments on the line, and
his smarts should allow him to grasp NFL coaching, quickly.

There are higher priorities, and more than just the draft can solve, but would be very happy to see the Cards use a late round pick to upgrade this position.

Curious as to the difference between consistent and steady? (lol)
 

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Thanks for the write up Mitch. I didn't disagree with anything. I think our DE position is a higher need than most. With the impact guys like CC, watt and Justin smith can have on the game, I would love if we added another in the draft. Tuitt is one of my favorite players in the draft because he has all the physical traits to dominate like those guys. Teaming him up with CC And big Dan would draw so much attention from blockers our lbs will be able to run free.
 

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Justin Bethel never saw the light of day in the defense, but he earned himself a ticket to the Pro Bowl for his outstanding play on STs. Bethel is such a good athlete, tackler and competitor---could we learn as we did with Cason that he can play well in the defense when given a chance?

I caught Bethel on the last Big Red Rage podcast. Wolfley asked him what BA had to say to him during his exit interview. For Bethel, it was all about reaching his potential as a great CB. Apparently, they feel like he's an elite athlete and there's no reason he shouldn't be an elite CB.

Wolfley then said that there's 3 reasons elite athletes fail in the NFL. They can't handle the mental aspect, they can't handle the speed, and I forgot the third one. Then Wolfley puts him on the spot in a way, asking how he's doing with the mental side of things. Bethel said he was doing fine with it, they make it easy for him.

And of course Wolfley asked his obligatory "What are your goals?" question towards the end. And Bethel continued with talk of being an elite CB. So it sounds like there's going to be alot of pressure on this guy next year. BA opened the can of worms. Now let's see what happens.
 

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1) Re-structure Fitz contract
2? Re-structure Colledge contract or release
3) Re-sign Dansby
4) Extend PP is possible
5) Re-sign Winston
6) Sign LT Eugene Monroe

Draft:
#1 - CB Darqueze Dennard
#2 - OLB Jackson Jeffcoat
#3 - ILB Shane Skov
#4 - S Jimmy Ward
#5 - RB Tyler Gaffney
#6 - TE Chris Coyle
#7 - WR Jeff Janis

Why ILB? You had resign dansby so adding another guy behind dansby, minter AND washington? If Washingtons hearing goes bad and he faces more suspensions I get it but if he is here all year with dansby and Minter is behind them I dont see much use for another ILB in this years draft.
 

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I caught Bethel on the last Big Red Rage podcast. Wolfley asked him what BA had to say to him during his exit interview. For Bethel, it was all about reaching his potential as a great CB. Apparently, they feel like he's an elite athlete and there's no reason he shouldn't be an elite CB.

Wolfley then said that there's 3 reasons elite athletes fail in the NFL. They can't handle the mental aspect, they can't handle the speed, and I forgot the third one. Then Wolfley puts him on the spot in a way, asking how he's doing with the mental side of things. Bethel said he was doing fine with it, they make it easy for him.

And of course Wolfley asked his obligatory "What are your goals?" question towards the end. And Bethel continued with talk of being an elite CB. So it sounds like there's going to be alot of pressure on this guy next year. BA opened the can of worms. Now let's see what happens.

Love me some Bethel and truly hope he can start contributing on D. PP and Powers are a great starting tandem and HB as the nickel CB is also outstanding. Having said that having HB as our FS and Bethel as the nickel CB would be scary good.
 

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Of course, something has to be done about Larry Fitzgerald's prohibitive cap figures in 2014 and 2015. But, honestly, something also has to be done about the number of forced passes that were thrown Fitz's way. There is pressure to get Fitz his touches---and that pressure has hurt the offense at times.

Still hard to understand how the lions and texans can get Johnson & Johnson open all the time and the Cardinals can't figure out how to do the same for Fitzgerald.

By the way, Acho has been playing ROLB not left. Though I have always thought he was better suited for the strong side. There was talk that Acho would be moved to the strong side this season but it didn't happen.
 

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LOLB:

If BA&SK do not re-sign Shaughnessy it might be because they have their eye on Kyle Van Noy (6-3, 245, BYU) or Trent Murphy (6-4, 261,Stanford), both of whom could be nice fits at the LOLB spot.

I highly doubt that Keim would base his Free Agency decisions on the complete unknown of a specific player being available when the Cardinals draft.
 

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I highly doubt that Keim would base his Free Agency decisions on the complete unknown of a specific player being available when the Cardinals draft.

This. If the Cards don't re-sign Shaugnessy, it's because they can't afford him.
 

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