Artest demands trade

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Did Artest really say that he wants to leave? Oh my... Indy really has problems.

I actually think Artest would fit the team but if he comes, the first person that is going to be mad is Marion. lol I have a feeling that those two won't like each other.
 

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I'd take Artest over Spree any day of the week.

Get him out here in the sunny skies and teach him golf - i'd bet his attitude changes quite a bit.
 

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Some team might be willing to roll the dice on Artest but they'd never give equal value. The Pacers would have to take a serious talent cut.


The only way this happens is if the Pacers are so sick of Artest that they're just willing to dump him.
 

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I couldn't say "yes" fast enough if we could get Artest for Jim Jackson and our TE. Normally for that, we would get a much, much worse player than Artest, attitude or no.
 

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I doubt the Pacers will trade him. Most likely they'll have a meeting in which Artest is reassured of his value to the team, and then he'll come out with a statement about how he had been overreacting to some frustration.

For curiosity's sake, though, I wonder what kind of package could do the trick. Maybe Bell, Diaw, and the lesser of the two Atlanta picks? I know no one on this board would give that up, but if Indiana really decides to shop Artest, you can expect the bidding to get pretty serious.
 

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Phoenix Trades:
JJax $2.6mil
TE $3.6mil
LA/Boston Pick
Own 2007 Pick

Phoenix Gets:
Artest $6.5mil

Indiana Trades:
Artest $6.5mil

Indiana Gets:
JJax $2.6mil
Ely $2.4mil
Phoenix 2007 Pick

Charlotte Trades:
Ely $2.4mil

Charlotte Gets:
Boston/LA Pick

Suns Lineup when Amare returns:
Amare/Thomas
Marion/Diaw
Artest/Jones
Barbosa/Bell
Nash/House

Indiana gets JJax who fills the hole temporarily, while also getting a young PF/C.

Charlotte gets a nice pick in return for Ely.
 

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His current team Sounds as though they are none too pleased with Ronnie.


Artest: Team will be better off without me


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"I still think my past haunts me here," Artest told the newspaper in an exclusive interview. "I think somewhere else I'm starting fresh. I'm coming in with baggage, but people already know about it and how I'm going to be. Either they're going to be for me or they're not going to trade for me. Here I think my past haunts me."I think they will be a better team without me."

They weren't last season, when the Pacers lost Artest for 73 games for his role in a Nov. 19 brawl with the Pistons, in which Artest went into the stands after a fan.

"I think I cause a lot of problems here," Artest said. "If the trade rumors, if there is any truth — maybe it won't be a bad thing. They probably could win more games without me."

Coach Rick Carlisle seemed to disagree, calling Artest "one of the elite talents in the league" and saying, "You never want to lose someone like that."

Carlisle's praise notwithstanding, the Pacers coach appears to be one of the reasons Artest wants out of town.

"I'm so demanding of the ball. It's not my fault," he said. "Every time somebody is on me it's a mismatch. It messes up the offense. I like Coach (Carlisle) as a person, but I don't like playing for Coach. I like my team, though.

"Don't get it twisted. He's a very good coach," Artest said. "He knows what he's doing. I personally don't like playing for him. I would not want to see him get fired for me after all the immaturity I've been through with this organization."

Artest went on to say that "in a perfect world" he'd end up playing for his hometown Knicks.

The demand seemed to surprise Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh, who reportedly called the demand a distraction and ripped Artest's handling of the situation.

"I've never heard him say anything before," Walsh said. "He hasn't talked to me, and I see him every day.

"He can always come up and talk to me or Larry Bird," Walsh said. "From here on out, I expect Ronnie to be a professional. . . . (This) isn't the best way to get a trade done."

It'll be tough to get a trade done, period. Or at least, a trade that brings something of value back to the Pacers. Artest's public trade demand and his history of earning season-crippling suspensions are bad enough. But then there's his contract. Artest makes just $6.5 million per year, which means it'll be difficult finding a comparable player with a salary that matches up.

 

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Indiana gets JJax who fills the hole temporarily, while also getting a young PF/C.

Nowhere near enough, even with the late first-round pick thrown in.

Artest is an All-Star level player, a genuine game changer, in the prime of his career, healthy, and on a good contract. We aren't talking about trying to trade Shaquille O'Neal or Vince Carter here. The only negative about Artest is his attitude. That's enough to bring his value down somewhat, but not to the point where the Pacers would have to accept a partial-year rental of a veteran role player, a lottery bust, and a future pick at the end of the first round.
 

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For curiosity's sake, though, I wonder what kind of package could do the trick. Maybe Bell, Diaw, and the lesser of the two Atlanta picks?

Actually, I could see the Pacers possibly accepting that package with Barbosa instead of Diaw. If Jasikevicius continues to pan out, he and Barbosa could make quite an effective backcourt, and Bell would bring some of Artest's defensive toughness. Throw in a mid-round pick and it's at least enough to make the Pacers think about it.
 

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elindholm said:
For curiosity's sake, though, I wonder what kind of package could do the trick. Maybe Bell, Diaw, and the lesser of the two Atlanta picks? I know no one on this board would give that up, but if Indiana really decides to shop Artest, you can expect the bidding to get pretty serious.

That is so over paying for him its not funny. I wouldn't trade Diaw for Artest straight up. Seriously. That trade right there would be a set back for the Suns for years.
 

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That is so over paying for him its not funny. I wouldn't trade Diaw for Artest straight up. Seriously. That trade right there would be a set back for the Suns for years.


:bang:


Talk about homerism there. Diaw has had maybe 10 good games, and while he looks pretty good - Artest is an animal. He has an amazing offensive game while being reigned in by Carlisle. D'Antoni would give him the freedom to really show what he can do.

Oh, and he is quite simply the best perimeter defender in the league. Hands down.
 

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The reason the Suns are winning is because they are a very unselfish team. Artest is a good player, but he'd destroy the brotherhood that the Suns have been able to have the last two seasons.

I'd be pissed to see Artest as a Sun. He's not worth it.
 

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thegrahamcrackr said:
:bang:


Talk about homerism there. Diaw has had maybe 10 good games, and while he looks pretty good - Artest is an animal. He has an amazing offensive game while being reigned in by Carlisle. D'Antoni would give him the freedom to really show what he can do.

Oh, and he is quite simply the best perimeter defender in the league. Hands down.

No kidding. I would never expect that from JCSunsfan. Given free reign in an open system, Artest would flourish. The ONLY thing that would cause reservations for us would be the attitude. And I think he would be extremely happy in our kind of system, and in turn that would help immensely with his attitude.
 

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thegrahamcrackr said:
:bang:


Talk about homerism there. Diaw has had maybe 10 good games, and while he looks pretty good - Artest is an animal. He has an amazing offensive game while being reigned in by Carlisle. D'Antoni would give him the freedom to really show what he can do.

Oh, and he is quite simply the best perimeter defender in the league. Hands down.

Artest is easily in the top 20 maybe top 15 range of players, The guy shuts your number 1 scorer down and adds scores 20 points. Diaw is a guy who has played very little amount of games and is in a system that fits his talents perfectly. I would trade a number pick Jackson and Diaw for Artest. But the Pacers would never take the trade, because Artest is an amazing player
 

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Well I think we can assume that the Pacers are going to try and move him west if they trade him at all. He wants to go to the Knicks, and said he would even come off the bench behind LBJ in Cleveland.

He also claims that if he was traded west he would go to NY when his contract was up. Of course I don't think that is going to happen, as it currently stands the Knicks will be at about 45 million in both years Artest could become a FA (he has a PO to end his deal).

Artest is a serious gamble to take, but the possible payout could be huge. We are talking about a very gifted scorer who is also a lockdown defender. Overall, it seems like his teammates love him - he is just crazy. Of course, his contract is so amazing right now it almost makes up for it.

At this stage, I am not sure if he is a gamble I would want to take. I would most definitely feel out the situation though and see where it goes.
 

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I hope he doesn't go to the Kings. He'd be a thorn in our sides for years to come. The Knicks or the Cavs would be alright...just keep him back in the East.
 

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I suspect that Artest's problem in Indy is that he so wants to be the #1 offensively, over Oneal. this alone makes him unfit here. On talent level alone, I'd trade Bell, LB and the two picks from JJ trade for him, or Marion for him plus some throw-ins.
 

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I'm on the fence on this one. Artest is undoubtedly an elite player, but given his past history it's not quite a slam dunk. I think if there's anyone that can calm him down a bit it would be Nash.

If we can find a way to get him without losing the core (to me this includes Bell and Diaw) then I say do it. Of course, this is probably unlikely to happen but could you imagine a lineup of Bell, Artest, Marion, Diaw, Thomas? Now that would be a lockdown team, especially on the perimeter.
 

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