ASU @ Georgia

[ajcardfan]

Yes................... I did watch it.
Did you watch the first half?
Where the defense committed two stupid undisciplined third down penalties that would have stopped drives? Instead, Georgia scored twice as a direct resullt of those penalties.
Who knows what would have happened if those penalties had not occured but on the other hand you can't ignore them.
I don't expect a lot from the offense, I'm not a Sullivan fan at all.
I do however expect the defense to win us games. In the first half they did not do that.

Yeah, I understand the penalties were costly mistakes. But, when the offense generated only three points you want to put ALL the blame on the defense? Jeez, they played their guts out at least. I can't say the same about the offense.

Eh, to each his own I guess.

 

[Nasser22]

Nance showed he deserved to be the starter tonight. Made me proud seeing that. Vontaze is amazing...Erickson comparing him to Ray Lewis already. We'll see

 

[lauraw]

What did the announcers say about Burfict? I assume they weren't homers, so how did they impress the ESPN knuckleheads??

 

[PoolBoy]

that defense is amazing. AMAZING.

Sullivan is terrible. TERRIBLE.

 

[TucsonDevil]

Stupid fouls... very mediocre quarterback... strong, nearly great defensive front. The cornerbacks gave up long pass plays all night.

Almost a great win, but instead it was a terrible, disappointing loss.

The freshman kicker really hurt the Devils as well. The kickoffs were terrible, and with the lack of confidence is his FG kicking, it effected play calling.

oh.. and did I mention Sullivan is just not very good?

 

[ajcardfan]

What did the announcers say about Burfict? I assume they weren't homers, so how did they impress the ESPN knuckleheads??

They RAVED about him, especially in the 4th quarter. He had a fantastic game, and they hyped him up a lot more than any other ASU guy.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Watched a bit of the replay last night as I was watching the UA game live. Burfict is ridiculous, Sullivan not so much.

 

[ajcardfan]

Watched a bit of the replay last night as I was watching the UA game live. Burfict is ridiculous, Sullivan not so much.

He could play on Sundays right now. I've never said that about an ASU freshman.

 

[clif]

Would love to see ASU win, but there is not a chance in hell that happens. Sullivan is mediocre at best and is a sitting duck behind that OL. The WR's are mediocre and guaranteed to drop passes. I have seen nothing in these first two games to give me any hope that this offense will even muster 14 points against UGA in Athens. Every single year ASU has a supposed big game they melt and fizzle.

The defense will make it entertaining, but in the end UGA will get be playing at a different level than ASU.

Sigh. I didn't want to be right, but I was. I didn't get to see the game, but it does not surprise me. Huge props to the D for keeping it close, but Erickson is wasting everyone's time with Sullivan.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

He could play on Sundays right now. I've never said that about an ASU freshman.

Yep, he's very special.

Regarding ASU's QB situation - have you heard why they are burning a year of Osweiler's eligibility riding the bench when he's supposedly the future of the program? I know Erickson's track record and success at every college stop but this makes little sense to me.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Yep, he's very special.

Regarding ASU's QB situation - have you heard why they are burning a year of Osweiler's eligibility riding the bench when he's supposedly the future of the program? I know Erickson's track record and success at every college stop but this makes little sense to me.

It just makes no sense that Sullivan started the 2nd half. He has no upside, he'll never play again after this year, and we don't have Rose Bowl aspirations either way. Why not get Osweiler valuable experience? In every situation, Osweiler has looked at least as good as Sullivan. It just makes no sense at all.

 

[HooverDam]

Yep, he's very special.

Regarding ASU's QB situation - have you heard why they are burning a year of Osweiler's eligibility riding the bench when he's supposedly the future of the program? I know Erickson's track record and success at every college stop but this makes little sense to me.

Samson S was injured the first two games of this year and was totally unable to play due to his elbow, Brock had to suit up so he could backup Sullivan.

I also don't think Osweiler is being viewed as 'the future of the program', he may be, but he certainly hasnt been christened so by anyone. He'll have to compete for the job next year w/ Samson S, Steven Threet and Peter Thomas all who were much more heavily recruited than Osweiler for whatever thats worth.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Samson S was injured the first two games of this year and was totally unable to play due to his elbow, Brock had to suit up so he could backup Sullivan.

Doesn't mean you had to play him and burn a year of eligibility.

I also don't think Osweiler is being viewed as 'the future of the program', he may be, but he certainly hasnt been christened so by anyone. He'll have to compete for the job next year w/ Samson S, Steven Threet and Peter Thomas all who were much more heavily recruited than Osweiler for whatever thats worth.

It's probably pretty safe to say that Samson is out of the picture at this point.

 

[HooverDam]

Doesn't mean you had to play him and burn a year of eligibility.

Sullivan didn't exactly have a strangle hold on the starting job, so Osweiler was given a chance.

Like I said, I'm not worried about it, I'd be pretty surprised if he is ASUs QB of the future.

EDIT: Also I asked my Step Dad last night, who was enrolled at Arizona State College back in the day so that tells you how long he's been around, if ASU has ever had a worse starting QB and he said he doesn't think so. So hooray for that!

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Some of the guys ASU had when I was in college were pretty bad from what I remember. Guy like Steve Campbell, Jeff Krohn, Christiansen, etc. I don't think Sullivan is any worse or better than those guys.

 

[HooverDam]

^Id take any of them over Sully. Campbell didn't exactly 'lead' ASU to the Sun Bowl but he was on the team that got there and won, from what Ive seen so far I can't imagine Sully doing that.

Did either Christiansen or Krohn even end up starting every game for a whole season? I have a terrible memory, Id have to look it up. But if Sullivan ends up starting every game for ASU this year Id have to put him at least in the running for worst ASU QB in my memory (which only goes back to about Marmies last year) that accomplished that feet.

EDIT: I hope Sullivan has a lot riding on this OSU game. If he comes out and lays his 4th turd in a row and Erickson keeps going with him its going to be pretty frustrating.

 

[SunDevilDon]

Cox doesnt carry ESPNU, so if youre a Cox Customer youre going to have to go to a bar or something to watch the game.

My buddy has COX and he has ESPNU - channel 164 if I remember correctly.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I hope Sullivan has a lot riding on this OSU game. If he comes out and lays his 4th turd in a row and Erickson keeps going with him its going to be pretty frustrating.

This game should tell you a lot. With the game at home and with ideal weather conditions along with OSU's awful secondary if Sullivan can't get it going then one would think Erickson would have to move on.

 

[devilalum]

Erickson sees all the players in practice every day, Sullivan sucks but Erickson must believe that the others suck worse or are so not ready that they'd crap their pants if him threw them into a big game.

 

[devilfan02]

Our WR's are vastly overrated - Kyle Williams in particular. IMO, Sullivan gave us every opportunity to win that game in the 4th quarter but our TE's and WR's let him down. It was probably the most frustrating ending to a hard fought game...

I was at the game and haven't watched a replay yet but the drops by Williams and Knapp were inexcusable.

Sullivan did not have a good game but our line gave him no time to hit his WR's downfield like Cox did. As I said earlier in the pregame prediction, it will be hard for ASU to win big games until our OL gives the offense time/room to operate. However, Sullivan needs to make more plays and hit WR's who are wide open across the middle (he airmailed a couple WR's, the Mcgaha one was bad). The weather in the first half was miserable and both QB's struggled to move the ball.

This week is a big game for Sullivan. IMO, the only reason why he's still in is because he hasn't turned the ball over much. Oz will be in quickly if that starts happening. I'm not defending Sullivan because I don't think he's good but I do feel that our WR's/TE's are not getting as much heat as they should. Sullivan threw the ball well enough on our last 2 drives to win us that game

 

[devilfan02]

Also, props to Nance and the run blocking of our OL. I'm the first one to trash them but they played great (run blocking good but pass blocking awful). The OL gave Nance daylight all game and he was also solid catching balls out of the backfield. Hopefully this continues but our entire OL returned to Tempe injured so it's doubtful

 

[devilfan02]

^Id take any of them over Sully. Campbell didn't exactly 'lead' ASU to the Sun Bowl but he was on the team that got there and won, from what Ive seen so far I can't imagine Sully doing that.

Did either Christiansen or Krohn even end up starting every game for a whole season? I have a terrible memory, Id have to look it up. But if Sullivan ends up starting every game for ASU this year Id have to put him at least in the running for worst ASU QB in my memory (which only goes back to about Marmies last year) that accomplished that feet.

EDIT: I hope Sullivan has a lot riding on this OSU game. If he comes out and lays his 4th turd in a row and Erickson keeps going with him its going to be pretty frustrating.

Jeff Krohn was one of the all time worst QB's in Sun Devil history. He routinely skipped passes to WR's on 15yd outs. He was miserable.

Chad crapped the bed but it's hard to tell what would have happened if he didn't have Walter behind him. His first start was in Lincoln and he basically lost his job that day. Walter came in the 2nd half and started zinging it all over the place. I bet Chad could have turned it around because he's very athletic and very smart. IMO, he could have been a better version of Rudy.

 

[HooverDam]

. IMO, Sullivan gave us every opportunity to win that game in the 4th quarter...I was at the game and haven't watched a replay yet but the drops by Williams and Knapp were inexcusable.

Go re-watch the game, Sullivan was a nightmare. While some of those passes could've been caught you can't really say any of them should've been caught. The one to Williams in particular was quite high (Williams had to jump) and behind him. Not to mention the next time Sullivan throws a tight spiral it'll be the first time, his wabbly passes (especially in the rain) probably aren't the easiest things to catch.

 

[devilfan02]

Go re-watch the game, Sullivan was a nightmare. While some of those passes could've been caught you can't really say any of them should've been caught. The one to Williams in particular was quite high (Williams had to jump) and behind him. Not to mention the next time Sullivan throws a tight spiral it'll be the first time, his wabbly passes (especially in the rain) probably aren't the easiest things to catch.

Knapp and Williams blew it, period. All they had to do was catch one of those balls and we most likely win. I remember Williams diving for that ball but the Knapp drops were horrible. You have to make those catches, have to

 

[HooverDam]

Knapp and Williams blew it, period.

You have no idea how stupid you sound when you say something and then you back up that point with "period." I can say "The moon is made of cheese, period" and that doesn't make my statement any stronger or more correct, it just makes me sound silly.

You've admitted you were at the game, and haven't seen a replay. That means you were far away from the field, watching the game through the rain, and probably very emotional at the time. If youve got the game on DVR, re-watch it. Yes the WRs could've caught more of Sullivans passes but they would've been very difficult catches, should ASUs wideouts be expected to make miracle catches on every play? As far as players go Danny Sullivan cost ASU the game. Rich Olsen and Dennis Erickson didn't help either, but thats a whole 'nother ball of wax.