Bartell should get the start if fall to 1-5..

[Cards_Campos]

He looked the best in pre season....Kolb just gets to scared...he panics way to much. Ahsme because you cant tell that from his other starts...but its a trend that is really obvious.

 

[Bodha]

Had we had even average game management at the end, we wouldve won


I want Whiz gone before we give up on Kolb

 

[Chopper0080]

He looked the best in pre season....Kolb just gets to scared...he panics way to much. Ahsme because you cant tell that from his other starts...but its a trend that is really obvious.

This would be a stupid move. You gave up a lot to only give the guy 4 games.

 

[Shaggy]

Kolb shouldn't be benched. He just needs to stop being so sketish. Whats up with Skelton BTW, he has been suited up the last 2 games?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He looked the best in pre season....Kolb just gets to scared...he panics way to much. Ahsme because you cant tell that from his other starts...but its a trend that is really obvious.

A candidate for stupidest thread of the year.

 

[Cards_Campos]

A candidate for stupidest thread of the year.

YEA lol...that is funny. We have lost 3 games because our team couldnt keep the lead on a 3rd grade soccer team. Our QB has 4 turnovers in crucial times...and this is the dumbest thread. You are funny....only good thing about you is you went to Ohio State.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Bartell????

 

[Cards_Campos]

I think Skelton isnt the future either...so we might as well see Bartell...that way if we go 3-13 this year we can see if we have to draft a QB> Kolb goes 1-5 against our schedule...he deserves the bench!!!! We play another crappy team next week.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You can't give up on Kolb after 4 or 6 or 16 games. He just needs to relax in the pocket. That comes with playing time.

 

[conraddobler]

I say he starts every game this year, we have to check him completely out, you don't bail on a guy like that in year one.

 

[Duckjake]

Bartell????

Bartel can play. Just look at all the people who were bashing Wells for being injury prone this week because it was the fashionable thing to do. So don't just throw him out because its the conventional wisdom. He might not be any better because we haven't seen him play other than a half in a throw away game. But the guys not junk.

Kolb looks like a rabbit surrounded by coyotes. He's awful. That play where he ran around behind Bridges and threw the ball right into the defender was beyond bad.

The protection got much better once Bridges came in for Keith and yet Kolb was still panicking in the pocket. Watch how cool Brady is in the pocket the first .5 to 2.5 seconds after he gets the snap. You don't see him running off at the count of two.

 

[conraddobler]

Bartel can play. Just look at all the people who were bashing Wells for being injury prone this week because it was the fashionable thing to do. So don't just throw him out because its the conventional wisdom. He might not be any better because we haven't seen him play other than a half in a throw away game. But the guys not junk.

Kolb looks like a rabbit surrounded by coyotes. He's awful. That play where he ran around behind Bridges and threw the ball right into the defender was beyond bad.

The protection got much better once Bridges came in for Keith and yet Kolb was still panicking in the pocket. Watch how cool Brady is in the pocket the first .5 to 2.5 seconds after he gets the snap. You don't see him running off at the count of two.

I like Bartel too but absent an injury I don't see how in the world you could justify this.

I'd do it but then I didn't pay 60 million dollars and DRC for Kolb and even if you did it's a sunk cost, has no bearing on your decisions from then on but that's now how these people think.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Bartel can play. Just look at all the people who were bashing Wells for being injury prone this week because it was the fashionable thing to do. So don't just throw him out because its the conventional wisdom. He might not be any better because we haven't seen him play other than a half in a throw away game. But the guys not junk.

Kolb looks like a rabbit surrounded by coyotes. He's awful. That play where he ran around behind Bridges and threw the ball right into the defender was beyond bad.

The protection got much better once Bridges came in for Keith and yet Kolb was still panicking in the pocket. Watch how cool Brady is in the pocket the first .5 to 2.5 seconds after he gets the snap. You don't see him running off at the count of two.

Kolb definitely needs to improve his pocket presence but Bartell, is very likely not the answer either. Skelton may have a chance and I don't see how he can be any more jitterish than Kolb has been,. In fact Skelton looked calm in the pocket. Still, you have to give KK time.

 

[Duckjake]

I like Bartel too but absent an injury I don't see how in the world you could justify this.

I'd do it but then I didn't pay 60 million dollars and DRC for Kolb and even if you did it's a sunk cost, has no bearing on your decisions from then on but that's now how these people think.

That is exactly why I posted earlier that Bartel would never get a chance unless Kolb was hurt and no one wants that.

And exactly why the Cardinals mistakenly moved Leonard Davis to Left Tackle, then let him go and passed on Adrian Peterson to draft Levi Brown and then moved Levi Brown to LT. Making decisions based on the money a guy makes makes your team 5-11.

 

[CtCardinals78]

You can't give up on Kolb after 4 or 6 or 16 games. He just needs to relax in the pocket. That comes with playing time.

And with an Oline that can pass pro

 

[Duckjake]

And with an Oline that can pass pro

So you are saying Kolb will be a good QB if he goes to play for another team?

 

[CtCardinals78]

So you are saying Kolb will be a good QB if he goes to play for another team?

Or if the Cards get a couple of bonafide NFL caliber OT which is something they should have done this offseason. A legit #2 WR wouldn't hurt either.

 

[Duckjake]

Or if the Cards get a couple of bonafide NFL caliber OT which is something they should have done this offseason. A legit #2 WR wouldn't hurt either.

Sort of like saying that I'll have a great car if I get a new engine, and some new tires, and overhaul the transmission and maybe a new paint job. How long will upgrading the OTs and WRs take? Two years so far with no improvement?

Again my concern is that once Bridges came in the pressure lessened and Kolb was still playing scared. Unless CKW can figure out how to calm him down we are in for a season exactly like 2010 because our defense still thinks blowing leads in the 2nd half is what they are paid for.

I mean Kolb was throwing the ball at our WRs before they were 2/3rds of the way through their routes when he was under no real pressure. Get the ball and chuck it as fast as you can doesn't work.

 

[NJCardFan]

He looked the best in pre season....Kolb just gets to scared...he panics way to much. Ahsme because you cant tell that from his other starts...but its a trend that is really obvious.

You honestly think Bartel will fare better behind Brown and Keith? Kolb is a good QB but he has happy feet right now. He obviously has no confidence in his outer offensive line. Oddly enough, the interior has been doing a good job but the tackles, just put 2 chairs wearing jerseys. Believe me, the chairs would be an improvement.

 

[NJCardFan]

Watch how cool Brady is in the pocket the first .5 to 2.5 seconds after he gets the snap. You don't see him running off at the count of two.

Put Brady behind this offensive line and Giselle would make him retire.

 

[Duckjake]

Put Brady behind this offensive line and Giselle would make him retire.

Sure and Adrian Peterson would have been a failure in Arizona playing with Warner, Fitz and Boldin behind our offensive line.

 

[Sunryze88]

I'd rather see Skelton over Bartel. Skelton has all the physical skills to be an awesome QB. He even performs in the clutch! I know the game didn't matter but the one game I went to last year against the Cowboys on Christmas. 4th-15, Skelton delivers a strike to Larry for a first down. Drives the ball upfield for the game winning field goal. Ofcourse he is extremely raw but I think sitting on the bench for a couple years he will be awesome. I'm not saying bench Kolb though. I would give Kolb atleast two years before thinking about switch QBs.

 

[Jersey Girl]

I know this is a horrible loss, but keep it civil.

 

[nashman]

Gets my vote for dumbest thread so far this season! Kolb is NEW hello give the freaking guy a chance if it were for terrible playcalling and some questionable officiating this team could be 4-0 as easy as they are 1-3. We lost these games IMO by terrible coaching that's fairly obvious. Coach whiz is always trying to be cute or out think people when it's the exact opposite of what we should be doing it's ridiculous and infuriating to watch!

 

[Duckjake]

Gets my vote for dumbest thread so far this season! Kolb is NEW hello give the freaking guy a chance if it were for terrible playcalling and some questionable officiating this team could be 4-0 as easy as they are 1-3. We lost these games IMO by terrible coaching that's fairly obvious. Coach whiz is always trying to be cute or out think people when it's the exact opposite of what we should be doing it's ridiculous and infuriating to watch!

NEW! This was game 4. Plus pre season plus 4 years in Philly. Plus playing for one of the best QB coaches in the college game today. Kolb isn't Skelton fresh off the Fordham campus for goodness sake.