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espnnews is reporting that beltran is going to sign with the mets
 

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It's not really official yet. They're prediciting him to go there.

Now, they said it's almost 0 chance of him signing with the Astros since the deadline has passed.
 

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i bet with everyone else pulling out, i bet the mets will lower there offer and then he will take the cubs offer, just a huntch

he is a bumb anyway, he has not put the numbers up to justify the money he wants
 

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Ok, so he is gettin paid because of his postseason performanc, big whoop, Shane Spencer had a huge postseason for the Yanlees one year and where is he know? In Japan I think.
 

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Are we really compaing Shane Spenecer to Carlos Beltran? I hope not
 

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Mojo said:
Are we really compaing Shane Spenecer to Carlos Beltran? I hope not
Why not, he was highly touted(SP?) prospect who had a huge postseason and Beltran had never put up all that impressive of numbers except fot the 38 homers his year, but most of those were him in Houston and the is the one of the top 3 hitters parks in baseball and he is beonmg pain on a hot streak during the postseason from lst year, so I think that you can compare them in that sense.
 

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bankybruce said:
Why not, he was highly touted(SP?) prospect who had a huge postseason and Beltran had never put up all that impressive of numbers except fot the 38 homers his year, but most of those were him in Houston and the is the one of the top 3 hitters parks in baseball and he is beonmg pain on a hot streak during the postseason from lst year, so I think that you can compare them in that sense.


You have to be insane, to compare Beltran and Shane Spencer, did you become a baseball fan in the last year?

"Beltran had never put up all that impressive of numbers except fot the 38 homers his year"

This is one of the most ludicrous statements I've seen in my life.
Here are his stats, before this year:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/player?categoryId=85146

shane spencer, :biglaugh:
 

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I don't know what is not impressive about Beltran's numbers as a 27 year old CF. He's damn near a 40-40 player that walks as much as he SO's. Look again. And there is a reason shane spencer has never had more than 395 AB's in a season. He's a 4th OF.
 

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When I am comparing the 2, I am comparing the season in which Spencer got called up and he was suppose to the the next great thing and had a huge post season and everyone knew his name for that. I am comparing that to the fact that Pete Gammons said on ESPN the he is going to get paid because of his postseason performance and he is asking for this kind of money because of that performance, because there is no way he desrves 17 million a year for his numbers. He is career 284 hitter with lony 3 season hitting over 273, only this year did he hit more than 30 homers and I believe that has to do with Minute Maid Park more than him. I know he is way better than Shane Spencer, I was comparing the situations, but lets compare numbers and saleries from the last year and what they will make this year or other good to great players.

Beltran 9mil last year 17mil this next year
159 599 121 160 36 9 38 104 92 101 42 3 .267 .367 .548 .915
G AB R H 2B 3BHR RBI BB SO SBCSAVG OBP SLG OPS

Moises Alou 9.5mil last year 6.625mil this next year
155 601 106 176 36 3 39 106 68 80 3 0 .293 .361 .557 .919
G AB R H 2B3BHR RBI BB SOSBCSAVG OBP SLG OPS

JD Drew 4.2mil last year 11mil this next year
145 518 118 158 28 8 31 93 118 116 12 3 .305 .436 .569 1.006
G AB R H 2B3BHR RBI BB SO SBCSAVG OBP SLG OPS
I think in his cas had he play 10 to 12 more games his RBI would match Beltrans and he is only 2 years older and is had half of the errors Beltran has for a career.

And for my biggest case that he does not deserve that money
Adrian Beltre 5mil last year 12.8mil this next year
156 598 104 200 32 0 48 121 53 87 7 2 .334 .388 .629 1.017
G AB R H 2B3BHR RBI BB SOSBCSAVG OBP SLG OPS
Beltre is 2 years younger and play what I think is the second hardest place to play next to catcher, which is thirdbase

That is my take on it
 

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Mojo said:
Are we really compaing Shane Spenecer to Carlos Beltran? I hope not
Beltran is pretty good. He adds all the things beyond hardcore numbers. Batting for avg and power, speed on the base paths and in the field, strong arm and he's young. I'd give anything to have him in CF at Bank One! he's a top 5 player in the league for sure. :thumbup:
 
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