Best #1 pick for 3-4 Defense

[Snakester]

No report on that yet but Keim confirmed 3-4 scheme DC.

Can’t see us drafting Bosa then if we are going back to a 3-4. If he has a weakness it’s standing up and or dropping into coverage.

 

[TheCardFan]

Can’t see us drafting Bosa then if we are going back to a 3-4. If he has a weakness it’s standing up and or dropping into coverage.

Then trade down with someone who wants Bosa. I don't want SF to get him.

 

[Buckeye Cardinal]

Go ahead on passing on Bosa.

Doubtful if KK says Bosa sucks.

 

[kerouac9]

Can’t see us drafting Bosa then if we are going back to a 3-4. If he has a weakness it’s standing up and or dropping into coverage.

Yeah, but you don't do that often in a well-designed 3-4, and most of the time you're playing in nickel anyway.

If you can line him up on the strong-side and have him hold the edge against an RT or blocking TE, you're going to be in pretty good shape.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Because he would be lining up as an DE...

???

D-end in a 3-4 seems like a waste of his pass rush ability. We didn't lineup Golden or Jones at D-end in a 3-4.

 

[scandalous_b]

Put on the tape, and tell me there is a better defensive player than Josh Allen, he can rush the passer, he can drop in coverage, he tackles in space, he is great in run defense. This guy is a special player.

Okay.

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[Ohcrap75]

Plus I wouldn't waste a #1 overall pick on a 3-4 DE.

J.J. Watt and Clowney? I just think that any player that is stout against the run and can get double digit sacks is incredibly valuable no matter what scheme or position you want to classify them as

 

[kerouac9]

J.J. Watt and Clowney? I just think that any player that is stout against the run and can get double digit sacks is incredibly valuable no matter what scheme or position you want to classify them as

Aaron Donald.

 

[scandalous_b]

J.J. Watt and Clowney? I just think that any player that is stout against the run and can get double digit sacks is incredibly valuable no matter what scheme or position you want to classify them as

Neither of those guys are 3-4 DE. They are both edge rushers that you would consider to be typical 4-3 DEs.

 

[JeffGollin]

We have pass rush talent in C Jones and Golden.

We're not all that bullet proof vs. runs between the tackles.

And then there's the issue of #2 CB.

If we draft according to need, we should be looking long and hard at NT and CB.

If we draft according to BPA, Bosa becomes part of the conversation along with a stud wide receiver or franchise LT if the right one is available.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Neither of those guys are 3-4 DE. They are both edge rushers that you would consider to be typical 4-3 DEs.

I would think J.J. pretty much the prototype for 5 tech. I wouldn’t consider passing on him or Donald no matter what scheme is in place. They are game wreckers.

 

[Wildfire]

Now that we are sure about the base scheme, who is the best fit?

Bosa?

Q or Oliver in a trade down?

Anyone else?

Trade down because teams will want to move up to draft Bosa, Allen, and Q. Williams. Pick up another pick and draft Greedy Williams.
Williams will be the shut down corner back that we've been looking for.

 

[GuernseyCard]

We have pass rush talent in C Jones and Golden.

We're not all that bullet proof vs. runs between the tackles.

And then there's the issue of #2 CB.

If we draft according to need, we should be looking long and hard at NT and CB.

If we draft according to BPA, Bosa becomes part of the conversation along with a stud wide receiver or franchise LT if the right one is available.

We need 5 technique D-ends,

We have pass rush talent in C Jones and Golden.

We're not all that bullet proof vs. runs between the tackles.

And then there's the issue of #2 CB.

If we draft according to need, we should be looking long and hard at NT and CB.

If we draft according to BPA, Bosa becomes part of the conversation along with a stud wide receiver or franchise LT if the right one is available.

We have a NT and a backup can be found later in the draft.

 

[AZCrazy]

If we pick up Bosa, maybe Golden as the odd man out can move inside. He's the biggest and strongest of our linebackers, can shed, tackle, rush, and cover. He'd be a hell of an upgrade as our masher ILB, and would immediately improve our interior run defense while allowing our outside pass rushers to be Bosa and Jones, immediately the best pair in the NFL.

 

[iLLmatiC]

We have pass rush talent in C Jones and Golden.

We're not all that bullet proof vs. runs between the tackles.

And then there's the issue of #2 CB.

If we draft according to need, we should be looking long and hard at NT and CB.

If we draft according to BPA, Bosa becomes part of the conversation along with a stud wide receiver or franchise LT if the right one is available.

But Jeff, the experts say you don't take a DT with a number 1 pick lol

 

[iLLmatiC]

If we pick up Bosa, maybe Golden as the odd man out can move inside. He's the biggest and strongest of our linebackers, can shed, tackle, rush, and cover. He'd be a hell of an upgrade as our masher ILB, and would immediately improve our interior run defense while allowing our outside pass rushers to be Bosa and Jones, immediately the best pair in the NFL.

I'm not sure about that, I don't think Golden has the speed to hit the gaps.

 

[az jam]

Marcus Golden will be a free agent. He will test the market and most likely be gone.

 

[jlove]

I'm ok with Bosa and maybe Allen. I was trying to get hyped about Q Williams, but his last 2 games, I didn't see much. He didn't / couldn't do much against those OL's to warrant a Top pick or Top 3.

Like I've said before, a trade down with Oakland at 4 and try to get one of their late 1sts they're getting from Dallas or Chicago would be great. I'd even consider a trade to 6 or 7 so they can grab their QB in Haskins or Murray if he comes out. If we trade to 6 or 7, I'd grab N'Keal Harry (if he's projected to be taken early and fear of losing out on him), J Williams to help on OL or Greedy to put across from PP

 

[Finito]

I'm ok with Bosa and maybe Allen. I was trying to get hyped about Q Williams, but his last 2 games, I didn't see much. He didn't / couldn't do much against those OL's to warrant a Top pick or Top 3.

Like I've said before, a trade down with Oakland at 4 and try to get one of their late 1sts they're getting from Dallas or Chicago would be great. I'd even consider a trade to 6 or 7 so they can grab their QB in Haskins or Murray if he comes out. If we trade to 6 or 7, I'd grab N'Keal Harry (if he's projected to be taken early and fear of losing out on him), J Williams to help on OL or Greedy to put across from PP

Q Williams was a monster against Oklahoma the best offensive line in the country and he was in the backfield all night. I have no idea what you were watching

 

[Chopper0080]

Bosa would be the answer.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Neither of those guys are 3-4 DE. They are both edge rushers that you would consider to be typical 4-3 DEs.

Watt is a 3-4 DE.

 

[Snoopdog323]

along with a stud wide receiver or franchise LT if the right one is available.

Unfortunately there isn’t one at the top of the draft, otherwise this would be an easy pick even if trading down

 

[WildBB]

???

D-end in a 3-4 seems like a waste of his pass rush ability. We didn't lineup Golden or Jones at D-end in a 3-4.

Yeah, Bosa is a natural 4-3 DE. That's his best fit.

I think the Cardinals want to get a legit offer to trade out of the pick, preferably.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

This number one pick must be enticing for potential Defensive Coordinators....

That being said, Bosa is the best player in the draft and I would take him

 

[sr7706]

BOSA on one side, C. Jones on the other, Fully helathy Golden mixed in, what a freaking nightmare for O-Coordinators to block that..