Bethel new contract!

[82CardsGrad]

3 years, $15 Million. Nicely done Mike, Steve and Bruce!!

 

[Ohcrap75]

3 years, $15 Million. Nicely done Mike, Steve and Bruce!!

I just asked the question on another thread if he was a starter going forward a minute ago. Kiem replied YES!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Great signing, IMHO.

 

[Austin Zonie]

With that contract, does that spell the end of Powers?

 

[jbeecham]

Unless Powers is willing to come back cheaply, I think this extension means that he won't be resigned.

If Bethel is a starter, does he stop doing his pro-bowl special teams play?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Unless Powers is willing to come back cheaply, I think this extension means that he won't be resigned.

If Bethel is a starter, does he stop doing his pro-bowl special teams play?

PP21 has a much larger contract and that doesn't keep him from special teams play.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Unless Powers is willing to come back cheaply, I think this extension means that he won't be resigned.

If Bethel is a starter, does he stop doing his pro-bowl special teams play?

It shouldn't. Part, a big part, of his value is as a ST ace. Why take that away?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Very good news.

Good for Bethel too. I think it is a fair contract for a cornerback, and Bethel just made some good cash for where he is, and what his potential is.

 

[Mitch]

Superb signing by Steve Keim who continues to do all he can to identify and re-sign core players.

As for Jerraud Powers, his age and durability issues are one factor, but, his true value is as a nickel CB.

I believe that Rashad Johnson is also considered a core player and that Steve Keim will try to re-sign him before FA starts.

It will be very interesting to see what kind of a tender SK gives to Tony Jefferson. It wouldn't surprise me if SK doesn't sign Jefferson to an extension before FA, he gives Jefferson a 2nd round tender ($2.187M) rather than risk losing him as an RFA without getting any compensation in return (which is the case for undrafted players who are given low tenders).

Having Johnson and Jefferson in the fold allows James Bettcher to continue to play Tyrann Mathieu all over the field. And speaking of Mathieu, SK will be trying to sign him to a long-term deal asap.

 

[Mainstreet]

It's smart that the Cardinals give Bethel a new contract. He's a keeper.

 

[BillsCarnage]

PP21 has a much larger contract and that doesn't keep him from special teams play.

They don't really have anyone else to return punts. At least no one they've tried on a consistent basis. After the Ginn fiasco last year I can see why they went back to PP, but he's not the returner he was his first few years.

On punts, he's the fastest payer to the sideline.

 

[Mitch]

They don't really have anyone else to return punts. At least no one they've tried on a consistent basis. After the Ginn fiasco last year I can see why they went back to PP, but he's not the returner he was his first few years.

On punts, he's the fastest payer to the sideline.

They also had Peterson on the kickoff team last week and he made a good tackle!

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Good move by the FO

 

[82CardsGrad]

Superb signing by Steve Keim who continues to do all he can to identify and re-sign core players.

As for Jerraud Powers, his age and durability issues are one factor, but, his true value is as a nickel CB.

I believe that Rashad Johnson is also considered a core player and that Steve Keim will try to re-sign him before FA starts.

It will be very interesting to see what kind of a tender SK gives to Tony Jefferson. It wouldn't surprise me if SK doesn't sign Jefferson to an extension before FA, he gives Jefferson a 2nd round tender ($2.187M) rather than risk losing him as an RFA without getting any compensation in return (which is the case for undrafted players who are given low tenders).

Having Johnson and Jefferson in the fold allows James Bettcher to continue to play Tyrann Mathieu all over the field. And speaking of Mathieu, SK will be trying to sign him to a long-term deal asap.

Absolutely Mitch... But it should be very interesting to see how both sides try to place a value on the Badger. He's not a shut-down corner. He's not a prototypical FS. So getting comps for him will be tough! What's your guess t a likely contract for Tyrann?

 

[overseascardfan]

Need to start extension talks with Mattieu. He will stay just need to show him he is one of our core guys for the future.

 

[Buckybird]

Way to go Keim! Bethel has great potential as a CB & glad we finally get to watch him start this week.

 

[Jetstream Green]

One of the best special team players I have seen but we really don't have an idea what we have in him now right at CB... we will find out now, because he does have the athletic ability

 

[juza76]

He is paid like a starter
probably they are confident he is a legit number 2 cb

 

[Mitch]

Absolutely Mitch... But it should be very interesting to see how both sides try to place a value on the Badger. He's not a shut-down corner. He's not a prototypical FS. So getting comps for him will be tough! What's your guess t a likely contract for Tyrann?

Honey Badger, as chess pieces go, is the queen of the defense. He does it all and he does all of it very well. (FYI---I am not in agreement with others about HB being a liability in coverage---I think he's the most fundamentally sound cover man on the team and that just because he gets beat on a post pass with no safety help over the top, so would any other cover man). I am thinking Steve Keim would value him at this point in the $8M a year range---and would be very happy to sign HB to a 5 year $40M contract, something in that range---with perhaps with some added incentives. HB might want a shorter term deal, thinking the market for him could be at an all time high in 3 years. If that's the case, then a 3 year $25M deal could make sense. What do you and everyone else think?

 

[Mitch]

Win-Win!

“I’m just thankful I could stay with the team that drafted me,” Bethel said. “You want to stay with the team that brought you in. You talk with your agents, you talk with your family, you want to do what’s best for you and your career. Not everybody plays the game for a long time. I didn’t want to go and be greedy if they gave me a really good deal, which they did. I’m thankful.”

 

[Buckybird]

Honey Badger, as chess pieces go, is the queen of the defense. He does it all and he does all of it very well. (FYI---I am not in agreement with others about HB being a liability in coverage---I think he's the most fundamentally sound cover man on the team and that just because he gets beat on a post pass with no safety help over the top, so would any other cover man). I am thinking Steve Keim would value him at this point in the $8M a year range---and would be very happy to sign HB to a 5 year $40M contract, something in that range---with perhaps with some added incentives. HB might want a shorter term deal, thinking the market for him could be at an all time high in 3 years. If that's the case, then a 3 year $25M deal could make sense. What do you and everyone else think?

That's a fair contract for both sides.

I still think the Cards are going to have to make a choice between 9 1/2 fingers & Jefferson. With that said, let's say RJ leaves. How does that affect Badgers role in the D?

 

[Buckybird]

“I’m just thankful I could stay with the team that drafted me,” Bethel said. “You want to stay with the team that brought you in. You talk with your agents, you talk with your family, you want to do what’s best for you and your career. Not everybody plays the game for a long time. I didn’t want to go and be greedy if they gave me a really good deal, which they did. I’m thankful.”

How good is that to hear in this day of the "all about me era".

 

[82CardsGrad]

Honey Badger, as chess pieces go, is the queen of the defense. He does it all and he does all of it very well. (FYI---I am not in agreement with others about HB being a liability in coverage---I think he's the most fundamentally sound cover man on the team and that just because he gets beat on a post pass with no safety help over the top, so would any other cover man). I am thinking Steve Keim would value him at this point in the $8M a year range---and would be very happy to sign HB to a 5 year $40M contract, something in that range---with perhaps with some added incentives. HB might want a shorter term deal, thinking the market for him could be at an all time high in 3 years. If that's the case, then a 3 year $25M deal could make sense. What do you and everyone else think?

I also wouldn't go so far as to say he's a "liability" in coverage. But I also don't see pass coverage as a top strength of his.
He's instinctive and a playmaker. He's a solid tackler and is fearless. He can play at the line of scrimmage and be very effective. And he can drop back, use his instincts and make plays. But one on one coverage is just not his gig...
Anyway, I do think you nailed it regarding the contract... I also think Tyrann might try to time his deal to match the term of PP21. Which would essentially be a 3 year deal as PP's deal runs thru 2019 IIRC.
I think $8 mil per would be a very fair deal for both sides...

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

They don't really have anyone else to return punts. At least no one they've tried on a consistent basis. After the Ginn fiasco last year I can see why they went back to PP, but he's not the returner he was his first few years.

On punts, he's the fastest payer to the sideline.

If I was a betting man, I would say PP has been directed by the coaching staff to do the following:

1. Secure the ball

2. Pick up gimme yards if available, if not...fair catch

3. Avoid contact as a PR at all costs.

 

[82CardsGrad]

“I’m just thankful I could stay with the team that drafted me,” Bethel said. “You want to stay with the team that brought you in. You talk with your agents, you talk with your family, you want to do what’s best for you and your career. Not everybody plays the game for a long time. I didn’t want to go and be greedy if they gave me a really good deal, which they did. I’m thankful.”

He's such a great guy! So grounded. So grateful... Man - filling yourself and your life with gratitude and be so incredibly powerful and bring about such abundance of great things...