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Russ I think the double elimination is not going to happen since Chima walked. I don't think it can since it has to air for the right amount of weeks. Chima, Lydia, and Natalie are all delusional and feel like somehow its unfair now that they don't control everything like they have most of the show. Its hilarious they somehow feel entitled to be able to control everything and now they are whining like little babies that they don't. Jeff is by far my favorite and stood up to them and tells them how it is, doesn't sugar coat it and try to be thier friend. Jeff very much seems like the realest person in there and doesn't hide it, very refreshing and complete opposite of idiots like Ronnie, and Jessie! So glad to see Jessie get the boot he didn't deserve to be there and get thrown in with power from the start!
 

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Now is where we find out what kind of guy Jeff really is. To now he's played a great game and seemed to be one of the few rational people in the house.

Now that Kevin nominated him after promising not to, we'll see if Jeff truly does see it as just a game or not. So far it looks like he's pretty mad about it and may lash out but we'll see. Up until now he's been very clear, it's a game, if I lie to you it's to further myself in the game. So if he now gets mad at Kevin for doing just that, he'll be revealing himself as a hyprocrite.

The amazing thing is natalie and Jordan are in the final 5 essentially doing nothing. Jordan is being carried by Jeff, and Natalie just keeps surviving as a more hated player is voted out. If either of them gets to the end it will be interesting if they get any "credit" for being there?
 

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Kevin, Jordan, Natalie have all just coasted, and done nothing... I like Jordan (I think she DESERVES THE MONEY, but not neccessarliy to win if that makes any sense), Natalie is a local gal from ASU, so I root for her, but Kevin, outside of winning the POV this week in my mind has not done anything to warrent winning either...

A buddy of mine made a good point, this week, believe it or not, Michelle is almost GUARANTEED to stay, which is crazy... heres how:

If Jordan wins POV, she takes Jeff off, and then Jordan and Jeff almost for sure will take out Natalie

If Jeff Wins, Jordan goes up and tied at 1 vote a piece (because regardless of her rant I think Natalie will vote Jordan out first) then Kevin casts the decideing vote for Jordan (I think)..

If Michelle wins (Worst case IMO) then Jeff goes home, same thing for if Kevin or Natalie wins...

lots of interesting scernios right now, I just pray that Jordan somehow someway finds a way to win POV this week....
 
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A buddy of mine made a good point, this week, believe it or not, Michelle is almost GUARANTEED to stay, which is crazy... heres how:

If Jordan wins POV, she takes Jeff off, and then Jordan and Jeff almost for sure will take out Natalie

If Jeff Wins, Jordan goes up and tied at 1 vote a piece (because regardless of her rant I think Natalie will vote Jordan out first) then Kevin casts the decideing vote for Jordan (I think)..

If Michelle wins (Worst case IMO) then Jeff goes home, same thing for if Kevin or Natalie wins...

lots of interesting scernios right now, I just pray that Jordan somehow someway finds a way to win POV this week....

Yea I think you nailed it here. I would be really upset if Nat wins this game.
 

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Natalie winning would be worst case scenario! What would be great is if Jordon won the POV tonight and used it on Jeff and then Natalie would have to go up and Jeff and Jordon could give her the boot, then Jeff could turn to Kevin and say yep your next you little lying weasel!
 

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The POV results are already out there if people are curious. I guess it will air tonight so no biggie. You can always get those results a couple days after the thursday eviction due to the live feeds.
 

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Natalie winning would be worst case scenario! What would be great is if Jordon won the POV tonight and used it on Jeff and then Natalie would have to go up and Jeff and Jordon could give her the boot, then Jeff could turn to Kevin and say yep your next you little lying weasel!

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The POV results are already out there if people are curious. I guess it will air tonight so no biggie. You can always get those results a couple days after the thursday eviction due to the live feeds.

YEAH.. but that sucks because it makes watching the show pointless... I try to stay away from all that stuff...

like when Chima was booted, someone posted that stuff on here, and ruined that week for a lot of people....

I personally like discussing the show, just not the "upcoming" stuff know what I mean..
 

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Jeff and Jordan have to be the dumbest players ever to play Big Brother. Russell gave his word he would take them to the Final Four and Jeff believes all the lies that Natalie and Kevin tell him. Those two have been treating Jeff like crap but he saves them and gets Russell out. Even after they backstabbed him, Jeff said last night in the live feed that Michelle is the biggest liar and he can't trust her. I can't wait to see him get to the jury house and see Russell in his face saying "got, got."

Out of the remaining four left after Jeff goes home, Michelle and Kevin are the only ones who deserve the win. Natalie and Jordan have been carried by others to get to this point. When Jeff and Jordan watch all the video when the show ends, they are going to feel like big idiots.
 

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Lefty you haven't been paying attention if you think Natalie or Kevin convinced Jeff to take out Russell, he was already talking about doing that before they even started trying to talk to him about it. It was a smart move to get rid of Russell because if he would have won Jeff would STILL be on the block as Russell was going to screw him anyway. The only thing that went wrong is Jordan can't win a POV and Jeff got unlucky they picked a POV comp that had nothing to do with a physical challenge. Of course BB is going to pay for that in the long run because now the only person really worth winning is probably going to get eliminated! Natalie is a smug little bitch who thinks she has it won already can't wait to see if somehow Kevin realizes he would benefit much more if he keeps Jeff and gets rid of Jordan, then let Jeff take out Natalie and see a final 3 of Jeff, Kevin, Michelle. If Kevin doesn't make a move and its him and Natalie in the end....Natalie wins the show which imo would SUCK!! Why do they always pick some goofballs from Arizona to go on reality shows, I mean really we get badly represented by the people usually!
 

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I have to agree with Nashman... What is funny, is Natalie and Kevin THOUGHT they made this big lie up and they are masterminds, when in reality, IT WASN'T A LIE AT ALL... Russ and Michelle WERE planning on taking out Jeff when they got the chance, I think it is hilarious the self worth that Kevin and Natalie have....

I don't think there is any way on Gods green earth that Jeff stays which is unfortunante.... It would be fantastic is Jordan can win the HOH, and shut those two snakes up...
 

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Lefty you haven't been paying attention if you think Natalie or Kevin convinced Jeff to take out Russell, he was already talking about doing that before they even started trying to talk to him about it. It was a smart move to get rid of Russell because if he would have won Jeff would STILL be on the block as Russell was going to screw him anyway. The only thing that went wrong is Jordan can't win a POV and Jeff got unlucky they picked a POV comp that had nothing to do with a physical challenge. Of course BB is going to pay for that in the long run because now the only person really worth winning is probably going to get eliminated! Natalie is a smug little bitch who thinks she has it won already can't wait to see if somehow Kevin realizes he would benefit much more if he keeps Jeff and gets rid of Jordan, then let Jeff take out Natalie and see a final 3 of Jeff, Kevin, Michelle. If Kevin doesn't make a move and its him and Natalie in the end....Natalie wins the show which imo would SUCK!! Why do they always pick some goofballs from Arizona to go on reality shows, I mean really we get badly represented by the people usually!


I have Showtime free since I signed up for Direct TV and they show the live feeds every night. What you are getting on the CBS shows is not all true. They do a lot of editing. When Jessie and Russell had that fight, they did not show when Michelle left the room the two broke out in laughter and started to high five. It was all a show and they talked about how she was fooled and would tell everyone. CBS only showed the fight and did not tell you it was fake.

Russell was not going to get Jeff. He was true to his word with Jeff when they agreed to a final four. Russell wanted Natalie out bad and he kept telling Jeff she and Kevin were lying but he did not believe him. This is all on the live feeds that you don't see on CBS. He would sit outside with Michelle and say he had no plans to backstab Jeff. it's amazing Jeff was so dumb to believe Natalie and Kevin and all their lies.

I just hope on the last episode CBS will show America that Russell was not going to take down Jeff and was good with his word that him, Jeff, Jordan and Michelle would be in the final four. If you get a chance to watch the live feeds you will see what is really going on.

What amazes me is that no one has realized Natalie has lied about her age. Last night she was getting drunk on Mike's Hard Lemonade and no one ever questioned CBS giving alcohol to a minor. Also, she has said she played the World Series of Poker but you have to be 21 to play.

If you want to find out what is happening every minute, here is a website that people post on what is happening. These people must have no lives because they watch the CBS 24 hour live feeds but they do update you on everything.

http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/forums/74/t/Big-Brother.html
 
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interesting stuff... and I agree with the whole not getting Natalie's lies... I mean seriously, think about it people... haha...
 

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no lefty I do watch the live feeds on showtime and Russell and michelle clearly multiple times talked about backstabbing Jeff and getting him out. Not sure what your watching my man but Russell had no intention and even told Jeff smart move because he would have done the same thing. And although they haven't showed it on CBS most if not all the house already know Natalie is not as young as she claimed. It just comes down to if Kevin realizes Natalie will beat him so he needs to get her out which means keeping Jeff would be the smarter move although clearly he is not that smart. Jeff will probably go and again as I said earlier one of the non deserving people left will end up winning it.
 

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no lefty I do watch the live feeds on showtime and Russell and michelle clearly multiple times talked about backstabbing Jeff and getting him out. Not sure what your watching my man but Russell had no intention and even told Jeff smart move because he would have done the same thing. And although they haven't showed it on CBS most if not all the house already know Natalie is not as young as she claimed. It just comes down to if Kevin realizes Natalie will beat him so he needs to get her out which means keeping Jeff would be the smarter move although clearly he is not that smart. Jeff will probably go and again as I said earlier one of the non deserving people left will end up winning it.

I don't know what you are watching because Russell never said he was taking Jeff off before the final four. If you saw the live feed during the endurance competition when they shook and gave Jeff his word, he even mentioned how he was loyal to Casey and gave him his word. Jeff wasn't loyal to Casey as he voted him off. Natalie, Lydia and Kevin made up that entire story about Russell backstabbing Jeff before the final four. If you were watching the feeds you would know that. Russell and Michelle wanted Jeff and Jordan in the final four. After Jeff put Russell up, everything changed.

Jeff is the biggest idiot because if Russell had stayed, it would of been Russell, Jordan and Michelle vs probably Natalie for the HOH last Thursday. Russell and Michelle even talked last week how they were hoping Jeff was still going to honor his word for the final four. Russell only said he had a final two with Michelle and there is nothing wrong with that, especially since Jeff had Jordan.

As for Natalie and her age, only Kevin knows. Last night Jeff was questioning Big Brother on how they are letting an 18-year old to drink. I guess you did not see that.

I can't wait until Jeff enters the jury house and Russell, Jessie and Lydia laugh big time at him and tell him he got got.
 

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Ok Lefty whatever I know what I heard and that was Russell and Michelle sitting out back talking about how they need to backdoor Jeff, Russell said as much to JEFF he said good move I was going to do it to you. However you want to view it is up to you but Russell was going to screw him over and Jeff smartly got rid of him first. Again the only bad luck Jeff got was the stupid Veto challenge last night was geared away from a physical challenge, again BB screwed themselves because as Jeff and Jordan go away so do viewers as the other contestants suck and I as many others could care less if any of those people win it. Kevin is too stupid to realize Natalie cares NOTHING about him and their alliance see last nights money collecting as example, she is a little smug &%$ and if he is not smart she is going to screw him over. Not to mention she SUCKS at everything for someone so arrogant to be BAD at every single challenge its laughable she may make it to the end. One of the worst cast seasons in YEARS!
 

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no lefty I do watch the live feeds on showtime and Russell and michelle clearly multiple times talked about backstabbing Jeff and getting him out. Not sure what your watching my man but Russell had no intention and even told Jeff smart move because he would have done the same thing. And although they haven't showed it on CBS most if not all the house already know Natalie is not as young as she claimed. It just comes down to if Kevin realizes Natalie will beat him so he needs to get her out which means keeping Jeff would be the smarter move although clearly he is not that smart. Jeff will probably go and again as I said earlier one of the non deserving people left will end up winning it.

I have the life feeds too. They never talked about taking jeff out until final 4, and that was the deal.

Jeff had a sure shot final 4 and now is going home because he believed kevin an natalie (they discussed possibly taking russell out, but the lie was what made up their minds). Bottom line, jeff is an idiot.
 

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Ok Lefty whatever I know what I heard and that was Russell and Michelle sitting out back talking about how they need to backdoor Jeff, Russell said as much to JEFF he said good move I was going to do it to you. However you want to view it is up to you but Russell was going to screw him over and Jeff smartly got rid of him first. Again the only bad luck Jeff got was the stupid Veto challenge last night was geared away from a physical challenge, again BB screwed themselves because as Jeff and Jordan go away so do viewers as the other contestants suck and I as many others could care less if any of those people win it. Kevin is too stupid to realize Natalie cares NOTHING about him and their alliance see last nights money collecting as example, she is a little smug &%$ and if he is not smart she is going to screw him over. Not to mention she SUCKS at everything for someone so arrogant to be BAD at every single challenge its laughable she may make it to the end. One of the worst cast seasons in YEARS!

Why are you such a jeff fan? Once I got the live feeds about 3 weeks ago, it became apparent how CBS was doing everything to give the game to him. Giving him the best edit possible.

The jeff on tv and the live feeds are two different people. On the live feeds he was the biggest douche in the house, threatening to kill russel''s entire family, threatening to stab russell in the neck and saying he uses his guns when he gets a chance. Of course none of this made it on air, and you still want CBS to do more to help him?
 

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I have to agree with Nashman... What is funny, is Natalie and Kevin THOUGHT they made this big lie up and they are masterminds, when in reality, IT WASN'T A LIE AT ALL... Russ and Michelle WERE planning on taking out Jeff when they got the chance, I think it is hilarious the self worth that Kevin and Natalie have....

I don't think there is any way on Gods green earth that Jeff stays which is unfortunante.... It would be fantastic is Jordan can win the HOH, and shut those two snakes up...

Agreed. Also why was believing Kevin any worse than believing Russell would have been? Jeff made the right decision IMHO, he just needed Jordan to get HOH or one of him or her to win POV, and it didn't happen.

hats off to Jeff, other than snubbing Michelle for a hug they didn't show him doing anything but admitting I had my chance and didn't win POV, my fault.

Edit, if some of the other stuff said about Jeff today is true(I don't have the Showtime feed) I retract my comments on him being a stand up guy.
 
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Agreed. Also why was believing Kevin any worse than believing Russell would have been? Jeff made the right decision IMHO, he just needed Jordan to get HOH or one of him or her to win POV, and it didn't happen.

hats off to Jeff, other than snubbing Michelle for a hug they didn't show him doing anything but admitting I had my chance and didn't win POV, my fault.

Edit, if some of the other stuff said about Jeff today is true(I don't have the Showtime feed) I retract my comments on him being a stand up guy.

Russ, Russell and Michelle were never going to backstab Jeff. They both wanted a final four with Jeff and Jordan. Once they got to the final four, then they were going to get Jeff, which to me is fine because Jeff had Jordan in the final two.

Jeff is definitely not the guy CBS portrays. He is very arrogant and was acting like a total a$$ the last two weeks when Jordan and him had HOH. He constantly was talking behind everyones back and was saying he would kick Russell's butt and that Michelle was the biggest liar and couldn't be trusted. I can't wait until he sees how wrong he was and how Natalie got him.

If Jeff had kept Natalie and Kevin up for eviction, he would be in the final four and probably the favorite to win. He was duped and had to hope for Jordan to win HOH and then POV. We know how that went.

I think Michelle or Kevin deserve to win over Jordan and Natalie. I do agree with Nash that this cast sucks.
 
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