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[nashman]

Lefty you kind of sound like a Russell apologist. Dude got what was coming to him and Jeff is by far the most deserving to win in the house, he did not get duped as you say as they were already talking about backdooring Russell if one of them were to win the POV. and from all the showtime live feeds I have seen Jeff is pretty much the same stand up dude except he swears alot. Not sure what your issue with Jeff is but none of the people in the house are all that smart clearly, Michelle may be book smart but clearly clueless in this game. I guess the cast just sucks so bad Jeff seems like the realest person in there and has made the boldest moves only to have BB screw him with a lame POV challenge. If Natalie wins it will officially be the worst season ever of Big Brother period!

 

[Lefty]

Lefty you kind of sound like a Russell apologist. Dude got what was coming to him and Jeff is by far the most deserving to win in the house, he did not get duped as you say as they were already talking about backdooring Russell if one of them were to win the POV. and from all the showtime live feeds I have seen Jeff is pretty much the same stand up dude except he swears alot. Not sure what your issue with Jeff is but none of the people in the house are all that smart clearly, Michelle may be book smart but clearly clueless in this game. I guess the cast just sucks so bad Jeff seems like the realest person in there and has made the boldest moves only to have BB screw him with a lame POV challenge. If Natalie wins it will officially be the worst season ever of Big Brother period!

I'm assuming you didn't watch the feeds when Jeff stayed in the HOH room for two weeks and acted like he all sh*t and everyone was beneath him. I guess using the C word to describe people is all right with you. I'm not a Russell apologist, didn't even want him to win, but if Jeff would of kept Natalie and Kevin up for eviction, he would not be going home and probably be the favorite to win. If you can't see that than your crush on Jeff is blinding you. By the way, I wanted Casey to win. He was the only person worth rooting for.

 

[nashman]

I have no crush Lefty take it easy dude its a freakin TV show. I wanted Casey to win as well but the moron Jessie and his click did that. After Casey was gone its pretty easy to root for the normal guy in there thats not a total douche like everyone else, Jordan is not but lets be serious she pretty much has no chance.

 

[CardFan67]

I have no opinion on any of the people in the house to be honest (other than Natalie has lied the entire time and always tells everyone how honorable she has played)... I watch because it is what my wife likes to watch, she also watches the showtime stuff...

I can tell you that when Russell and Michelle were in the HOH room, Russell said the next one to go was Jeff if he had any input on it... That was before Natalie and Kevin's little "lie"... So why one of you guys say he did not say that is beyond me... I believe he even confirmed it with his interview after he was out where he said what Jeff did was smart because he was going to see to it that Jeff was next...

I don't even really care who wins and don't like or dislike any of them (well I would like to see Natalie go home, but I do not dislike her)...

 

[nashman]

Thats what I was saying Cardfan and lefty just must have missed that but Russell did say he was going after Jeff next not after they got into the final 4 which is what lefty kept saying. And to say Jeff was fooled by Kevin and Natalie is just silly and flat out not true he was already going after Russell. And Jeff is no where near the dumest player ever on BB as Lefty was trying to say thats just absurd considering where he is in the game and has made the biggest moves of the entire season.

 

[hsandhu]

I have no opinion on any of the people in the house to be honest (other than Natalie has lied the entire time and always tells everyone how honorable she has played)... I watch because it is what my wife likes to watch, she also watches the showtime stuff...

I can tell you that when Russell and Michelle were in the HOH room, Russell said the next one to go was Jeff if he had any input on it... That was before Natalie and Kevin's little "lie"... So why one of you guys say he did not say that is beyond me... I believe he even confirmed it with his interview after he was out where he said what Jeff did was smart because he was going to see to it that Jeff was next...

I don't even really care who wins and don't like or dislike any of them (well I would like to see Natalie go home, but I do not dislike her)...

You just made that up. He told julie chen in the post interview his plan was indeed to stick to the final 4, and yes then take jeff out. That's all I ever heard.

 

[nashman]

Do you guys just not listen? They clearly talked about taking Jeff out sooner than the final four its not even worth arguing about! Jeff did the right thing by taking out HIS biggest competitor whether you and lefty think it was right is irrelevant!

 

[hsandhu]

Thats what I was saying Cardfan and lefty just must have missed that but Russell did say he was going after Jeff next not after they got into the final 4 which is what lefty kept saying. And to say Jeff was fooled by Kevin and Natalie is just silly and flat out not true he was already going after Russell. And Jeff is no where near the dumest player ever on BB as Lefty was trying to say thats just absurd considering where he is in the game and has made the biggest moves of the entire season.

You sound like a jeff apologist. He made the biggest moves because he was given a huge advantage he didn't have to earn. If it wasn't for the coup he'd already be out.

Jessie was actually making the big moves and dominating the house until he got blindsided.

Also did you hear jeff make the:
"i'll kill you entire family comment"
and
"i'll stab this mfer in the neck, you don't know me i use my guns"

comments. Those two weeks he was in power made him the biggest jerk in the house, and it's good to see him go home.

 

[hsandhu]

Do you guys just not listen? They clearly talked about taking Jeff out sooner than the final four its not even worth arguing about! Jeff did the right thing by taking out HIS biggest competitor whether you and lefty think it was right is irrelevant!

I'm sure you can find instances where he said he'll take jeff out early, i didn't see those, but i'm assuming they were there.

However, watching the feeds it was clear russ was going to stick to the plan. How many times/hours did he speak to michelle and it was all about final 4.

Plus the proof that taking out russell was stupid is the fact he us GOING HOME TONIGHT! How can it be the right move when kevin gets him the very next week.

 

[nashman]

Oh you mean when Jeff retaliated to the idiot Russells non stop attacks....whatever if some little punk is talking smack you can only take so much before you say something back. Besides Casey who is already gone Jeff is the next realest person in there the rest or just terrible players who are all lucky they are where they are at. And Jessie the biggest moron of them all shouldn't have even been on the show he is more a loser than he was the first time he was on!! Jeff has won challeges what can the others say? I lucked my way to where I am at because they wanted others out first...haha laughable.

 

[nashman]

Kevin is only getting him because he is stupid and listening to the girl thats going to stab him in the back. Your proving my point the people that are left in there are idiots and none of them deserve to win anything! If the BB didn't make it such a lame ass POV challenge the show could still be good, as it is if Jeff goes tonight they lose viewers as well because most don't want to see any of the other losers win!

 

[hsandhu]

Oh you mean when Jeff retaliated to the idiot Russells non stop attacks....whatever if some little punk is talking smack you can only take so much before you say something back. Besides Casey who is already gone Jeff is the next realest person in there the rest or just terrible players who are all lucky they are where they are at. And Jessie the biggest moron of them all shouldn't have even been on the show he is more a loser than he was the first time he was on!! Jeff has won challeges what can the others say? I lucked my way to where I am at because they wanted others out first...haha laughable.

Relax, what is it with you and jeff, you'll defend him to the ends of the earth.

He made the "i'll kill you entire family comment" 5 days before the fight with russell, that's what set russell off after the noms. Defend that.


And because jessie is moron that takes away from the game he was playing, how?

 

[CardFan67]

I did not make anything up... I will say this though, having watched both the live Showtime stuff and the primetime aired stuff I was pretty surprised how they edit stuff together...

A live snippet from Showtime, that I thought was fairly important on Thursday the 27th, between Michelle and Jeff was not played until Tuesday night primetime, the second primetime show after the conversation occurred... In the way it was aired it did not mean what it really meant when they said it, it actually did not even pertain to the topics prior to and after they had inserted the clip...

Maybe that is why you are confused as to Russel telling Michelle he was taking out Jeff next while sitting on the bed in the HOH room...

Not having any that I really dislike or like I can tell you that I do not see BB being overly kind to Jeff like you have said, they portray him primetime as a gentle country hick, not too bright and just a dumb, happy camper... Comparing "live" to "canned" it looks as if they are going far out of their way to may him look like a hill billy simpleton jock, which he may be, but I think they are editing to show it more so than is real...

 

[nashman]

Thanks Cardfan for introducing some reality to the topic. BB edits things to make it look how they want it to look, Jeff is a normal guy not dumb as the CBS feeds seem to make people think, Natalie is a smug little bitch and is portrayed as some innocent young girl on CBS I think people would be somewhat shocked if they watched the live feeds. I was simply stating out of all the people left Jeff has CLEARLY played better than the rest of the coasters in the house, he has won comps, made moves, and doesn't run around lying and acting stupid like many others. Just saying out of all the people left he desrves it but he will get screwed like on so many of these reality shows RARELY does the best player win its always some surprise idiot that sneaks into the end, then the bitter jury votes for usually the wrong person out of spite!

 

[AsUdUdE]

Just my two cents, but I am enjoying the lively debate on the subject.... IMO, Russ clearly stated he was going to gun for Jeff, when he got the opportunity... If that was the next week when either him or Michelle won HOH, then he would have taken Jeff out then, otherwise, he "sticks" to the orginal plan as long as he doesn't have the power...

But in the end, I do find it interesting how we all watch the same stuff (for the most part) and how radically different people's views are on the game... pretty interesting stuff, I think....

 

[nashman]

Oh and to the question about Jessie, well first of all he came in with power as the HOH which was total crap and as a team now having more players. So the athletes ran the house for how long? Jessie would have been out very quickly had he not had so many people basically protecting him, he was not playing some smart game he had numbers that kept him safe, then when BB put the coup into effect it made the game a little more fair and boom out goes goofball and all Jessies ******* flipped out like this was so unfair that they didn't have the power anymore what crock when thats how the other side of the house had to live for the first month or so. In short Jessie IS an arrogant moron who lucked his way back into BB then was given unfair advantages that kept him in until the first chance that someone could get him they did! Bravo Jeff!

 

[CardFan67]

Just my two cents, but I am enjoying the lively debate on the subject....

But in the end, I do find it interesting how we all watch the same stuff (for the most part) and how radically different people's views are on the game...

Totally agreed on both points.... And had you told me years ago that I would be watching something like this on TV I would have never believed... Reality shows have beome great conversation pieces and quality time for the wife and I... (somewhat sadly enjoyable)

 

[AsUdUdE]

Oh and to the question about Jessie, well first of all he came in with power as the HOH which was total crap and as a team now having more players. So the athletes ran the house for how long? Jessie would have been out very quickly had he not had so many people basically protecting him, he was not playing some smart game he had numbers that kept him safe, then when BB put the coup into effect it made the game a little more fair and boom out goes goofball and all Jessies ******* flipped out like this was so unfair that they didn't have the power anymore what crock when thats how the other side of the house had to live for the first month or so. In short Jessie IS an arrogant moron who lucked his way back into BB then was given unfair advantages that kept him in until the first chance that someone could get him they did! Bravo Jeff!

I have never laughed soo hard than when Jessie found out he was going on the block and he took off his shirt to expose an undershirt, with a pic of him without a shirt...

then message: the man the myth, the legend, just sent me over the top...ohh man.. good stuff, his self worth is litterally off the charts... but it was good for a laugh, so he has that going for him...

 

[hsandhu]

If your argument is jeff is getting a bad edit on CBS you are insane. A bad edit, then why the hell did he get 80% of the vote for coup?

12 million people voted, maybe 1% watch the live feeds.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ, Russell and Michelle were never going to backstab Jeff. They both wanted a final four with Jeff and Jordan. Once they got to the final four, then they were going to get Jeff, which to me is fine because Jeff had Jordan in the final two.

Jeff is definitely not the guy CBS portrays. He is very arrogant and was acting like a total a$$ the last two weeks when Jordan and him had HOH. He constantly was talking behind everyones back and was saying he would kick Russell's butt and that Michelle was the biggest liar and couldn't be trusted. I can't wait until he sees how wrong he was and how Natalie got him.

If Jeff had kept Natalie and Kevin up for eviction, he would be in the final four and probably the favorite to win. He was duped and had to hope for Jordan to win HOH and then POV. We know how that went.

I think Michelle or Kevin deserve to win over Jordan and Natalie. I do agree with Nash that this cast sucks.

the bad thing is clearly CBS is doing some serious editing because they're completely changing "reality."

If you watch just the CBS show you have one version but clearly not the correct version of what's going on.

Kind of irritates me.

But you've convinced me to hope Jeff goes home tonight for his own good.

I want Jordan to win anyways just because I find her to be refreshingly naive, I'm sure she's going to get bashed for riding Jeff's coattails the whole time and rightly so, but she's got far less of an agenda than most of them. She's just there to win the game, nothing else.

 

[Lefty]

I think I am going to be sick. Only hope is the veto.

 

[hsandhu]

Oh and to the question about Jessie, well first of all he came in with power as the HOH which was total crap and as a team now having more players. So the athletes ran the house for how long? Jessie would have been out very quickly had he not had so many people basically protecting him, he was not playing some smart game he had numbers that kept him safe, then when BB put the coup into effect it made the game a little more fair and boom out goes goofball and all Jessies ******* flipped out like this was so unfair that they didn't have the power anymore what crock when thats how the other side of the house had to live for the first month or so. In short Jessie IS an arrogant moron who lucked his way back into BB then was given unfair advantages that kept him in until the first chance that someone could get him they did! Bravo Jeff!

You are such a jeff lover, you never addressed the issue of jeff threatening to kill russ's and michele's damily 5 days before he and russ argued.

Come up with another ridiculous excuse for that.

 

[AsUdUdE]

ugh....

Seeing Natalie win the HOH was sickening... I can NOT STAND that girl... Jordan needs to win the POV....

Not sure I will be interested in watching the rest of the season if Jordan is voted out this week.... and by that, I don't think I care which bad guy wins...

Damn....

 

[Lefty]

I won't reveal much but on the live feed last night Natalie threw Kevin under the bus when he was in the diary room. Michelle or Jordan need to win the POV.

 

[nashman]

You are such a jeff lover, you never addressed the issue of jeff threatening to kill russ's and michele's damily 5 days before he and russ argued.

Come up with another ridiculous excuse for that.

You're just an ...sorry your too dense to understand my point! Jeff was the most deserving before he left last night, now I hope Jordan wins just because the rest are just not deserving at all including her, but at least she is a decent person. Natalie winning would officially make me think twice about EVER watching the show again, that smug little bitch deserves nothing. How sickening to watch her basically LUCK her way into HOH then start chanting about revenge for Chima what a stupid person she is, its so sad she wears so much ASU stuff as she is a horrible person to be reprenting Arizona!