Big Brother 8

[nashman]

And if it was so wrong how come no one said anything? Because they all knew Jen started it and was wrong!

 

[Angel]

And I wouldn't be sorry either if she got burned if she destroyed my stuff. Hes garbage because she got burned? whatever! If she didn't do that the whole situation would not have happened! He was mean to Jameka and Amber you didn't see them do something stupid...why? Because they are smarter than Jen she wanted to act like a little baby and destroy someones property, just shows how much of an immature little girl she really is!

At the time he burned her editing made it appear that he thought his cigs were missing--he was still looking for them, not destroyed. Still you don't burn someone with a cigarette, it is inhumane, and as a victim of the same I feel empathy irregardless of her behavior, which I in no way condoned.

I find it sad that one person could burn another and not feel any regret whatever the circumstances, so yes in my opinion that makes him garbage, you are of course entitled to yours.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah Russ thats the thing I don't beleive her! And he didn't blow smoke right in her face until after he discovered she stole all his cigarettes. And the thing with smokers, well you can always move away from it not like he was smoking in the house. She could just move away go inside like EVERYONE else did no one else got up in his face or destroyed his cigarettes. She f'ed up and got what she deserved IMHO. Obviously America disliked her as much as everyone else, I think 6-0 vote says that don't you?

actually he blew smoke directly in her face earlier in the show just last night. He said to someone else "Jen repllant, works everytime" so it's pretty easy to believe Jen when she says he was doing it all along. That was before she trashed his cigarettes in fact in tv time it was just a few minutes before, in real time who knows the show is heavily edited of course.


I guess we'll find out the truth at the reunion show if there is one, I have to believe that will be a hot topic.

I don't dispute they disliked her, I don't think that makes her a free target for Dick though.


There's a thread on the Big Brother site right now called will Dick get beaten up off the show?

 

[Russ Smith]

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=355175

has eric's version of the burning incident and then the footage.

 

[nashman]

Russ I have it on tivo! That video is after he went into the house and discovered she took his cigarettes! Notice she is eating thats AFTER she destroyed his cigarettes. Whatever I like you and your posts I am just gonna disagree. Jen was in the wrong and got what she deserved. And if Dick wanted to hurt her he could have burned her by putting it on her and not jerking his hand away repeatedly. Shes freaking dumb and keeps going after the cigarette, so yeah maybe she got a few very slight burns. Oh wait it shows her afterward saying no he didn't get me !!! Screw Jen glad she is gone!

 

[Russ Smith]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nuxslgMoH_M

Warning, extremely graphic language definitely not work safe.

This is an argument with Dick and Jen (jen is off camera) and it discussed some of this stuff.

She apparently told BB before she was cast on the show she was allergic to cigarette smoke and she would throw cigarettes in teh pool if anybody on the show smoked near her. The producers told her that was ok. So when she trashed Dick's, she got called in the diary room, told she couldn't do it, and that they would now have to buy Dick replacement cigarettes and that's why she got mad and broke the eating rule.

This is a much better argument than the one shown on air but lots of swearing so be warned.

 

[TheCardFan]

And I wouldn't be sorry either if she got burned if she destroyed my stuff. Hes garbage because she got burned? whatever! If she didn't do that the whole situation would not have happened! He was mean to Jameka and Amber you didn't see them do something stupid...why? Because they are smarter than Jen she wanted to act like a little baby and destroy someones property, just shows how much of an immature little girl she really is!

Smoking is legal and he has every right to smoke.

He doesn't have the right to blow it toward other people who don't smoke...regardless of the reason (annoyance or health).

He is garbage because of the way he talks to another human being and a woman. He is garbage because he intentionally burnt her instead of just moving the cig away from her. He is scum.

Jameka and Amber haven't been the #1 target of Dick. If Dick talked to Jameka that way...Jameka would kick his ***...and Amber would just cry.

 

[TheCardFan]

Yeah Russ thats the thing I don't beleive her! And he didn't blow smoke right in her face until after he discovered she stole all his cigarettes. And the thing with smokers, well you can always move away from it not like he was smoking in the house. She could just move away go inside like EVERYONE else did no one else got up in his face or destroyed his cigarettes. She f'ed up and got what she deserved IMHO. Obviously America disliked her as much as everyone else, I think 6-0 vote says that don't you?

I have been watching the after hours and he has been blowing it in her face the whole time.

The issue is not Jen should be out...it's if another person should be subjected to such behavior, especially when it's a man domineering over a woman.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ I have it on tivo! That video is after he went into the house and discovered she took his cigarettes! Notice she is eating thats AFTER she destroyed his cigarettes. Whatever I like you and your posts I am just gonna disagree. Jen was in the wrong and got what she deserved. And if Dick wanted to hurt her he could have burned her by putting it on her and not jerking his hand away repeatedly. Shes freaking dumb and keeps going after the cigarette, so yeah maybe she got a few very slight burns. Oh wait it shows her afterward saying no he didn't get me !!! Screw Jen glad she is gone!

I didn't say it was before she destroyed them? I posted that so you can see the discrepancy, that Eric is claiming Jen instigated the whole thing and that she approached dick but in reality dick approached her. You said she could have walked away, I agree but he came after her first not the other way around, that video shows that.

The first time he blew smoke in her face last night was BEFORE she trashed his cigs. He said Jen repellant. If you read online she went into the diary room and told Big Brother that she wanted to go home she didn't want to be on the show anymore. They have a cooling off rule that except for medical or family emergencies anybody asking off has to wait 24 hours so they have time to change their minds. They refused to give her back her suitcase to pack so she used bags, hid her clothes, and then trashed his cigs.

he grabs her clothes and hides them, she gets called back into the diary room and told she was not allowed to destroy his stuff, she would get her clothes back but they were going to also replace Dick's cigarettes. Dick was then called in and told he couldn't destroy her clothes and he'd get replacement cigs.

She then goes and eats because she's mad at BB, and all hell breaks loose.

FYI it also turns out 2 weeks earlier he had done the same thing, blew smoke in her face, and she grabbed 3 packs of cigs and destroyed them. he then told her he'd hid the rest of them. AT that time BB did nothing to either one of them. I assumed they figured he dumped iced tea on her and blew smoke in her face she has the right to crush some cigarettes?

Edit, this proves CBS was smart to do this the way they did because I spent 15 minutes googling background info on this before I posted that. If they'd kicked
Dick off earlier I'd have never been that interested>

 

[CaptTurbo]

I dont care what the circumstances are. Im smoking agian unfortunately but if someone blew smoke into my face constantly I would tear his head off and pee on it. I would sue CBS as well for health reasons. You can walk away from smokers but you cant walk away from a puff blown directly in your face.

I would sue Dick and CBS> and I cannot stand Jen by any means.

 

[Scott MS]

What CBS did is created 12 posts on this message board about the incident between Dick and Jen. This is what reality TV is about -- drama.

 

[nashman]

Dick seems to be a much calmer person since Jen is gone! Guess she really annoyed everyone judging from the vote, and how much calmer everyone seems to be. Will be interesting to see how it all turns out

 

[TheCardFan]

Dick seems to be a much calmer person since Jen is gone! Guess she really annoyed everyone judging from the vote, and how much calmer everyone seems to be. Will be interesting to see how it all turns out

If you watched the show from the beginning...

Dick has HATED Jen since the butter challenge (they had to wipe each other off to gain the most butter)...Jen told Dick your not going to touch me.

He got offended and since then, he has had it out for her. Pure rejection.

 

[Russ Smith]

another thing on Jen, I read this article the other day about how this show is such a weird thing depending on if you just watch on tv, or follow live feeds and after hours. If you only watch on tv you have a very limited perspective on teh show, which was the case with me until recently when I started reading more online.

Jen apparently is a "friend" of Mike Boogie and many in the house knew that and held it against her that she knows someone who has been on the show twice already. That's one reason players resented her saying she doesn't need the money just was there for competition.

Some other stuff in the article I found interesting, Amber apparently swears like a sailor, and has made several anti semitic comments that prompted the producers to be very careful with her after hours and on live feeds because they're afraid she'll piss off viewers.

And Dick isn't the only one to call Jen the c word, Eric has too more than once.

She was pretty universally disliked on the show even she admits that in interviews.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292499,00.html just one of many links that mentions Amber and comments about Jewish people, apparently it's on youtube.

 

[TheCardFan]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292499,00.html just one of many links that mentions Amber and comments about Jewish people, apparently it's on youtube.

I have watched the Jewish stuff she says on youtube. The one I saw was her and Jameka laying in the hammock and Amber is telling Jameka how she can just tell when she sees a Jewish person. She doesn't like certain people and then later, finds out they are Jewish..and that must be why. (loose interpretation from memory)

Jameka said she thought Eric was Jewish and Amber said no way...he wasn't. Amber said Eric told her he was a Christian.

Also, she uses stereotypical language to describe them...she is just arrogant and ignorant...a potent combination.

 

[nashman]

I'm sure Dick has bagged plenty of chicks WAY hotter than Jen! Jen is average. Dick lives the rock n roll life in hollywood sure he does just fine. Her comment may have pissed him off but it has nothing to do with rejection, think you read into that the wrong way.

 

[TheCardFan]

I'm sure Dick has bagged plenty of chicks WAY hotter than Jen! Jen is average. Dick lives the rock n roll life in hollywood sure he does just fine. Her comment may have pissed him off but it has nothing to do with rejection, think you read into that the wrong way.

We disagree.

He was totally rejected and I doubt a 44 yr old bar manager with his attitude gets any hot chicks. Bar flys..sure.

Jen's body on a scale of 1-10 is a 25.

Her face and her personality might be lacking a bit though.

 

[nashman]

A 25 wow! Must not be any girls where your at cause I see 100 women a day way better looking than Jen in everyway! And its ok that we disagree, but I am sure Dick does just fine with the hollywood crowd he is part of!

 

[Russ Smith]

A 25 wow! Must not be any girls where your at cause I see 100 women a day way better looking than Jen in everyway! And its ok that we disagree, but I am sure Dick does just fine with the hollywood crowd he is part of!

To an extent a lot of them have some sort of Hollywood connections.

If you look at Wikipedia Dick claims to have had dinner with Cher, and he's friends with Dilana from Rock Star Supernova(CBS show of course).

Jen has been an extra on Las Vegas and is a nanny/swimsuit model.

Jessica is a dancer at Wichita State and has appeared on Maxim's website.

Carol is a dancer for Kansas University, her dad is a Senator.

Danielle is a Hooters girl!

Dick and Kail were finalists for the prior 2 seasons of BB(5 and 6, 7 was all stars).

Mike is a model, Nick played pro football in Finland of all places, and won some spring break contest for MTV. Zach has been on shows both on E and on Comedy Central.

For a show purported to be about real people stuck in a house together as always it's amazing how many of them clearly are trying to get into show business?

 

[nashman]

Yeah kind of funny and they pawn them off as like everyday people. My point was Jen is only like a 6 or 7 on a scale of 10 and Cardfan apparently thinks shes a knockout. To each his own I guess!

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah kind of funny and they pawn them off as like everyday people. My point was Jen is only like a 6 or 7 on a scale of 10 and Cardfan apparently thinks shes a knockout. To each his own I guess!

He said body, she is a swimsuit model because of the body.

I prefer Jessica myself, I honestly thought Carol was easily the hottest woman in the house at the start. Don't like Danielle at all, way too skinny.

 

[nashman]

I prefer Jessica myself, I honestly thought Carol was easily the hottest woman in the house at the start. Don't like Danielle at all, way too skinny.

Agree with this 100% Also her body is ok but not really that hot, fake boobs and thick in parts you know she just binges to lose weight, easy to do when your young but as you get older haah, wonder what her mom looks like? Jessica is the cute one in the house now I too preferred Carol (brunettes in general) but wow her voice would make me shove something in her mouth, maybe not a bad thing ha!

 

[TheCardFan]

Yeah kind of funny and they pawn them off as like everyday people. My point was Jen is only like a 6 or 7 on a scale of 10 and Cardfan apparently thinks shes a knockout. To each his own I guess!

C'mon Nash...I said BODY.

Even you can't argue with that.

 

[TheCardFan]

Agree with this 100% Also her body is ok but not really that hot, fake boobs and thick in parts you know she just binges to lose weight, easy to do when your young but as you get older haah, wonder what her mom looks like? Jessica is the cute one in the house now I too preferred Carol (brunettes in general) but wow her voice would make me shove something in her mouth, maybe not a bad thing ha!

I don't think Jess is good looking at all...and I am 100% a blonde fan.

Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me too.

Carol was ok and Danielle needs to eat a hamburger or 2 or 10.

Amber is soooo hot.

Jk Nash!

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't get why eric didn't use the POV? Seems to me he did his job getting Amber nominated and he could have easily pulled zach off to help Jess?
america still tells him who he's voting for.

Only thing I can think of is he's afraid if Dick or Danielle goes up but America votes for Amber, that Jess will finally figure out he's the one casting the mystery votes?