Blaine Gabbert?

[BigRedRage]

Logan Thomas was picked at the beginning of the 4th round.

Yeah but, should he have been? I saw that as a man crush pick taking him prior to multiple other quarterbacks that had better college careers.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Wow, 82CG, this perfectly sums up my thoughts about Blaine Gabbert. I too have been thinking that Gabbert could be the reason why BA stays another year or two. Having Gabbert learn the system for a year is exactly what BA would want. He doesn't have the time or the patience to start from scratch again with a QB, especially with a rookie.

Your term of "fresh clay" is spot-on. Sure, Gabbert has started for two of the worst teams in the NFL. It's tough on any QB when he is always playing from behind and the defense is pinning its ears back and coming full bore at him. What actually impresses me is that despite playing constantly from behind, Gabbert passed for more TDs than interceptions (38/37) -- and given the circumstances and the subpar talent he has surrounding him, that stat is encouraging. But -- the fact remains -- Gabbert has yet to play for the same OC two years in a row.

Gabbert's stats last year with SF, and we know how void of talent they were on offense at WR and in their makeshift o-line...were respectable:

63.1%
2,031 yards
10 TD
7 INT
86.2 QBR

What excites me the most about Gabbert is his escapability from the pocket. BA can run all the spreads and zero backfields he wants because Gabbert can break pressure with his own legs. The pressure that a scrambling QB puts on a defense is enormous. Defenses can't sell out and play man-to-man. They have to keep a LB in as a spy. And even then, Gabbert has the wheels to make one LB miss.

For this reason i also like Jimmy Garoppolo, who isn't a blazer, per se, but he's got excellent feet and a very good sense of how to avoid pressure. But, I have a sneaking suspicion that the Patriots are going to find a way to keep Jimmy G., made easier by that fact that Tom Brady's contract counts so little against their cap.

I also like Tyrod Taylor ---but his lack of height in BA's offense concerns me, which is one of the main reasons why, Gabbert, at 6-4, 235, is enticing.

The only way to properly assess Gabbert is to give him 2-3 years in the same system, so he can gain a command of the offense, while knowing when to rifle passes into tight windows and when to put a little touch on fades, swing passes and hook and ladders.

It's exciting to think too that with Gabbert's athleticism, that could open up the playbook to include bootlegs, waggles, QB draws and speed options. Making BA's offense a little less predictable could pay huge dividends.

To state the obvious, Gabbert's chances for becoming something/anything more than what he's already proven to be, are extremely small... The odds are heavily weighted against him. Personally, I would much prefer to have had the Cards obtain their new QBOF via the draft. But I believe the odds for that to occur are even greater than the odds facing Gabbert....unless of course, we were to finish this season with a win or two. Not likely!

So, I'll admit that I am more than slightly intrigued with Gabbert. He has shown - albeit against scrubs, to possess the skills that could blend well with BA. Would be quite a story of BA was somehow able to transform him into anything remotely close to a Qb capable of leading a team into the post season...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Yeah but, should he have been? I saw that as a man crush pick taking him prior to multiple other quarterbacks that had better college careers.

Should Gabbert have been picked as high as he was??

 

[kerouac9]

Yeah but, should he have been? I saw that as a man crush pick taking him prior to multiple other quarterbacks that had better college careers.

I dunno. He was picked where he was picked. To say that a 4th round pick was "barely drafted" just doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[TheCardFan]

Worst case scenario - Gabbert is a solid #2 QB
Best case scenario - Gabbert is a mid level tier starter (Ryan Tannehill/Andy Dalton)

Dream scenario - He turns his elite skills into production and becomes QBOF (very low percentage of that happening).

 

[Southpaw]

Logan Thomas was always inaccurate and was barely drafted, I wouldnt put them in the same boat at all.

he was hot garbage at Va Tech and I railed against the prospect of drafting and counting on him being developed. That does not make me a genius. It was that evident to anyone who watched his ACC career. Gabbert probably made a bad choice when he chose Mizzou. He was offered by

Alabama
Iowa
Nebraska
Tennessee
Missouri

among others. He was the #1 rated H S QB.

Being born in Missouri he stayed home. Gary Pinkel was not an offensive guru.

Drafted by Jags in 2011 another franchise that couldn't develop a QB under Mike Mularkey and Gus Bradley. His OC at Jags was a rookie named Jedd Fisch fresh out of U of Miami.

Then on to SF. Another train wreck team. If he isn't suffering from NFL ptsd he could be one of those success stories under an actual offensive guru.

It is easy to sit back and talk about next years QB draft class but those guys all have baggage and flaws.

 

[Southpaw]

Should Gabbert have been picked as high as he was??

Yes. Even Mayock anointed him in that draft class. Jags made good picks but wasted them with crap coaching.

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NFL Network chief draft analyst Mike Mayock rendered his verdict on QB Blaine Gabbert following Missouri's pro day Thursday.

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"Bottom line, he's the first quarterback off the board, and it wouldn't surprise me if Carolina takes him at No. 1," Mayock said on Path to the Draft.

The Panthers have been scrutinizing Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton in recent weeks and are admittedly considering a quarterback with the draft's first selection. New Carolina coach Ron Rivera did not attend Missouri's pro day, however the Panthers are scheduled to work Gabbert out privately this weekend.

Gabbert has had dinners with the Bills and Vikings this week as well.

NFL.com draft guru Gil Brandt said of Gabbert's display: "His workout was outstanding -- much better than Cam Newton's at Auburn's pro day on March 8."

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...irst-quarterback-off-the-board/1#.WZx8o7goVqA

 

[Southpaw]

With the dearth of QBs in the NFL due to old age and injury this pre season. If either Gabbert or Stanton were cut or put on the practice squad they would be snatched up. That would even make them a trading chip. I could live with Palmer/ Gabbert/ Knight.

 

[BigRedRage]

Should Gabbert have been picked as high as he was??

His college career was worth the gamble.

 

[BigRedRage]

I dunno. He was picked where he was picked. To say that a 4th round pick was "barely drafted" just doesn't make much sense to me.

I didnt see him getting drafted until round 6 or 7 if it wasnt for us. Most talk had him moving to TE, we seemed to be the only ones who thought he could be a QB.

 

[gmabel830]

The one thing that can potentially differentiate Gabbert from other bust/washout QB's was that he was constantly working with new offensive coordinators installing new systems for his entire career. I don't have high hopes he'll develop into a worthwhile starter, but no one has ever really seen what he can do in a system that he learns and masters over a couple of years.

 

[BigRedRage]

With the dearth of QBs in the NFL due to old age and injury this pre season. If either Gabbert or Stanton were cut or put on the practice squad they would be snatched up. That would even make them a trading chip. I could live with Palmer/ Gabbert/ Knight.

If we went that route, I would just do Palmer, gabbert personally.

But I think we should keep all three this year and then let Stanton walk or sign to a competition contract next year.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Gabbert is/was an anomaly; Off the chart intangibles...tests great on everything...just never really put everything together in the pros. Maybe the NFL is just too fast for him, and his anticipation throws just aren't good enough to be successful as an NFL starter...who knows, but he's had his fair share of chances to prove himself, and really never has.

 

[Southpaw]

If we went that route, I would just do Palmer, gabbert personally.

But I think we should keep all three this year and then let Stanton walk or sign to a competition contract next year.

Knight looks stashable.

 

[Southpaw]

Gabbert is/was an anomaly; Off the chart intangibles...tests great on everything...just never really put everything together in the pros. Maybe the NFL is just too fast for him, and his anticipation throws just aren't good enough to be successful as an NFL starter...who knows, but he's had his fair share of chances to prove himself, and really never has.

Maybe it is the fact that he was sacked at a record rate. That has a tendency to destroy the psyche of promising QBs. Think about Derek Carr, Tim Couch et al.

 

[BigRedRage]

Knight looks stashable.

Ive seen very little of him but it looked like a happy feet 50% passer kind of situation.

I dont watch college though so I have no data on him until he becomes relevant and worth gathering data on

 

[wa52lz]

Here is why I’m a little optimistic that he can become a serviceable starter. His first three years in the NFL not only did he have 3 different OC’s they all ran three different systems (per pro football reference- 2011 Koetter-Air Coryell, 2012 Bratkowski- Erhardt/Perkins and 2013 Fisch- West Coast). He played 3 games in 2013, 1 in 2014 and started the last 8 in 2015. Although each year 2013-2015 was under a different OC they all ran a version of the WC offense. In 2015 on a bad 49ers team he was a decent QB, save one atrocious 3 int game against CIN, completing 63% of his passes for 10TDs-7 INTs (5 coming in 2 games vs CIN and ATL) and an 86.2 QB Rating. Maybe what he needs a little time in an offense to excel. Worst case I think he’s an upgrade on Stanton.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GabbBl00/gamelog/2015/

 

[kerouac9]

Blaineghazi is my favorite offseason storyline. Blaine Gabbert truthers have no explanation for why he was not on an NFL roster in May, why he got benched for Colin Kaepernick (despite, apparently, playing well?), and why he's never started 16 games in a season.

HE JUST NEEDS ANOTHER CHANCE!

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

The question everyone is ignoring: Where is he on the Moxie Scale?

Only engineers need reply.

 

[Reign Blood]

I love Gabbert we need three qb's and finally one who holds the clip board can play!

 

[Reign Blood]

Logan Thomas was always inaccurate and was barely drafted, I wouldnt put them in the same boat at all.

Logan Thomas just petered out down the stretch..

 

[Southpaw]

I love Gabbert we need three qb's and finally one who holds the clip board can play!

Whenever I hear or read "clipboard", I can't help but think of "Clipboard Jesus" aka Charlie Whitehurst.

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[BigRedRage]

stanton is QB at practice today

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[BullheadCardFan]

Dan Bickley @danbickley

There is no battle for the backup QB job in Arizona. @BruceArians just declared the job is Drew Stanton's. End of story.

Darren Urban @Cardschatter

Bruce Arians, on @ArizonaSports, asked about the No. 2 QB spot: "Oh, the decision is made." Stanton is the guy. Gabbert improving.

 

[Reign Blood]

Whenever I hear or read "clipboard", I can't help but think of "Clipboard Jesus" aka Charlie Whitehurst.

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Me too I thought this while typing and thought..."no ain't no one going to think this"..