Blake Griffin is a bum!

[Folster]

It would be mostly about moving Knight's contract. I agree, it's hard to see how it works right now.

That's not going happen.

 

[az jam]

A starting lineup of Bledsoe, Booker, Milsap, Jackson, and Chriss with a bench of Bender, Warren, Chandler, Ulis and Alan Williams wouldn't be bad. Young players would still see plenty of time and maybe get use to winning. IMO better than tanking again.

 

[Bert]

This is one of those things where I knew it was probably a good thing for the Suns, but I really didn't want it to happen because I just dont like the guy. I mean I dont "Lebron" dislike him, but I was going to feel cheap and dirty everytime I cheered for him. lol

 

[Mainstreet]

This is one of those things where I knew it was probably a good thing for the Suns, but I really didn't want it to happen because I just dont like the guy. I mean I dont "Lebron" dislike him, but I was going to feel cheap and dirty everytime I cheered for him. lol

Sometimes it's good to feel cheap and dirty.

I guess the Suns will never find out though.

 

[Hoop Head]

He saved us from ourselves, now let's hope that Millsap signs elsewhere.

Griffin wouldn't have moved the needle much.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Good grief. Griffin would have moved the needle a lot. I am ok that we did not get him because I don't like Jonas a person but he would have advanced us toward our goal quickly without risking much.

Moving on.

 

[TheBook1]

Might end up being the best deal the Suns never made.

Oh it already is

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Geez, totally used Suns as a little leverage to get clipps to pay up

He Brock Marion'd the Suns...or Joe Montana'd them...lol

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[leclerc]

Getting an upper echelon player that would help us play .500+ basketball and compete for a playoff spot would help maybe more than taking some minutes away from Chriss, Bender, Warren and Jackson. All those guys are versatile and should still see 10-20 minutes at the minimum. Better to earn (and get, Watson!!) consistent PT on a winning team instead of not having to fight someone playing loosing ball.

 

[Hoop Head]

Good grief. Griffin would have moved the needle a lot. I am ok that we did not get him because I don't like Jonas a person but he would have advanced us toward our goal quickly without risking much.

Moving on.

Because he moved the needle so much for the Clippers, right? The addition of Chris Paul is what helped them turn things around to become a playoff team. They've failed to make it past the 2nd round with all of their talent, a large portion of that blame falls on Griffin, especially the last 2 years when they couldn't get out of the 1st round. He only played in 7 of 13 playoff games the last 2 years. He's missed 83 games over the last 3 regular seasons. Players don't get healthier with age, even with our training staff. We'd probably only have him for 60-65 games this season because his latest injury is supposed to cause him to miss the first month or two of the regular season.

Had he signed here, how well could the Suns do during the time he missed? If they played close to 500 ball, what was the point in signing him? That would be a sign that our youngsters have stepped it up a good bit but they'd then have to take a step back to incorporate Griffin into things. Would he settle on being the #2 option behind Booker, what about the 3rd option behind Bledsoe, or possibly Jackson or Warren? What is Chriss takes the next step, how do we add Blake into things? He's not a Center and neither is Chriss, they can play there for stretches but not full time. He's going to miss training camp and preseason, which hurts whichever team he signed with but would effect the Suns a lot more. Even if we play bad out the gate, is Blake enough to help us turn things around to squeak into the playoffs? I doubt it. It would take at least 2 weeks to incorporate him into the lineup when he does return and 4 of our young pieces would lose minutes, Chriss, Bender, Jackson, and Warren. Those players are losing minutes when he returns and there would be at least 2 weeks of trying to sort out of rotation.

Throw in his attitude and I wouldn't go near him. He broke his hand punching the equipment manager in the face. It wasn't a practice either, when the adrenalne is flowing and it was overreacting to physical play. It happened at dinner with a few other players and Griffin had already missed a month with a partially torn quad, he was due back in 3 days, but that caused him to miss the next 2 months. He's not well liked around the league and is viewed as a whiny punk. Beating up the Clippers equipment manager backs up that perception, Griffin is 6'10 & 250 pounds, the staff member was 6' maybe. That's not the sort of player I want mentoring our young players, especially Josh Jackson. JJ has had some problems with his attitude and temper before going pro. He needs to be kept around high quality veterans like Dudley and Chandler not wannabe tough guys like Griffin. Throw in how he cancelled meetings with every one just before midnight last night, that shows he wasn't serious about leaving. He just wanted to get the max money and max years from LA and they gave it to him. It's a great thing the Suns didn't sign him. He saved us a couple years in mediocrity.

 

[leclerc]

All that ends well or something along those lines. Looking forward to our guys getting Ws against Blakes whining face.

 

[SweetD]

Cheap Sarver! "sarcasm"

 

[AZCrazy]

It would be a mistake to try to jump start the process now that it's finally begun. We really did only begin the rebuild a year or two ago. The four or five years before that were utterly wasted, after Nash left but when Sarver wouldn't let the team tank. Kept trying to win and ended up defining mediocre. Not good enough for the playoffs, not sucky enough for the lottery, picking 14th and staying nowhere every year. Becoming a place FA's didn't want to go. They didn't blow it up nearly soon enough. Now that we have a great team of 20 year olds, we need to stay that course carefully. They're not good enough yet to win a playoff series, even with one overpriced free agent who would accomplish nothing more than wasting $150,000,000 of Sarver's money. We don't need to add experience to this roster. These players will be the experienced veterans themselves in two years more, ready to win as a seasoned group if they get the starters minutes now. Our goal now shouldn't be to win but to get these guys better ASAP.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It would be a mistake to try to jump start the process now that it's finally begun. We really did only begin the rebuild a year or two ago. The four or five years before that were utterly wasted, after Nash left but when Sarver wouldn't let the team tank. Kept trying to win and ended up defining mediocre. Not good enough for the playoffs, not sucky enough for the lottery, picking 14th and staying nowhere every year. Becoming a place FA's didn't want to go. They didn't blow it up nearly soon enough. Now that we have a great team of 20 year olds, we need to stay that course carefully. They're not good enough yet to win a playoff series, even with one overpriced free agent who would accomplish nothing more than wasting $150,000,000 of Sarver's money. We don't need to add experience to this roster. These players will be the experienced veterans themselves in two years more, ready to win as a seasoned group if they get the starters minutes now. Our goal now shouldn't be to win but to get these guys better ASAP.

Bingo.

As is, I think this is a team that could make a run at the 8 seed if everyone stays healthy.

This is the process. Let it happen! Have young guys with rookie deals and then when they get good enough to be a 40-45 win club, that's when you make your move to push you to a 55-60 win team.

 

[Carolinacacti]

If the Suns make a move this year it will be with Bled, Booker, Warner and Chandler. You think any of the picks the last two years are going to carry this team. Your Dreaming. You just have to hope they can hold the line as the second unit.

 

[Hoop Head]

Great article by Yahoo about the Clippers resigning Blake Griffin. They compare the Clippers retaining him to the recent deals that OKC made for George and Houston made for Chris Paul. It's discussed how being stuck in the middle in the NBA is a terrible place to be, it's better to swing for the fences and miss than decide to commit to mediocrity. That's something Suns fans know too well from the final Nash years. If you miss, and don't clearly have a plan to get better in the next year or two, then it's better to bottom out and rebuild than to just be content being mediocre. After losing Chris Paul, they were in prime position to reload by letting Griffin walk. The money they're paying him will hinder any plans they have for the next few years and Griffin won't be getting any better, especially with his injury history, so they're in a really tough spot. They've almost become the Donald Sterling Clipper's again.

They don't talk about the Suns but I think any Suns fan can see the author's POV. Griffin staying in LA with the Clippers for 5 years and $173 million is a huge deal that could keep them locked into being a team that barely makes the playoffs only to get squashed. There are many more attractive destinations for other free agents out there if they really want to try and compete for a title and the Clippers aren't one of those teams anymore.

https://sports.yahoo.com/re-signing-blake-griffin-clippers-took-worst-type-nba-risk-165322810.html

Both the Rockets and Thunder are taking risks but it's either that or be content being a team that can't get out of the 1st or 2nd round. OKC & Houston took big risks that may not pan out in the long term but they should be better for it this season. They'll be in position to potentially challenge GS, with some luck on their side. They weren't beating GS before and they might not now but at least they're giving it a shot. Neither is in a worse position than before they made their deals.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Great article by Yahoo about the Clippers resigning Blake Griffin. They compare the Clippers retaining him to the recent deals that OKC made for George and Houston made for Chris Paul. It's discussed how being stuck in the middle in the NBA is a terrible place to be, it's better to swing for the fences and miss than decide to commit to mediocrity. That's something Suns fans know too well from the final Nash years. If you miss, and don't clearly have a plan to get better in the next year or two, then it's better to bottom out and rebuild than to just be content being mediocre. After losing Chris Paul, they were in prime position to reload by letting Griffin walk. The money they're paying him will hinder any plans they have for the next few years and Griffin won't be getting any better, especially with his injury history, so they're in a really tough spot. They've almost become the Donald Sterling Clipper's again.

They don't talk about the Suns but I think any Suns fan can see the author's POV. Griffin staying in LA with the Clippers for 5 years and $173 million is a huge deal that could keep them locked into being a team that barely makes the playoffs only to get squashed. There are many more attractive destinations for other free agents out there if they really want to try and compete for a title and the Clippers aren't one of those teams anymore.

https://sports.yahoo.com/re-signing-blake-griffin-clippers-took-worst-type-nba-risk-165322810.html

Both the Rockets and Thunder are taking risks but it's either that or be content being a team that can't get out of the 1st or 2nd round. OKC & Houston took big risks that may not pan out in the long term but they should be better for it this season. They'll be in position to potentially challenge GS, with some luck on their side. They weren't beating GS before and they might not now but at least they're giving it a shot. Neither is in a worse position than before they made their deals.

Wait a sec... you say the article makes great points... but you were all for doing the exact same thing with Griffin and to an even worse lesser extent with Milsap.

 

[Hoop Head]

Wait a sec... you say the article makes great points... but you were all for doing the exact same thing with Griffin and to an even worse lesser extent with Milsap.

I've never liked Griffin and didn't want the Suns to sign or trade for him. Please, show me where i advocated for bringing Griffin in.

I was ok with signing Millsap because I actually liked that's a he's a little older. We're out of the Millsap sweepstakes and I'm ok with that. The chances we could have signed him for only 3 years was slim, which is what I would have preferred.


Here is the only thing I said about bringing Griffin in, which was such a longshot it was unrealistic.

The only free agent I'm interested in is Chris Paul, even then it depends on the price. Maybe if he was interested in coming here we could work out a sign and trade for Bledsoe. If we could bring in Paul then maybe explore the option of Griffin.

 

[AZCrazy]

If the Suns make a move this year it will be with Bled, Booker, Warner and Chandler. You think any of the picks the last two years are going to carry this team. Your Dreaming. You just have to hope they can hold the line as the second unit.

Of course the Suns aren't going to make a move this year. The whole idea is dumb. Teenaged Booker, Chriss, Bender, Ulis and Jackson aren't going to win anything. But 23 year old Jackson and Booker and Chriss sure as hell are.

 

[Yuma]

Hey! I thank Blake Griffin for opening us in the discussion of a place where big name NBA free agents could sign. I personally wanted to continue the youth movement, and maybe he would have derailed that to a degree. I want to see what we have so far. You can always do trades later on.

 

[ARZCardinals]

$175 million dollar richer bum