Blake Griffin

[overseascardfan]

No story here but can the whole Sterling fiasco help the Suns get Blake Griffin? Obviously Clippers players are furious over Sterling's racial comments and I'm sure many will not want to stay and play for an owner like Sterling. I know a lot has been made over PHX pursuing Kevin Love but what if Griffin demands a trade? Would PHX have a good enough package to entice LAC to part with Griffin?


Maybe picks, Dragic & Plumlee or Len?

 

[elindholm]

Griffin's a good player, but he's a punk. I wouldn't want to see him in a Suns uniform. (But some of his commercials are funny.)

 

[Superbone]

Griffin's a good player, but he's a punk. I wouldn't want to see him in a Suns uniform. (But some of his commercials are funny.)

This.

 

[95pro]

One of those guys you hate who's on the other team but love if he was on yours. He's still a douche tho.

 

[Hoop Head]

One of those guys you hate who's on the other team but love if he was on yours. He's still a douche tho.

There are lots of players like that in the league now, there always is, however I think Griffin is one of the rare exceptions to that rule and even if he were on your team you wouldn't really like him. The guy is a tool and without Chris Paul I don't think he would be much better than your average starting 4.

 

[Catlover]

There are lots of players like that in the league now, there always is, however I think Griffin is one of the rare exceptions to that rule and even if he were on your team you wouldn't really like him. The guy is a tool and without Chris Paul I don't think he would be much better than your average starting 4.

Wow. He averaged 22 and 12 his first season in the NBA (without Paul) and he's carried that team when Paul has been out with injuries. He's better than the average All Star, let alone average power forward. He may be a jerk but Clippers fans love him so I'm also not sure he's that exception you suggest.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Anyone who wouldn't want one of the best players in the game at a dire position of need is insane. The kid is an absolute beast and has been with or without Paul.

 

[Mainstreet]

Wow. He averaged 22 and 12 his first season in the NBA (without Paul) and he's carried that team when Paul has been out with injuries. He's better than the average All Star, let alone average power forward. He may be a jerk but Clippers fans love him so I'm also not sure he's that exception you suggest.

Anyone who wouldn't want one of the best players in the game at a dire position of need is insane. The kid is an absolute beast and has been with or without Paul.

I'd dislike him only until the Suns were able to sign him. Then I'd jump up and scream with joy. He would make the Suns a legitimate contender.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Griffin's a good player, but he's a punk. I wouldn't want to see him in a Suns uniform. (But some of his commercials are funny.)

Was Barkley a "punk" before the Suns signed him?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Was Barkley a "punk" before the Suns signed him?

or Ainge? And everyone who wasn't a Suns fan probably thought Amare was a punk also with him constantly doing push-ups, and 1s and all the other stuff he did after nasty plays.

difference here is that none of those guys just got the crap consistently beat out of them the way Griffin does. I watch a lot of Clipper games and that dude's targeted with super cheap fouls all the time.

 

[JS22]

Griffin's a good player, but he's a punk. I wouldn't want to see him in a Suns uniform. (But some of his commercials are funny.)

See, Griffin is one of my least-liked players in the league. But would I want him on the Suns? Absolutely.

 

[elindholm]

Was Barkley a "punk" before the Suns signed him?

I never thought so. He was one of my favorite players well before he came to Phoenix.

 

[Russ Smith]

Griffin is a terrific player. He gets hammered all the time. I do think he's a bit of a punk but I don't think he's a punk that puts other players at risk of serious injury I think he's a punk who tries to be "clever". Like the intentionally spilling his drink on Warrior fans, or the way he accidentally grabs the shorts of players coming off screens and then acts befuddled when the ref calls it.

Stuff happens. In the game yesterday they kept talkign about how after a hot start Curry went quiet. If you watched the game closely I suspect Glen Davis being a dirty player had a lot to do with that. Davis comes in and in transition he runs down the court and drops his shoulder and drills Curry in the right(shooting) shoulder. He winces but stays in. Shortly after that again running down the court Davis does the exact same thing, this time the ref warns him. Shortly after curry sat down. Now it was his regular rest time but I am also assuming those 2 shots to the shoulder from a HUGE guy had something to do with him being quiet, as in his shoulder was probably sore.

I don't see Griffin make plays like that, I see Davis do stuff like that regularly I think that he gets put into games specifically to do stuff like that.

 

[Absolute Zero]

I never thought so. He was one of my favorite players well before he came to Phoenix.

Was just wondering. As I recall, Barkley had a bad rep in some respects before he came here. He had some baggage that Griffin doesn't have as I recall.

 

[elindholm]

Was just wondering. As I recall, Barkley had a bad rep in some respects before he came here. He had some baggage that Griffin doesn't have as I recall.

Yeah, he spat on a fan, and insulted other cultures, and stuff like that. But there's controversial (or just outright rude), and then there's punk. I always felt that Barkley played hard and was more concerned about team success than about glorifying himself. (Oddly enough, I felt less confident about that after he'd been in Phoenix a few years.) Griffin just seems more interested in being thought of as a tough guy and looking out for himself. I could be wrong, of course.

 

[Superbone]

Was Barkley a "punk" before the Suns signed him?

or Ainge?

or Robert Horry?

 

[Mainstreet]

or Robert Horry?

Barkley and Ainge were positive factors for the Suns when they arrived. Horry didn't change his attitude.

 

[SirStefan32]

My problem with Griffin is that he is as soft as Frye. He may be a MUCH better player, but he is too soft. he also seems to disappear way too often. Honestly, he is Amare Stoudemire part 2 (without same injury concerns.)

He plays next to the best PG in the league (No disrespect to Dragic) and alongside a very good defensive Center, surrounded by shooters, and he may not be able to lead that team out of the first round. I like Dragic and Plumlee a lot, but if he can't win with Paul and Jordan, I don't see how he will win with Dragic and Plumlee.

 

[Cheesebeef]

if possible, the Suns might be able to take advantage of a terrible situation in Clipper land. If Sterling is merely suspended and not forced to sell the team, I can see pretty much EVERYONE wanting out dodge...and we have A LOT of pieces to make a deal for Griffin and I think we'd be stupid not to.

we've been trying to think all season of that stud PF out there that this team desperately needs, but outside of Love, there hasn't really been any disgruntled star that fit the bill. Now there's the very real possibility that there is one and the Suns should do whatever it takes to try and nab him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

My problem with Griffin is that he is as soft as Frye. He may be a MUCH better player, but he is too soft. he also seems to disappear way too often. Honestly, he is Amare Stoudemire part 2 (without same injury concerns.)

I don't know. He and Paul got out of the first round two years ago in his first crack at the playoffs before running into a very good Spurs team, the entire team blew chunks last playoff series and so far this year, after losing Game 1 at home and looking like crap, Griffin came back with averages of 33 ppg, 7 boards, 3 assists and 2 steals to take HCA back before one of the biggest distractions in recent playoff memory.

Dude's a stud and I think he's anything but soft. He takes a beating on a regular basis...cheap shots, undercuts and still attacks as hard as he always did. He's a much better passer then Amare (4 dimes per is pretty good for your PF) and he's shown willingness to work on his game evidenced by better outside shooting and a better FT percentage this year.

He plays next to the best PG in the league (No disrespect to Dragic) and alongside a very good defensive Center, surrounded by shooters, and he may not be able to lead that team out of the first round. I like Dragic and Plumlee a lot, but if he can't win with Paul and Jordan, I don't see how he will win with Dragic and Plumlee.

The issue with the Clippers IMO though is there is no third star. There's no third cog in the wheel they can really depend on game in, game out. And if they don't make it out of the playoffs this year, I think you've got to call it a wash. That team's head can't possibly be screwed on right right now.

 

[Covert Rain]

Anyone who wouldn't want one of the best players in the game at a dire position of need is insane. The kid is an absolute beast and has been with or without Paul.

This. Screw the boyscout thing. It has not netted us a Title. I don't want some guy that is going to be a perpetual thug and criminal but someone NOT being an ass hat is not a prerequisite for me. Charles Barkley is a good example.

 

[Phrazbit]

I dont understand how anyone thinks Blake is soft. The guy is one of the dirtiest players in the league, he is willing to mix it up as much as anyone. There are some legit critiques of him, he is a good enough interior defender but struggles defensively when pulled away from the paint (David Lee chews him up by moving in and out), his offense should probably have evolved more by now, but he sure is not Amare II. He is a very good rebounder, he plays at 100% all the time.

I think he is a guy that if you're against him he is easy to hate, he is getting right in everyone's face all the time, does a lot of preening, hustles all over and at some point in the game there is usually a brutal foul that he either gave or received. But thats also the kind of play you loooooooooooooove if he is on your team. Kinda like Raja Bell.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I dont understand how anyone thinks Blake is soft. The guy is one of the dirtiest players in the league, he is willing to mix it up as much as anyone. There are some legit critiques of him, he is a good enough interior defender but struggles defensively when pulled away from the paint (David Lee chews him up by moving in and out), his offense should probably have evolved more by now, but he sure is not Amare II. He is a very good rebounder, he plays at 100% all the time.

I think he is a guy that if you're against him he is easy to hate, he is getting right in everyone's face all the time, does a lot of preening, hustles all over and at some point in the game there is usually a brutal foul that he either gave or received. But thats also the kind of play you loooooooooooooove if he is on your team. Kinda like Raja Bell.

No doubt about it. He's the best PF in the league and young, it would be incredibly stupid not to go after him if he's available.

 

[slinslin]

No doubt about it. He's the best PF in the league and young, it would be incredibly stupid not to go after him if he's available.

Anthony Davis and Lamarcus Aldridge are easily better than Griffin.

Kevin Love probably as well.

 

[95pro]

Davis and love don't produce wins though.