Block in the back? You make the call...

[AZ Sports Native]

Sure looks like one to me.

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[Longcolts]

It was, but it don't matter anymore. We got jobbed and they won.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Pretty bad indeed.

It's our fault it happened though.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Correct me if wrong, but I've never heard of a "block in the back" on an interception return. Kickoff - punt, yes... interception???

 

[WildBB]

Correct me if wrong, but I've never heard of a "block in the back" on an interception return. Kickoff - punt, yes... interception???

Does it matter?! A block in the back is clipping. They don't seem to call that anymore.

Seriously, how many clipping calls can you remember from our games this year?

 

[LukesDad88]

I understand how you feel, but that was a block to the shoulder. There was a similar block made by AZ on that great kick return you guys had.

 

[WildBB]

I understand how you feel, but that was a block to the shoulder. There was a similar block made by AZ on that great kick return you guys had.

Sorry LD, but if your referring to the block Monty Biesel made to spring Breaston. It wasn't even close to the back.

But I accept this call as well. There were too many close ones in such a tight game. I wish it had been more clear cut.

 

[DKCards]

The block that AR put on #11 was worse....

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't know to me it's unbelievable he scored on that play. if you watch the play on replay you can see Anquan slow up visibly trailing the play because he thinks Harrison is going out of bounds,when he sees he's not he speeds up again.

And then for all the hustle that Fitz showed on that play, if he just tackles
Harrison instead of going for the ball first, he might not score. He actually
catches him about the 5 yard line, that's 15 feet. But Fitz was trying to
knock the ball out instead of make the tackle.

Just a great play by Harrison and one of those mistakes you just can't make if you're Kurt Warner. For all the great things he did in that game that one play completely changed the game. You have to hand it to us for staying around after that momentum killer.

 

[Jaccoob]

yeh i saw tht block in the back.....it should have been called...but its a done deal now...

 

[nashman]

obvious clipping but hey the steelers get calls they did all game long! They also didn't call holding on thier Oline too often throught the first 3 qtrs when our line mysteriously couldn't get much pressure on Ben. Its just the way it is guys teams like the Steelers, Cowboys, Patriots get way to much benifit of doubt from the reffing crews because of history. We have historically been bad so we get lots of calls against us.

 

[moklerman]

We have historically been bad so we get lots of calls against us.

Why, just because the ref's penalized the Cardinals more than any team in SB history?

 

[anks106]

Number 26 also held warner earlier on the same play, does the make tackle? Who knows? Maybe he doesn't but slows Harrison down a bit as Harrison powers through him. Is it a penalty, yes. Game changing, yes.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80e8325f&filter=cant-miss-plays&categoryId=featured

you can see it on that vid

 

[D-Dogg]

Not a doubt in my mind. In fact, every time I see that replay (over and over and over again) I get more and more angry about it. Total block in the back. I think his hands were on both numbers when he shoved him...

But oh well. All we needed to do was hold them for two and a half minutes at the end and we couldn't get it done. The D, Pendy and especially Francisco (wtf was he out there for, anyway?) couldn't hold on to the Vince Lombardi in their hands...they dropped it.

 

[anks106]

Not a doubt in my mind. In fact, every time I see that replay (over and over and over again) I get more and more angry about it. Total block in the back. I think his hands were on both numbers when he shoved him...

But oh well. All we needed to do was hold them for two and a half minutes at the end and we couldn't get it done. The D, Pendy and especially Francisco (wtf was he out there for, anyway?) couldn't hold on to the Vince Lombardi in their hands...they dropped it.

His right hand I think was on the shoulder but his left hand right between the numbers.

Still though, our top need this off season is a real D.C., and next is a real FS.

 

[PoolBoy]

you can see in the clip where fitz runs into rolle as well....damn taht play sucked

 

[anks106]

you can see in the clip where fitz runs into rolle as well....damn taht play sucked

when I first saw that, I literally could not stand for a few minutes.. that was like getting kicked in the nuts

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The saddest thing about watching that GIF is Wells cuts off Larry Fitzgerald and he runs into Rolle standing on the sidelines!!!!! That was the 1/2 second needed to bring Harrison down BEFORE the TD!!!! Gotta Give Props to Big ass Gandy almost running down the play...

That makes me:

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[PoolBoy]

i just showed all the clips of the refs, the non-holding calls, "the fumble" to my buddy who is a cardinal hater. At first he was telling me "quit bitching" and stuff like that. After i was done making my case, he sat with his jaw open for a few seconds and said...."Damn....ya'll got played".

 

[Preacher]

Funny thing.

In that same clip.... Do you all see Fitzgerald running out of bounds, and then CONTINUE to run out of bounds? That is illegal and he is therefore not eligible to come and and tackle.

and Syracuse....

I could put together a host of clips of holding calls against Harrison that were never called in this game, not to mention a number of other calls.

Fact of the matter is, our boards seemed to go silent for about 15 seconds when the holding was called, because we have been getting jobbed on holding ALL SEASON LONG.

 

[PoolBoy]

Funny thing.

In that same clip.... Do you all see Fitzgerald running out of bounds, and then CONTINUE to run out of bounds? That is illegal and he is therefore not eligible to come and and tackle.

and Syracuse....

I could put together a host of clips of holding calls against Harrison that were never called in this game, not to mention a number of other calls.

Fact of the matter is, our boards seemed to go silent for about 15 seconds when the holding was called, because we have been getting jobbed on holding ALL SEASON LONG.

LMAO. when Big Ben starts scrambling in the pocket, the refs are too busy touching themselves with excitement at how he can break the first tackle, that they ignore the holding/clipping/horsecollar tackles/blocks in the back that ensue while he is running around. it is ridiculous. they were throwing the terrible tow...i mean flags all day on us. so don't complain about Harrison. he should have been kicked out of the game for acting like a damn thug, i mean wanna be thug. yea, you're a hard ass for going after one of the smallest players on the team. Go after Wilson, and we'd be pretending James harrison was a good person while we say how unfortunate it is that he is paralyzed. He's just like Hines Ward.

 

[moklerman]

In that same clip.... Do you all see Fitzgerald running out of bounds, and then CONTINUE to run out of bounds? That is illegal and he is therefore not eligible to come and and tackle.

I'd like to see the actual rule. I know what you're saying and agree that a player has to reestablish himself if he goes out of bounds but I don't think it's accurate that once he's out of bounds he can not legally come back in and make a play.

I could put together a host of clips of holding calls against Harrison that were never called in this game, not to mention a number of other calls.

Even I, with great doubts about the quality of this game's officiating, wouldn't bother with all the holding calls that could or couldn't have been made. Dansby and Dockett probably had their fair share much like Harrison. It's just a fact of life for pass rushers in the NFL. I would be interested in the "number of other calls" though. A description would suffice. No need to put together a slide show or clips.

 

[Preacher]

I'd like to see the actual rule. I know what you're saying and agree that a player has to reestablish himself if he goes out of bounds but I don't think it's accurate that once he's out of bounds he can not legally come back in and make a play.

Let me clarify. its not that he can't reestablish, its that he can't streak down the sideline out of bounds to avoid the blockers and his own teamates, and then reestablish on the other side before he tackles.

Even I, with great doubts about the quality of this game's officiating, wouldn't bother with all the holding calls that could or couldn't have been made. Dansby and Dockett probably had their fair share much like Harrison. It's just a fact of life for pass rushers in the NFL. I would be interested in the "number of other calls" though. A description would suffice. No need to put together a slide show or clips.

Two real quick... I am at a library and it is about to close...

1. Warner pulling off his helmet to argue with the ref, should be the same 15 yard penalty given to the Steelers after the last fumble.

2. Fitz's first TD, the nose of the ball hits the ground and moves while he is still going to the ground. There is a VERY good chance it was incomplete, but was called a TD. While Tomlin should have challenged it, it does go to show that calls went both ways, and in reality the game was NOT determined by the refs.



And now. ., . I just got locked in the library!!!!!

 

[moklerman]

1. Warner pulling off his helmet to argue with the ref, should be the same 15 yard penalty given to the Steelers after the last fumble.

I've heard this one mentioned and it actually made me wonder about what the actual rule is. Anytime I've seen it called is because the player has removed his helmet to showboat. I wasn't under the impression that a player could never remove his helmet. Not arguing right or wrong, I just don't know the actual rule.

2. Fitz's first TD, the nose of the ball hits the ground and moves while he is still going to the ground. There is a VERY good chance it was incomplete, but was called a TD. While Tomlin should have challenged it, it does go to show that calls went both ways, and in reality the game was NOT determined by the refs.

I will have to look at that play yet again because I thought that it was clean. Maybe it was arguable but again, my complaints are about plays that I feel were blatant. I agree that close calls went both ways but overall I also think your examples just add to my contention that it was a poorly officiated game that leaned in the Steelers favor when all was settled.

 

[moklerman]

Okay, found this:

Removing Helmets on the Field During Play -- no player may remove his helmet while on the playing field. Doing so will result in a 15-yard Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty. Exceptions are during timeouts and between quarters. (The NFL has done this in an effort to "reduce taunting and overexuberant celebrations" and also "in the name of safety.")

This was added to the rulebook in 1997 and I didn't see anything updated since then. On that play, I don't know if an official timeout was called since they were all huddled discussing the play(with Warner in there adding his 2 cents) and in that description it states that it was instituted to cut down on taunting which I can see how what Warner did could be ambiguous. If the clock was stopped, I don't see a problem. If it wasn't stopped I could see how it could be called. If it was the latter, it's just another example of the officials missing a call and being inconsistent with how they called the game.