Rivercard
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Yeah the Louisville/WVU rivalry is really heating up. I'll still pull for WVU in football (except against UL of course).
Bob Huggins Headed to West Virginia?
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Yeah the Louisville/WVU rivalry is really heating up. I'll still pull for WVU in football (except against UL of course).
MaoTosiFanClub
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You said championships and Huggins has clearly won none that matter despite being at a tradition-rich school that looked the other way on grades in a rich recruiting base. Huggins will win games at WVU, but her certainly will not win championships before he inevitably puts the school on probation. His MO of recruiting athletic freaks who are too dumb to get their teams to the next level will continue in Morgantown.
LVCARDFREAK
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So are you really happy to have him? I looked at the WVU board on Scout.com and there's 2 threads on there from WVU fans saying in effect weren't we all ripping Beilein for bailing on us, how can we endorse Huggins for doing the same thing to K State?
FYI they speculate Beasley will follow, Patrick Patterson will likely pick WVU now instead of Florida, UK or Duke, but they say WVU has no interest in OJ Mayo and they don't think Mayo wants to play for Huggins anymore either.
Walker would have to sit a year if he transferred so he's expected to stay at K State.
The evil side of me wants to see both schools miss the NCAA's next year, get selected to the NIT, and have WVU have to play at K State!!
No I am not. He is a scumbag. I dont think this is great right now for WVU's image either. I just think it is a little misdirected coz, although not as high profile, many coaches do what others on this board claim Huggins is a scumbag for.
No matter. I cant stop rooting for WVU over this, but it leaves a bad taste nonetheless.
Rivercard
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That's probably how I'd feel as a fan too. What can you do, right?
LVCARDFREAK
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Here is hoping that WVU will step in and not let Huggins continue that tradition...That is naive however.
Keep in mind this isnt a hiring out of nowhere. KSU should have known this was coming. WVU was supposed to have hired him 5 years ago and he has stated repeatedly that it is his dream job.
All I can hope for is he can win and do it within the rules. I certainly dont want to see WVU on probabtion.
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About my take too.
I can semi relate, UCLA hired Larry Brown back and then at the last minute he changed his mind and stuck with Kansas. I didn't know what to feel, stupid that they rehired the guy who put them on probation before, mad that he stood them up, or thrilled that he stuck with Kansas and then left for the NBA the next year?
Huggins takes things to the extreme, yes many schools take iffy students or kids with some bad history but with Bob it's like he seeks those guys out.
MigratingOsprey
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huggins is the anti-christ, i've pulled for WVU basketball but now have to officially dislike them
I can't support anything huggins is involved in - he makes a mockery of intercollegiate athletics - his program in cincy was put under probation due to lack of institutional control - enjoy watching class guys like danny fortson, kenyon martin, ruben patterson, nick van exel and countless other less talented meatheads - they're really enjoyable
I can't support anything huggins is involved in - he makes a mockery of intercollegiate athletics - his program in cincy was put under probation due to lack of institutional control - enjoy watching class guys like danny fortson, kenyon martin, ruben patterson, nick van exel and countless other less talented meatheads - they're really enjoyable
LVCARDFREAK
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Yes he has (been doing some reading the last 30 minutes). Like Mao said, WVU might be on probabtion in 5 years. Thats the scary part for me. I have no problem with them hiring him as a local-boy-coming-home (went to WVU, coached as a GA there as well) and giving him a second chance to remake his image. If WVU goes on probabtion and Huggins is fired it is a likely death sentence for WVU basketball for 20 years. They cant compete now recrutiing wise and no one will want to go there if Huggins continues where he left off at Cincy.
I don't howver blame him for leaving KSU for WVU. Like I said, this is his dream job-stated many times- he went to and coached at WVU, and this was supposed to happen 5 years ago. KSU should have none once Beilein was announced at UM this was coming....
LVCARDFREAK
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I dont get that stance from either you or Rivercard. I agree he is a scumbag but why hate the entire team over one hiring? ..ehh I guess it isnt the same. You aren't a fan of WVU, just casually root for them. I can see where this hiring would make you feel that way.
But I bet you would feel different if they hired Mike Price or Art Schleister (sp) to coach the seahawks ?
MigratingOsprey
Thank You Paul!
it's always different when it's your team - I'm a hurricanes fan for football, so i've definitely been on the other side of the coin
i actually do not have as much of a problem with mike price - but do get what you are getting at
when my favorite team hires a coach, drafts a player or does something I don't care for it does hurt - I still want my team to succeed and will be supportive - but it's harder to get behind those teams
also - if a team is a rival, no matter what they do I would hate them - you could take the entire seahawks team and put them in rams jerseys and i'd hate them
as a casual fan little things can make a difference though - instead of being the upstart program with the innovative coach and a fun style of play - they will be something completely different under the cloud of bob huggins
i actually do not have as much of a problem with mike price - but do get what you are getting at
when my favorite team hires a coach, drafts a player or does something I don't care for it does hurt - I still want my team to succeed and will be supportive - but it's harder to get behind those teams
also - if a team is a rival, no matter what they do I would hate them - you could take the entire seahawks team and put them in rams jerseys and i'd hate them
as a casual fan little things can make a difference though - instead of being the upstart program with the innovative coach and a fun style of play - they will be something completely different under the cloud of bob huggins
LVCARDFREAK
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Interesting article from WV news
http://www.wvmetronews.com/index_forsub.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=18927
http://www.wvmetronews.com/index_forsub.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=18927
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mentioned this to LV in a PM. At the press conference K State said they would NOT release recruits until after they had a new coach as is their policy. So they didn't say never but not right away at least.
Huggins said at the presser he knew it was wrong to leave, but he was leaving anyways. the AD said they moved heaven and earth to try and keep him(they should have moved hell, this is Huggins afterall).
Jerry West's son is on the team now and has reportedly offered to give up his scholarship if they need it to sign another recruit, and reportedly one of their current recruits may be let out to follow Beilein to Michigan.
nobody seems to have any interest in Mayo going to WVU.
Huggins said at the presser he knew it was wrong to leave, but he was leaving anyways. the AD said they moved heaven and earth to try and keep him(they should have moved hell, this is Huggins afterall).
Jerry West's son is on the team now and has reportedly offered to give up his scholarship if they need it to sign another recruit, and reportedly one of their current recruits may be let out to follow Beilein to Michigan.
nobody seems to have any interest in Mayo going to WVU.
LVCARDFREAK
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I dont think Mayo or WVU has much interest in coming together. I am wondering if the recruit following Beilein is John Flowers, a 6-foot-7, 195-pound power forward prospect from St. Mary's Ryken in Maryland -- He was recruited by Maryland and Virgina.
It is tough who to dislike more. Knight, Huggins or Kre#%$@^ski.
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Huggins is the one coach around who makes Tim Floyd seem like a good guy.
Apparently K State is playing hardball saying if they do release the recruits they might stipulate they can't play for Huggins.
One of the recruits, Dominique Sutton, says that he and Beasley have a list of 3 schools who will take them as a package if released, Florida State, NC State, and....USC. USC has no scholarships but if Nick Young leaves they have one, and Floyd can easily run off a player(his standard MO) and they might lose Gabe Pruitt anyways.
ESPN is just crucifying Huggins, Forde said it was reprehensible for him to bail on the school that resurrected his career, but to then actively try to steal recruits and coaches is beyond belief. Sutton says if they keep assistant Dalonte Hill, he and Beasley will honor their commitment. Forde said sentiment from others in the business is K State should refuse to let the players out of LOI's even if they do get bad PR over it because people don't want to see Huggins get away with it. I assume he means other coaches said that although he didn't elaborate.
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Looks like K State is promoting assistant Frank Martin to head coach and Dalonte Hill to top assistant. They're the 2 that recruited Beasley.
Rumor is Bill Walker was so irate when Huggins informed the team he was leaving that his teammates held him back as he cursed out Huggins. And remember he had ACL surgery not all that long ago. He's said he's staying at K State.
UGLY.
Rumor is Bill Walker was so irate when Huggins informed the team he was leaving that his teammates held him back as he cursed out Huggins. And remember he had ACL surgery not all that long ago. He's said he's staying at K State.
UGLY.
Agreed. At least Huggins doesn't try to fake anything. He's a turd with no character and doesn't care what people think about him.
Rivercard
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I'd take Knight over those clowns.
My take goes like this.
Huggins is a bully who cheats when he recruits and keeps players eligible, plus he is one pompous individual.
Mike Krzyzewski is a recruitment/eligibility cheater and a big time faker with his self righteous charm.
Knight doesn't cheat, but makes up for that by being the most arrogant bully ever to grace the hardwood. Just one huge festering pompous bully.
Tough choice. Pick your poison.
Renz
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I heard somewhere, I think it was on Fox Sports Radio, that when Frank Martin was a high school coach in Miami his program was investigated and the investigators said it was the most corrupt they had ever seen. Martin won't last at K-State more than a year, IMO.
What a mess for them, but that's what you get when you sell your soul for wins.
Rivercard
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No kidding. They just got ran over by the Higgins karma train. WVU is next.
I did a bit of bio research on Frank Martin. Grad of FIU, the other school, in the FB brawl. He coached at Miami Senior High. Guaranteed he was dirty at that school.
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True he left his HS job over allegations of illegal recruiting and grade fixing.
He got an assistant job because of his connections to Florida HS basketball.
Huggins hired him to get Jason Bennett I think, the 7 foot C at K State.
For years, Miami HS BB was dominated by Shakey Rodriguez. A more despicable HS coach would be hard to find. One time he recruited / imported the entire Bahamian Olympic BB team to play at Miami High. The next year, that team won the Florida 5A BB Championship. They were all declared ineligible for the next season. There wasn't a player under the age 0f 20 on that team. Shakey worked his way up to Miami Dade CC head coach and continued his illegal recruiting of South American and Carribean players. He got the job as Head BB coach at the fledgling FIU program and Frank Martin was one of his players and later assistants. Martin learned the recruit and pay game form the South Florida master.
BTW , Shakey "resigned" from FIU after numerous in house violations.
