Boldin, someone make me feel better

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I'm trying to get pumped for free-agency and the draft but this possible Boldin holdout is in the back of my head. I want to say that we have this great WR group but the reality is that this could get ugly and I for one do not want to loose Boldin in some stupid trade because we refuse to give him his dollar worth. Yes, I think he does deserve the big bucks. People say he only had this one good year. It wasn't a good year, it was a record breaking probowl year. When Boldin finally got healthy towards the end of the year he seemed the same WR to me and who knows what he would do if he was moved back to his proper position. This team has the money to do it and they should do it. Give the Quan his quan before this becomes a nightmare and ruins the offseason. PLEASE GRAVES!!! :mad:
 

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Did you see that the Redskins are now going to release Coles because he's not happy? The latest philosophy is that with WRs, if they are not happy, release them. Much harder to find good running backs that WRs.

I think Boldin is awesome, but I think a holdout at this point is a bad decision on this part. He has only played 1 1/2 seasons.
 

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One good season does not justify breaking the bank for him. He has had two knee surguries in the last four years. I would want to see another full season out of him before extending him.

Big Ben had the greatest rookie QB ever. Is he going to hold out? NO!
 

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Big Ben had the greatest rookie QB ever. Is he going to hold out? NO!

Big Ben is also not the 3rd highest paid qb on his team :wave:
 

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Trade his a$$ to the Ravens. They are so desperate for a WR that they will overpay. I'm sick of these whiners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I think the Cards will get it done. Boldin quickly became the identity of the Cardinals, and they'd be foolish not to work something out--for that reason and because I think he could be one of the best WRs in the game for some time.
 

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People have to remember that all of this hold out rumor stuff is coming from Boldins agent who is notorious for putting this type of stuff out to the media no matter if true or not to get fan reaction and to put a negative spot light on the team in order to gain an advantage in negotiations. We have no idea if this rumor is true or not.
 

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Jetstream Green said:
I'm trying to get pumped for free-agency and the draft but this possible Boldin holdout is in the back of my head. I want to say that we have this great WR group but the reality is that this could get ugly and I for one do not want to loose Boldin in some stupid trade because we refuse to give him his dollar worth. Yes, I think he does deserve the big bucks. People say he only had this one good year. It wasn't a good year, it was a record breaking probowl year. When Boldin finally got healthy towards the end of the year he seemed the same WR to me and who knows what he would do if he was moved back to his proper position. This team has the money to do it and they should do it. Give the Quan his quan before this becomes a nightmare and ruins the offseason. PLEASE GRAVES!!! :mad:

I am all for resigning Bolden but wonder if he really wants Fitz type money. I would think that may be beyond the reach of what the Cards will offer. San Diego according to a report I read over the weekend is in bad need of a receiver. If they decide to move Rivers then Bolden may be really attractive to them. Receivers are our strong suit. I would certainly consider a Bolden for Rivers trade. Rivers is going to cost some big dollars but apprently so is Bolden.
 

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I think the Cards will get it done. Boldin quickly became the identity of the Cardinals, and they'd be foolish not to work something out--for that reason and because I think he could be one of the best WRs in the game for some time.

If we should somehow lose Boldin we are continuing a process of losing starters. Whether you like them or not a team just cannot continue to lose players the quality of Boldin, L.J., last years starting center,etc. I hope the Bodin situation is handled one way or the other with the Cards at least not losing this guy for little to nothing. This sends a bad message to potential FA's and your existing players and sure does not improve morale.
 

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People have to remember that all of this hold out rumor stuff is coming from Boldins agent who is notorious for putting this type of stuff out to the media no matter if true or not to get fan reaction and to put a negative spot light on the team in order to gain an advantage in negotiations. We have no idea if this rumor is true or not.

You are correct however the longer this thing is hanging in the air the more likely it will be a problem. It would make sense to have this settled prior to the draft as it might effect who we draft. He would be more tradeable if that is what happens before the draft.
 

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A buddy of mine in the Pitt. area says that they are trying to extend Hines Ward Contract as it ends at the end of 2005. If Ward gets a new deal soon then that should be the benchmark for Boldins contract, not Fitz contract. Not even Fitz deserves that conract but that is the nature of the draft, top 5 picks get way overpayed, and Boldin needs to realize that, if of course that is the contract he is looking for.

The problem in this debate is that we have no idea what Boldin is looking for and what the Cards are offering. There is really no side anyone can take on this until this info comes out.
 

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If I remember Q has a 6 year deal. This will be his third. I believe it was the team that brought up the fact that it would be a good idea to sign a new deal an extension or what ever you may want to call it. If we did nothing ( I think we will), Q would have to play ball for us here in AZ. I don't think it would be in his best interest to hold out. We might hear some rumblings about he may do this or that, but that will be agent speak.

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seesred said:
If I remember Q has a 6 year deal. This will be his third. I believe it was the team that brought up the fact that it would be a good idea to sign a new deal an extension or what ever you may want to call it. If we did nothing ( I think we will), Q would have to play ball for us here in AZ. I don't think it would be in his best interest to hold out. We might hear some rumblings about he may do this or that, but that will be agent speak.
I'm pretty sure Boldin signed a 4 year deal.
 

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Just Pay him!

I love Q in a Card's uni, and I believe he deserves for his deal to be re-worked and I don't believe he will hold out. I thing Q loves to be on the field and I think he will play as longs as Cards agree to keep working on deal.

Those who say trade Q are crazy in my book:doi:
 

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its going to be a long offseason
 

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seesred said:
If I remember Q has a 6 year deal. This will be his third. I believe it was the team that brought up the fact that it would be a good idea to sign a new deal an extension or what ever you may want to call it. If we did nothing ( I think we will), Q would have to play ball for us here in AZ. I don't think it would be in his best interest to hold out. We might hear some rumblings about he may do this or that, but that will be agent speak.

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Contract Details

Boldin signed a four-year deal on July 24, 2003, according to the Arizona Republic. Financial terms were not disclosed.

http://www.fanball.com/fb/playerProfile.cfm?pid=1879
 

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I think he will sign an extension with a new contract. It will happen before training camp. Denny wants him and Fitz as his big play guys.
 

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Boldin is the best WR on our roster, why would you trade him? If anyone has to go it be Johnson. Yeah! Johnson for Rivers.
 

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Are you guys insane. We will pay this guy and we better do it soon before he hates us. There is no way he should be the lowest paid WR on our roster and the more time that goes on the more bitter he will be. Look Shipp makes $2M a year so Q should certainly be somewhere north of that.

Larry Fitz. WR $305,000 $2,250,000 $2,555,000
Bryant Johnson WR $453,750 $370,000 $823,750
Karl Williams WR $665,000 $22,250 $687,250
Anquan Boldin WR $380,000 $302,500 $682,500
 
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That's my point

He is one of the best WR in the league and he has every right to be upset with his current contract. As stated, this team has to stop letting their quality players leave. The Wilson contract was a move in the right direction and I think Boldin in his short time has proved his worth more than Wilson has. Boldin is at his best going over the middle and hopefully he will be put back in the proper position but that also means he gets the crap knocked out of him more often than not... that in itself commands more money. True, a lot of this is speculating what is currently going on and who knows what the Cardinals plan to do or have offered already. Personally, I would want Boldin over a player like Coles anyday and I'm not saying Coles is a bad WR. A player like Boldin only comes around every so often and we where lucky to steal this talent in the second round. The Brushci thing kind of opened my mind up to what the players face and I too do not think he wants Fitz money but a contract that is more respectful to what he brings to a team. I hope this Boldin situation is more clear soon because it effects Free-agency and the Draft. I don't want the Cards becoming the Ravens by waiting too long and finding out there are no options. What I try to keep in the back of my head is that Green wants him on the team and Green has enough leverage to get this problem fixed if it does exist.
 

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Jetstream Green said:
What I try to keep in the back of my head is that Green wants him on the team and Green has enough leverage to get this problem fixed if it does exist.
Agreed. My only fear is that his agent does want Fitz kind of money and they discount both the injury and the fact that Fitz was the #3 pick and we can't get past the issue.
 

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Agreed. My only fear is that his agent does want Fitz kind of money and they discount both the injury and the fact that Fitz was the #3 pick and we can't get past the issue.

Until we hear what he and his agent demand, we can't tell who is being unreasonable. I predict that Boldin wants a contract that tops Fitzgerald's.
 

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