Boldin - This Years Edge

[Reddog]

It's time to sit him like we did Edge last year. Get him healthy and angry so when we need him at the end of the season he explodes in one big audition for his next team. Unlike Edge, I don't think he has the self control to be a team player down the stretch as he proved last year in the playoffs when he ran off and pouted with Rosenhaus.

I see this ending badly with him getting hurt again and realizing his reputation for injury will keep him from ever getting the next big contract and us cutting him out of respect even though we could get something for him in a trade. Too bad, he is a warrior but his character doesn't match his competitive fire.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Doesn't make sense to sit one of our best players.

 

[DeAnna]

Except Edge didn't make a big stink about it to the media and undercut the head coach's authority.

 

[Mitch]

Except Edge didn't make a big stink about it to the media and undercut the head coach's authority.

Edge got his licks in...remember down the stretch last year he was telling the media he was being held hostage.

And by the way, Reddog, while you were typing this I was typing a similar comment on another thread. These guys are egotistical malcontents who just cannot see the big picture. Good analogy, IMO, Reddog, although Q was doing this last year too, if you recall. he and Edge should go try to win a Grey Cup. Seriously.

 

[joshstmarie]

Doesn't make sense to sit one of our best players.

Did you happen to see him limping like a wounded dog last week?

 

[Perfectionist]

Like Edge, I am afraid, Boldin will not be with the Cards next year. The one big difference is that we did not have the depth at running backs last year like we have at receiving this year.

 

[Kabin]

Hope he's gone next year. He's a fragile, low self esteem individual. There's no reason the team should suffer just so he gets yardage. If he can't run as well as rcvrs on the bench then he needs to park it.

 

[Reddog]

Edge got his licks in...remember down the stretch last year he was telling the media he was being held hostage.

And by the way, Reddog, while you were typing this I was typing a similar comment on another thread. These guys are egotistical malcontents who just cannot see the big picture. Good analogy, IMO, Reddog, although Q was doing this last year too, if you recall. he and Edge should go try to win a Grey Cup. Seriously.

The most critical similarity is that they were both a year older and the team is one more year sucessful and less dependant on them. They no longer have the fan support so their complaints are like screaming in a windstorm. No one cares. All the crap Edge said in the offseason about throwing away his Cards jersey is forgotten and never really even got a reaction from the fans at the time. He finally gets a team and gets cut. Boldin must feel helpless as his leverage has dissapeared. Again, I see us releasing him not trading him out of respect and a desire to just move on with little drama or trading him for a late round pick just to insure he does not end up in the division..

 

[40yearfan]

It amazes me how quickly people can turn on someone. Boldin is still on this team and our #2 receiver. Give him the benefit of the doubt. He might be complain when he doesn 't get to play, but he has always giving everything he has when he is on the field. The man is a warrior. This could very well be his last year with the Cards. Let's just support him and enjoy him while we still have him. I remember when he was the only weapon we had on offense. Great memories, just like Larry Centers, Roy Green or Stump Mitchell. All 4 of these were at one time the heart and soul of this team.

Boldin is now in a position where he needs the fans to give something back to him. He gave his body and his all for this team. What he needs from us is respect. Respect for the job he always did for this team and the realization that though he might not be as good as he once was, he will still walk through hell to help this team win.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I am all for sitting him: to get healthy and that is it.

I'm glad he is pissed because he has PASSION.

 

[az1965]

It amazes me how quickly people can turn on someone. Boldin is still on this team and our #2 receiver. Give him the benefit of the doubt. He might be complain when he doesn 't get to play, but he has always giving everything he has when he is on the field. The man is a warrior. This could very well be his last year with the Cards. Let's just support him and enjoy him while we still have him. I remember when he was the only weapon we had on offense. Great memories, just like Larry Centers, Roy Green or Stump Mitchell. All 4 of these were at one time the heart and soul of this team.

Boldin is now in a position where he needs the fans to give something back to him. He gave his body and his all for this team. What he needs from us is respect. Respect for the job he always did for this team and the realization that though he might not be as good as he once was, he will still walk through hell to help this team win.

Sorry, respect cannot be begged... it is earned not only on the field but with your character and how you carry yourself around. He has certainly done the former but continues to drop the ball on the latter.

 

[D-Dogg]

Did you happen to see him limping like a wounded dog last week?

After he caught a huge, important pass on a rusty wheel? Yeah, I saw that.

Hope he's gone next year. He's a fragile, low self esteem individual. There's no reason the team should suffer just so he gets yardage. If he can't run as well as rcvrs on the bench then he needs to park it.

By all accounts, he could run as well and was a last MINUTE scratch based on field conditions. But this thread isn't about benching him because of his bad ankle...it's about benching him because he's supposedly a malcontent. But unlike Edge last year, Boldin is PRODUCING when he's in the game, even injured. Edge did not produce...he sucked and hurt the team against Carolina.

It amazes me how quickly people can turn on someone. Boldin is still on this team and our #2 receiver. Give him the benefit of the doubt. He might be complain when he doesn 't get to play, but he has always giving everything he has when he is on the field. The man is a warrior. This could very well be his last year with the Cards. Let's just support him and enjoy him while we still have him. I remember when he was the only weapon we had on offense. Great memories, just like Larry Centers, Roy Green or Stump Mitchell. All 4 of these were at one time the heart and soul of this team.

Boldin is now in a position where he needs the fans to give something back to him. He gave his body and his all for this team. What he needs from us is respect. Respect for the job he always did for this team and the realization that though he might not be as good as he once was, he will still walk through hell to help this team win.

Thank you 40. Right with you.

 

[slanidrac16]

I'm glad that he wanted to play. He's a warrior. I'd expect nothing less. He sacrificed his body over the years when he was all we had on a losing team.

That being said, he doesn't quite live up to expectations when it comes to off the field.

He needs to take responsibility about his own situation. Had he not asked to renegotiate a few years back , he would have experienced true free agency, yet he continues to blame the organization. He should be balsting his agent at the time.

This latest incident about being deactivated. Does he really need to go in front of cameras to state his unhappiness about how it all went down? It's those things like that get under the fans skin. It just makes it appear, true or not, that it's me first, team second.

Many times a stat will show up on the telecast that a team with so and so is 10-4 and without so and so is 2 -8. Unfortunately for Q, not the team, we are now 6-1 in games when he has not played. Doesn't do much for his negotiating power.

 

[The Commish]

I am all for sitting him: to get healthy and that is it.

I'm glad he is pissed because he has PASSION.

+1

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Did you happen to see him limping like a wounded dog last week?

Whoops.

I have no problem sitting Boldin because of an injury, and for that situation Boldin needs to do what he is told, and understand that 90 minutes before a game there are more important things to deal with then "properly telling your players who is playing and who is not."

Being told you are not playing while you are warming up for a contact sport usually puts you in a bad mood, and some ding bat sideline reporter sticking his/her nose into our business doesn't help either.

Boldin is passionate, and will get amped up. Nuff said.

As for sitting one of your best players to prove some ridiculous non-issue (of course this has nothing to do with the quote above) ?

No. Sorry not buying it.

You know me. I am not going to follow the mob mentality on these non-issues.

They only reason this petty crap gets brought up is because the media is looking for the story, and then embelleshes the story. There is nothing more the nation media wants, than to get Boldin off the Cardinals and into a major market like NYC, Chicago, Dallas, or NE.

I have NEVER, EVER heard of a player being talked about as a trade option as much as Boldin. Even when our organization says there is no chance that it will happen, the media STILL digs and scratches at the issue.

It is bull crap, and I will have no part of it. I am not trying to insult anyone, but I find it ignorant that people would want to get rid of a player that contributes so much on the field, and even with a constant magnifying glass on him, keeps relatively low profile.

Finally, as I have said a BILLION times. The team has no problem with Anquan, the organization has no problem with Anquan, and the coaches don't have a problem with Anquan. So what is the problem again ?

A few opinions from select fans, and people in the media have reservations about he guy ? Fine. That is great. But it means diddly poo towards this team, and its goal.

 

[Cards232]

Whoops.

I have no problem sitting Boldin because of an injury, and for that situation Boldin needs to do what he is told, and understand that 90 minutes before a game there are more important things to deal with then "properly telling your players who is playing and who is not."

Being told you are not playing while you are warming up for a contact sport usually puts you in a bad mood, and some ding bat sideline reporter sticking his/her nose into our business doesn't help either.

Boldin is passionate, and will get amped up. Nuff said.

As for sitting one of your best players to prove some ridiculous non-issue (of course this has nothing to do with the quote above) ?

No. Sorry not buying it.

You know me. I am not going to follow the mob mentality on these non-issues.

They only reason this petty crap gets brought up is because the media is looking for the story, and then embelleshes the story. There is nothing more the nation media wants, than to get Boldin off the Cardinals and into a major market like NYC, Chicago, Dallas, or NE.

I have NEVER, EVER heard of a player being talked about as a trade option as much as Boldin. Even when our organization says there is no chance that it will happen, the media STILL digs and scratches at the issue.

It is bull crap, and I will have no part of it. I am not trying to insult anyone, but I find it ignorant that people would want to get rid of a player that contributes so much on the field, and even with a constant magnifying glass on him, keeps relatively low profile.

Finally, as I have said a BILLION times. The team has no problem with Anquan, the organization has no problem with Anquan, and the coaches don't have a problem with Anquan. So what is the problem again ?

A few opinions from select fans, and people in the media have reservations about he guy ? Fine. That is great. But it means diddly poo towards this team, and its goal.

I usually enjoy your posts Rugby & agree much of the time, but on this one I think you're a little off. Could the reason that Boldin is spoken of in these terms have anthing to do w/ his year long DEMANDS for a trade the last couple of years? Could it have to do w/ calling his coach out, hardly good for team chemistry? Could it have to do w/ the fact we've been down this road before w/ Boldin, & therefore have a very good idea what Boldin will do & how he will act at the end of the season?

I've always liked Boldin, but he was corrupted by Rosenhaus & has become a diva. If he just kept his mouth shut, nobody's even talking about him, except in terms of wanting him back in the line-up. I for one don't want to see a repeat of Boldin's attitude performance during the playoffs last year. Some thought it was just a bad chemistry w/ Haley. Well, it turns out maybe it's w/ all authority including Whis.

Fortunately I don't think Whis would cave, but what if Boldin's constant belly aching forces bad decisions on the part of Whis. & Warner when it comes to playing time & touches?

I understand where you're coming from to a certain degree, but it's not like folks here are going after the man w/o causal effect from Boldin. As I said earlier, if he doesn't make a big STINK in the media this week, our conversations about Boldin are on a completely different level & topic. If he didn't have a recent history of diva attitude, our discussions are probably different as well. But that's not the case. He does have a history, as well as a present. The comments here are based on what Boldin has done in an adversarial way, not just a fan's personal vendetta against him w/o justification.

You think Boldin will just shut up from here on in? Well, hopefully. History would indicate otherwise however which means we'll probably have more of these threads unfortunately. With a team full of good eggs, it's unfortunate that one cracked egg seems to be spoiling.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I usually enjoy your posts Rugby & agree much of the time, but on this one I think you're a little off. Could the reason that Boldin is spoken of in these terms have anthing to do w/ his year long DEMANDS for a trade the last couple of years? Could it have to do w/ calling his coach out, hardly good for team chemistry? Could it have to do w/ the fact we've been down this road before w/ Boldin, & therefore have a very good idea what Boldin will do & how he will act at the end of the season?

I've always liked Boldin, but he was corrupted by Rosenhaus & has become a diva. If he just kept his mouth shut, nobody's even talking about him, except in terms of wanting him back in the line-up. I for one don't want to see a repeat of Boldin's attitude performance during the playoffs last year. Some thought it was just a bad chemistry w/ Haley. Well, it turns out maybe it's w/ all authority including Whis.

Fortunately I don't think Whis would cave, but what if Boldin's constant belly aching forces bad decisions on the part of Whis. & Warner when it comes to playing time & touches?

I understand where you're coming from to a certain degree, but it's not like folks here are going after the man w/o causal effect from Boldin. As I said earlier, if he doesn't make a big STINK in the media this week, our conversations about Boldin are on a completely different level & topic. If he didn't have a recent history of diva attitude, our discussions are probably different as well. But that's not the case. He does have a history, as well as a present. The comments here are based on what Boldin has done in an adversarial way, not just a fan's personal vendetta against him w/o justification.

You think Boldin will just shut up from here on in? Well, hopefully. History would indicate otherwise however which means we'll probably have more of these threads unfortunately. With a team full of good eggs, it's unfortunate that one cracked egg seems to be spoiling.

First off. I am glad you enjoy my nonsensical posting, second it will NEVER bother me if someone doesn't agree. I actually look forward to hearing different angles/opinions/slants on a subject.

Back to the subject, I guess I just don't see this "big problem" that everyone else does.

I don't see where Boldin is a distraction. Where his coaches, and team mates are effected by this attitude.

Dockett says way crazier things, and his demands are even more over the top that Boldin's demands.

Not to mention Dockett asked for a trade earlier this year, and that isn't mentioned once a week like Boldin.

Furthermore, I seem to remember Boldin switched agents, and stop talking contracts earlier this year. He has let the issue go by the way side, why can't the fans and media do the same ?

Are we just going to re-hash past faults over and over again ? Why do this just with Boldin ?

Again. On the field (where it really only matters) our team is united, and ready to play for one another. At no point, or time have I seen Boldin's attitude effect the team's play, and how they respect one another.

 

[Linderbee]

I was irritated by his "man enough" comments, but to sit him would be ridiculous, and voting for it would make me a hypocrite since I thought it was stupid to do it to Edge last year.

So he was pissed...in the end, big deal. He's still an amazing wide receiver.

 

[Cards232]

First off. I am glad you enjoy my nonsensical posting, second it will NEVER bother me if someone doesn't agree. I actually look forward to hearing different angles/opinions/slants on a subject.

Back to the subject, I guess I just don't see this "big problem" that everyone else does.

I don't see where Boldin is a distraction. Where his coaches, and team mates are effected by this attitude.

Dockett says way crazier things, and his demands are even more over the top that Boldin's demands.

Not to mention Dockett asked for a trade earlier this year, and that isn't mentioned once a week like Boldin.

Furthermore, I seem to remember Boldin switched agents, and stop talking contracts earlier this year. He has let the issue go by the way side, why can't the fans and media do the same ?

Are we just going to re-hash past faults over and over again ? Why do this just with Boldin ?

Again. On the field (where it really only matters) our team is united, and ready to play for one another. At no point, or time have I seen Boldin's attitude effect the team's play, and how they respect one another.

I see your points & respect your point of view. I guess we just see it differently. Dockett can defintely be over the top.....but he does it normally in the off-season. I don't see him throwing tantrums on the sidelines or calling his coaches out.

As far as re-hashing his past faults, I'll reiterate, his past faults would have been just that....past. His RECENT actions are the only things bringing the past into focus again. Nobody was bagging on Q until this latest diva like tantrum, & that only b/c it is a continuation of his past. Saying Whis wasn't man enough? C'mon! Not looking Whis in the eye while he's talking to him, & then sandblasting him in the media afterwards? That's D-I-V-A.

As far as how it's affecting the team? I don't know for sure, I don't think anyone does really. All I know is that they SEEM to play better as a team w/o him as the record would indicate. He was an overall negative vs. Carolina b/c he wasn't right physically IMHO. Whis new he was hobbled. Did he play him for fear of the repercusions if he didn't? Did that affect the team? I don't know for sure. We don't know what the attitude is in the lockeroom other than he wasn't named a team captain by his teamates after years of being so. There was also the comment by the "veteran" this week that he didn't understand Q's actions after a win.

During the season, the Card's rule seems to be to keep things "in-house". With one noteable exception of course. Does that have an effect? I don't know, but it is an interesting Q uestion.

 

[az1965]

Finally, as I have said a BILLION times. The team has no problem with Anquan, the organization has no problem with Anquan, and the coaches don't have a problem with Anquan. So what is the problem again ?

A few opinions from select fans, and people in the media have reservations about he guy ? Fine. That is great. But it means diddly poo towards this team, and its goal.

Just because the team and coaches are smart and intelligent, unlike Anquan, about not speaking in public and media about this issue, does not necessarily mean they are OK with it and don't have a problem this festering, negative behavior.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Just because the team and coaches are smart and intelligent, unlike Anquan, about not speaking in public and media about this issue, does not necessarily mean they are OK with it and don't have a problem this festering, negative behavior.

Yet, there is no events, or evidence that his "negative behavior" is effecting the team, or organization.

Give me some proof of how he is negatively effecting the team, and maybe I will understand what the problem is.

This kind of talk has been around for almost 3 years, and I have yet to see it negatively effect the team in the slightest.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

More proof of the story that the fans and media are creating their own story:

Boldin trade subplot in Arizona
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/127563-boldin-trade-subplot-in-arizona?eref=fromSI


No quotes, no proof, and this was even written AFTER Whiz called the situation a non-issue.

Who says this is a setup for trade ? When did this information "leak out" ?

Again, three years of speculation, all counter acted by the Cardinals saying that they want to keep Boldin on the roster.

 

[az1965]

so, in your view, what Boldin is doing in public is acceptable behavior with no implications whatsoever???

 

[az1965]

And the example is that some of the veterans have now started to voice their concerns... read in some of the post game articles. This behavior would create a negative environment anywhere and to say it does not affect anyone is just too naive.