Bradford Now QB3

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This is such a clown move by the organization. This is the guy who was going to make us competitive. This is the guy who was going to mentor our QB of the future. Now, we are going to make him inactive, cost him 4 mil, and expect him to advocate for the organization to our young QB. If your employer took away 20% of your wages, would you be a positive mentor for your successor in the organization?

If they paid me $15M for less than three games and I get avoid injury? Yup.

 

[oaken1]

If they paid me $15M for less than three games and I get avoid injury? Yup.

hell...sign me up too!!

 

[Chopper0080]

If they paid me $15M for less than three games and I get avoid injury? Yup.

These guys don't think that way. Bradford goes to work believing he is a legit NFL starting QB. This is a slap in the face. (which the Cards wouldn't do because it may land Bradford on the IR)

 

[gimpy]

 

[Goldfield]

This is such a clown move by the organization. This is the guy who was going to make us competitive. This is the guy who was going to mentor our QB of the future. Now, we are going to make him inactive, cost him 4 mil, and expect him to advocate for the organization to our young QB. If your employer took away 20% of your wages, would you be a positive mentor for your successor in the organization?

This is wrong. They are not costing Bradford anything because he didn’t earn any of it. He has stunk out loud. It doesn’t matter about mentoring because he will be released soon.

 

[Snakester]

The good thing is Rosen looks good and Bradford won't be here next year to cost us 20 million. The future looks bright for this team and we should get a top ten pick in next years draft as well. I'm going to enjoy watching Rosen and Mason Cole all year get better and better. With all the money and top draft picks we will have next year its going to be exciting to be a Cardinal fan again.

 

[Dback Jon]

This is such a clown move by the organization. This is the guy who was going to make us competitive. This is the guy who was going to mentor our QB of the future. Now, we are going to make him inactive, cost him 4 mil, and expect him to advocate for the organization to our young QB. If your employer took away 20% of your wages, would you be a positive mentor for your successor in the organization?

Dude, he's still making $15 Million. If he pouts, that shows his lack of character

 

[Dback Jon]

#bitespoliticaltonguetillitbleeds

Makes two of us

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow 4m4 minutes ago
Wilks says he anticipates Mike Glennon being backup going forward

 

[moklerman]

While it is practical for the Cardinals to make this move it does raise questions about perception. Demoting the starting QB all the way to inactive suggests...something. Do the players agree that Bradford was so bad that he should basically be blamed and made an example of? Is it the coaches suggesting that he was to blame and not them? What do the veterans think about another veteran getting loopholed out of his bonus?

While a bonus is just an incentive this was for all intents and purposes a health related bonus. A motivator for Bradford to find a way to stay on the field. To take it away from him won't be universally accepted. And, while the Cardinals may or may not have gotten much for Bradford in a trade, demoting him to inactive removes ANY value in a trade IMO. It would have been understandable to put the rookie in for a spark and to relegate Bradford to the backup role. It was inevitable. To deactivate him and take money out of his pocket is something else.

 

[Rams1Fan]

20 million for third string. is this a record?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

While it is practical for the Cardinals to make this move it does raise questions about perception. Demoting the starting QB all the way to inactive suggests...something. Do the players agree that Bradford was so bad that he should basically be blamed and made an example of? Is it the coaches suggesting that he was to blame and not them? What do the veterans think about another veteran getting loopholed out of his bonus?

While a bonus is just an incentive this was for all intents and purposes a health related bonus. A motivator for Bradford to find a way to stay on the field. To take it away from him won't be universally accepted. And, while the Cardinals may or may not have gotten much for Bradford in a trade, demoting him to inactive removes ANY value in a trade IMO. It would have been understandable to put the rookie in for a spark and to relegate Bradford to the backup role. It was inevitable. To deactivate him and take money out of his pocket is something else.

Other players at other positions not deemed valuable on gameday are deactivated why should Bradford be exempt? He’s proven to be worthless this season during a game.

 

[jf-08]

While it is practical for the Cardinals to make this move it does raise questions about perception. Demoting the starting QB all the way to inactive suggests...something. Do the players agree that Bradford was so bad that he should basically be blamed and made an example of? Is it the coaches suggesting that he was to blame and not them? What do the veterans think about another veteran getting loopholed out of his bonus?

While a bonus is just an incentive this was for all intents and purposes a health related bonus. A motivator for Bradford to find a way to stay on the field. To take it away from him won't be universally accepted. And, while the Cardinals may or may not have gotten much for Bradford in a trade, demoting him to inactive removes ANY value in a trade IMO. It would have been understandable to put the rookie in for a spark and to relegate Bradford to the backup role. It was inevitable. To deactivate him and take money out of his pocket is something else.

It certainly sounds like a good business decision, but a bad personal personnel decision. Will this impact other vets in the future who may point to this as a thorn in any negotiations that include escalators and or bonuses?

 

[Cheesebeef]

McCoy is destroying this team from the inside out.

lol... with the same playbook... a dumbed down playbook even... a rookie came out and lit up the field. Meanwhile, after getting first team reps all off-season and in camp Bradford looked like complete crap, going check-down Sam as he has his entire career.

Wake up. Bradford was a mediocre at best QB when healthy and has always been so or worse, doing just enough in blowouts and games that don't mean jack squat to put up numbers that look mediocre on their face until you actually watch him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He just got paid $15 million dollars to suck for 3 football games. He (& McCoy) brought this on himself with his play.

Keim made decisions on both of those guys.

 

[cardncubfan]

lol... with the same playbook... a dumbed down playbook even... a rookie came out and lit up the field. Meanwhile, after getting first team reps all off-season and in camp Bradford looked like complete crap, going check-down Sam as he has his entire career.

Wake up. Bradford was a mediocre at best QB when healthy and has always been so or worse, doing just enough in blowouts and games that don't mean jack squat to put up numbers that look mediocre on their face until you actually watch him.

Lol, so you are okay with the play calling? That's fine. I think it sucks.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lol, so you are okay with the play calling? That's fine. I think it sucks.

You mean the last three plays... that Wilks said he PERSONALLY called for? Yes, those sucked, but apparently had nothing to do with McCoy.

McCoy's play calling the rest of the game was actually pretty damn good, a complete package of screens, underneath, crossing, deep and seam routes. And the fact that a ROOKIE was finding nails everywhere across the field is a MASSIVE indictment on Bradford who NEVER did anything CLOSE with the EXACT same personnel and playbook.

Do you really think McCoy's play-calling sucked yesterday? How do you explain the complete 180 the offense did with a new QB... even with a dumbed down playbook? How did you not watch yesterday's game and think for even a MOMENT that Bradford was leaving yards and points on the field?

It's okay to just admit you were wrong about Bradford being good. Seriously... you're head won't spontaneously combust to just admit you were wrong. Go check my old Josh McCown Is The Answer for proof of that.

 

[moklerman]

lol... with the same playbook... a dumbed down playbook even... a rookie came out and lit up the field. Meanwhile, after getting first team reps all off-season and in camp Bradford looked like complete crap, going check-down Sam as he has his entire career.

Wake up. Bradford was a mediocre at best QB when healthy and has always been so or worse, doing just enough in blowouts and games that don't mean jack squat to put up numbers that look mediocre on their face until you actually watch him.

I think that's a tad unfair. Bradford had his struggles but they weren't in a vacuum. The whole offense was struggling and learning the new system and the playcalling was rightly adjusted in game 4 to feature DJ(finally). And, Bradford showed some signs of improvement as well in that last game. The two TD's weren't crap and even late in the game he made some nice throws downfield to help the offense move the ball. He had some mistakes too, I'm not saying he was great but he wasn't a baket case just struggling all on his own.

Even this last game the rest of the offense was struggling to support the QB. It that is to be taken into consideration with Rosen I think it's only fair to consider with Bradford too. Rosen is more aggressive with the ball but I'm waiting to see if that's ultimately a strength or weakness for him.

 

[moklerman]

Bradford who NEVER did anything CLOSE with the EXACT same personnel and playbook.

"Exact"? Seemed like they finally started to feature DJ which they didn't do at all in the first 3 games. That alone is a pretty big difference. Bradford, like the rest of the offense, was actually improving. 68% completion and 8.3 ypa vs. Chicago was at least acceptable. The turnovers weren't but he was accurate and pushing the ball down the field without much from DJ. It's plausible to assume that Bradford would have had a decent game had he remained the starter especially if they shifted toward featuring DJ like they should.

 

[cardncubfan]

You mean the last three plays... that Wilks said he PERSONALLY called for? Yes, those sucked, but apparently had nothing to do with McCoy.

McCoy's play calling the rest of the game was actually pretty damn good, a complete package of screens, underneath, crossing, deep and seam routes. And the fact that a ROOKIE was finding nails everywhere across the field is a MASSIVE indictment on Bradford who NEVER did anything CLOSE with the EXACT same personnel and playbook.

Do you really think McCoy's play-calling sucked yesterday? How do you explain the complete 180 the offense did with a new QB... even with a dumbed down playbook? How did you not watch yesterday's game and think for even a MOMENT that Bradford was leaving yards and points on the field?

It's okay to just admit you were wrong about Bradford being good. Seriously... you're head won't spontaneously combust to just admit you were wrong. Go check my old Josh McCown Is The Answer for proof of that.

As usual you overreact & are over dramatic.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

As usual you overreact & are over dramatic.

You guys are arguing FOR Bradford? Lol. Wow. Just wow.

 

[cardncubfan]

You guys are arguing FOR Bradford? Lol. Wow. Just wow.

I'm not arguing for anything. Cheese may be. All I am saying is McCoy sucks & cheese goes off as usual assuming things.

 

[Cheesebeef]

As usual you overreact & are over dramatic.

as usual, you refuse to answer any of my football questions and instead turn the conversation personal.

kudos.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm not arguing for anything. Cheese may be. All I am saying is McCoy sucks & cheese goes off as usual assuming things.

says the guy who's initial response to me was "

"Lol, so you are okay with the play calling? That's fine."

That's LITERALLY you assuming I'm okay with the play-calling. Then when I responded in detail about the calls and game, I didn't assume ANYTHING about you. I asked you questions... which you refused to answer, instead going off about me being overly dramatic and over reacting.

Pot meet Kettle... you're black.

So, I'll ask again... maybe this time you'll answer: Did McCoy's play calling suck all game long last week? Did he make the last three terrible calls of the game?

 

[Ronin]

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