Bradley Beal 'Preciation Thread

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I'm counting on trading Beal as an expiring contract for the 2026/27 season. Please tell me it's possible.
Only if he signs off on it. I suppose if he sees the writing on the wall and the Suns tell him they're not going to re-sign him, he'd approve a trade to a destination he approves of. But if not, he'll just wait until the 2027 offseason.
 

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I think there's a real chance he's moved this offseason. We'll see what happens. Ideally the FO finds a new home for KD and then Beal is a bit more receptive to a trade somewhere.

I don't mind him in the super 6th man role but at his salary that's a losing plan long term.

I hope you are right. I don't see a team that would want Beal this offseason for his salary and the limited number of games he plays.

Also, the Suns would likely have to give up a boatload of assets to trade him if they found a team willing to do so.
 

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Only if he signs off on it. I suppose if he sees the writing on the wall and the Suns tell him they're not going to re-sign him, he'd approve a trade to a destination he approves of. But if not, he'll just wait until the 2027 offseason.

I'm more worried about a trade partner than the NTC.

If Beal gets to his final season under contract, he will be probably looking for his next contract and a team willing to pay him.
 

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Not sure how you’re counting on this with Beal having a no trade clause.

I'm hoping Beal will be looking towards his next contract and there will be a team interested.
 

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All true, the real problem with him has been availability.
Actually, putting us over the second apron. He's been a more than decent player. Just not being able to get decent players around Booker and Durant has been the problem.
 

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If the Suns can't find a trade partner that Beal is willing to waive his NTC for, I think they should seriously consider waiving him and stretching his contract. If I understand the rule correctly, the 110M owed for the next 2 years (53M&57M) would equal a 22M cap hit for the next 5 instead, while the cap should be increasing a healthy amount. I'm sure there's luxury tax and apron considerations that I'm not appreciating, but if they're serious about retooling and trading KD, might as well shed this dead weight from the team.
 

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Beal is just so worthless the vast majority of time. He'll play hard in spurts and look good, then just give garbage effort the rest of the time. Talks a good game but is a completely albatross.
 
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Is this the worst contract ever?

Not even close. There have been worse. Ben Simmons comes to mind, paid max money and rarely played even after forcing his way out of Philadelphia. He's played in 97 games over the last 4 years, averaging 25 minutes a game, scoring 6.4 ppg, 6.2 apg, and 6.0 rebounds while being scared to shoot outside of the paint.
 

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Not even close. There have been worse. Ben Simmons comes to mind, paid max money and rarely played even after forcing his way out of Philadelphia. He's played in 97 games over the last 4 years, averaging 25 minutes a game, scoring 6.4 ppg, 6.2 apg, and 6.0 rebounds while being scared to shoot outside of the paint.
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Yet he was traded for Harden because he didn’t have a NTC. Beal is immovable (they tried). It’s the worst contract in NBA history soon to be surpassed by Joel Embiid.
 
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Yet he was traded for Harden because he didn’t have a NTC. Beal is immovable (they tried). It’s the worst contract in NBA history soon to be surpassed by Joel Embiid.

Harden who had next to no value, did nothing in Philadelphia except demand a max extension before demanding a trade.yet again.
 

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Although we know what Ayton isn't, investing in him (giving him more opportunity to be a focal point) would have been better than investing into Beal.
 

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Although we know what Ayton isn't, investing in him (giving him more opportunity to be a focal point) would have been better than investing into Beal.
As it turns out, not giving Vogel a chance to work with him was a huge mistake. Settling for Nurkic and Allen in return for Ayton was also a pretty big mistake. But including Toumani in the deal might have been the worst part of the decision to trade DA. And then there's the decision to trade for Beal which likely never happens if we hadn't moved Ayton.
 

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As it turns out, not giving Vogel a chance to work with him was a huge mistake. Settling for Nurkic and Allen in return for Ayton was also a pretty big mistake. But including Toumani in the deal might have been the worst part of the decision to trade DA. And then there's the decision to trade for Beal which likely never happens if we hadn't moved Ayton.
Ayton has been just as inconsistent and a headcase in Portland. They want to ship him out and don't want him back. There is talk of moving him to Charlotte. Ayton's team is still insisting he is a max player but Portland doesn't think so. The Suns didn't think so. Keeping Ayton would have meant massively overpaying for the talent you get back which is what we are trying to get away from. No coach is changing who he is. In terms of the trade? That was a mess.
 
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As it turns out, not giving Vogel a chance to work with him was a huge mistake. Settling for Nurkic and Allen in return for Ayton was also a pretty big mistake. But including Toumani in the deal might have been the worst part of the decision to trade DA. And then there's the decision to trade for Beal which likely never happens if we hadn't moved Ayton.

Ayton asked for a trade. Whether he was willing to try with Vogel is kind of irrelevant since he wanted out. I'm not sure of the timeline there but I can see the FO trying to make it happen before he goes public to keep his value up. Granted his value wasn't much but that's another issue. I do agree about Camara's inclusion. That was unforgivable, IMO. He had a breakout summer league and ultimately if we didn't work with Portland then Dame doesn't end up in Milwaukee so we should have been the team squeezing extras out of it vs including them.
 
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