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I was going to do an in-depth article about him but decided against it because it wouldn't change anybody's mind. He's either liked or hated. Thought of as a choker or savior. So I'll dispense with the full statistical analysis and won't deal with his numbers or anything to do with his performances.

Instead, I'll cover some of the peripherals many of you don't know about.

Charlie Weis is brutal on his quarterbacks, something he learned on Parcells' staff with the Giants. He was Parcell's offensive coordinator with the Jets when Parcells turned that team around and Weis immediately demanded more of his QBs than any other player.

In New England, Tom Brady often made comments on how demanding and insensitive Weis was.

At Notre Dame, the play book under Weis is over 700 plays. The QB is expected to know them all, including the audibles, check-offs and line calls, and is expected to use them properly every time. Quinn had complete freedom to audible on virtually every play, including overriding the center's line calls, which he often did. Even in the pros, my guess is only Peyton Manning is given that much responsibility. Tom Brady had it too, under Weis, but now I'm not sure.

Weis rips his QBs on the sideline immediately for every missed check-off, screwed up audible and mis-read coverage. You've got to have a thick skin as a college kid to thrive under that kind of coaching.

Weis has 4 minute hurry-up packages and 2 minute hurry-ups and the team practices those every practice. Quinn had to make all the play calls in those situations, manage the clock, substitutions and time outs. No excuses and no screw-ups allowed. In those situations in real games, Quinn was superb. His clock and game management are superior. Even Weis begrudgingly admitted that.

Brady Quinn is a perfectionist, workaholic and workout warrior. He can diagram and explain every play, every player's responsibility on every play, and the weakness the play is designed to take of, in both Weis' system and the partially installed West Coast system he ran for two years under Tyrone Willingham.

Quinn often would come to the sideline and suggest changes in game plan to Weis. Weis rarely ever agreed but at least Quinn had the guts and confidence to state his case.

Quinn graduated with a double major in 3 1/2 years while being a 4 year starter.

Brady Quinn is also a weight room and video studying fanatic. He is absolutely anal in his pursuit of football success. According to Weis, Quinn can make every throw and his biggest improvement has been in the short "touch" passes. Early in his career he threw the dump-offs too hard.

Weis says Quinn will be a top three NFL QB within three years. Take that for for whatever you think it's worth.

Will Brady Quinn be a good NFL QB? Who knows? He reminds me of Peyton Manning in college in many ways. He's had tough losses against very good teams and performed poorly early in some of those. The knock, like Peyton at Tennessee, is he can't win the big one. Quinn also sometimes throws a wobble ball.

Unlike Manning, he's taken a beating in his four years, and was sacked 31 times this last year alone. Yet, he's still good at side stepping rushers and buying time to throw. He won't outrun anybody but he also protects the ball very well, rarely fumbling despite all the hits and throws very few interceptions.

How good is he really? His 4 year w/l record is 5-7, 6-6, 9-3 and 10-3. How many Notre Dame players can you think of, counting this next draft, have even made an NFL roster in the last 4 years, especially on offense?

You decide. If I was Al Davis, I'd draft Brady Quinn #1 overall and never look back. But I'm biased.
 

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I dont know about a top 3 guy --

but I see Quinn as being very similiar to Leinart--

an NFL ready QB whose stock has been nit-picked to death over the last four months or so

and yet another QB that the Lions apparently are going to pass on
 

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I was going to do an in-depth article about him but decided against it because it wouldn't change anybody's mind. He's either liked or hated. Thought of as a choker or savior. So I'll dispense with the full statistical analysis and won't deal with his numbers or anything to do with his performances.

Instead, I'll cover some of the peripherals many of you don't know about.

Charlie Weis is brutal on his quarterbacks, something he learned on Parcells' staff with the Giants. He was Parcell's offensive coordinator with the Jets when Parcells turned that team around and Weis immediately demanded more of his QBs than any other player.

In New England, Tom Brady often made comments on how demanding and insensitive Weis was.

At Notre Dame, the play book under Weis is over 700 plays. The QB is expected to know them all, including the audibles, check-offs and line calls, and is expected to use them properly every time. Quinn had complete freedom to audible on virtually every play, including overriding the center's line calls, which he often did. Even in the pros, my guess is only Peyton Manning is given that much responsibility. Tom Brady had it too, under Weis, but now I'm not sure.

Weis rips his QBs on the sideline immediately for every missed check-off, screwed up audible and mis-read coverage. You've got to have a thick skin as a college kid to thrive under that kind of coaching.

Weis has 4 minute hurry-up packages and 2 minute hurry-ups and the team practices those every practice. Quinn had to make all the play calls in those situations, manage the clock, substitutions and time outs. No excuses and no screw-ups allowed. In those situations in real games, Quinn was superb. His clock and game management are superior. Even Weis begrudgingly admitted that.

Brady Quinn is a perfectionist, workaholic and workout warrior. He can diagram and explain every play, every player's responsibility on every play, and the weakness the play is designed to take of, in both Weis' system and the partially installed West Coast system he ran for two years under Tyrone Willingham.

Quinn often would come to the sideline and suggest changes in game plan to Weis. Weis rarely ever agreed but at least Quinn had the guts and confidence to state his case.

Quinn graduated with a double major in 3 1/2 years while being a 4 year starter.

Brady Quinn is also a weight room and video studying fanatic. He is absolutely anal in his pursuit of football success. According to Weis, Quinn can make every throw and his biggest improvement has been in the short "touch" passes. Early in his career he threw the dump-offs too hard.

Weis says Quinn will be a top three NFL QB within three years. Take that for for whatever you think it's worth.

Will Brady Quinn be a good NFL QB? Who knows? He reminds me of Peyton Manning in college in many ways. He's had tough losses against very good teams and performed poorly early in some of those. The knock, like Peyton at Tennessee, is he can't win the big one. Quinn also sometimes throws a wobble ball.

Unlike Manning, he's taken a beating in his four years, and was sacked 31 times this last year alone. Yet, he's still good at side stepping rushers and buying time to throw. He won't outrun anybody but he also protects the ball very well, rarely fumbling despite all the hits and throws very few interceptions.

How good is he really? His 4 year w/l record is 5-7, 6-6, 9-3 and 10-3. How many Notre Dame players can you think of, counting this next draft, have even made an NFL roster in the last 4 years, especially on offense?

You decide. If I was Al Davis, I'd draft Brady Quinn #1 overall and never look back. But I'm biased.

Great write up; managing the game properly in my book is more important than physical gifts alone. I'd take a Brady, Manning over a Vick any day of the week.
 

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He was on Chris Myers show this weekend on FSN. pretty impressive and blatantly lobbying to be the first pick. Talked about Randy Moss and Jerry Porter and the opportunity to put up big numbers right away on a team with an awesome defense and talent on offense. Didn't seem to be shying away from it at all, or trying to persuade Oakland NOT to pick him.

Seems like a good kid, spoke well of Jamarcus Russell too.
 

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I like Quinn--I think he'll be a pretty good QB in the NFL for a long time. Maybe a probowl or two...but probably not a "perennial" pro bowler.

I think there's a lot to be said for a guy that will be steady for a long time--in fact, it's underrated, especially for a program like the raiders that desperately needs a rudder in the water...but I don't think it's what you look for in a #1 overall pick.

If I were in charge of the Raiders draft I'd take Johnson and try to get a first day pick for Moss.
 

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I dont know about a top 3 guy --

but I see Quinn as being very similiar to Leinart--

an NFL ready QB whose stock has been nit-picked to death over the last four months or so

and yet another QB that the Lions apparently are going to pass on

You may very well be right.
 

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I would rather take Brady Quinn Number #1 overall than that guy the 9ers drafted #1. I don't even remember his name.
 
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aka "Mr Tiny Hands"

Alex Smith doesn't have small hands, in my opinion. Nothing about his play supports that. That's internet nonsense. It's the same kind of crap floating around about Reggie Wells and Joe Thomas having short arms. Internet fiction.
 

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He certainly seems like he is a tough smart kid and like one of the previous post said reminds me of Lienart being pro ready. This being said Russel will be hard to pass on with his arm strength. Similar to the Lienart, Young debate. Still have no idea how Lienart slipped to us.
 

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How good is he really? His 4 year w/l record is 5-7, 6-6, 9-3 and 10-3. How many Notre Dame players can you think of, counting this next draft, have even made an NFL roster in the last 4 years, especially on offense?

I can name a couple right off of the top of my head.

Julius Jones RB Cowboys
Jeff Samardzija would have easily been a 3rd round pick this year if he didnt choose Baseball.
 

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He certainly seems like he is a tough smart kid and like one of the previous post said reminds me of Lienart being pro ready. This being said Russel will be hard to pass on with his arm strength. Similar to the Lienart, Young debate. Still have no idea how Lienart slipped to us.
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Samardzija was being spoken of as a 1st rounder by Kiper.

I was being very generous. I don't think that he would be a WR in the NFL, but a TE. I also don't think that he would have been picked before Olson.
 

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Alex Smith doesn't have small hands, in my opinion. Nothing about his play supports that. That's internet nonsense. It's the same kind of crap floating around about Reggie Wells and Joe Thomas having short arms. Internet fiction.

I think Alex Smith showed a lot last season. His progression from rookie to sophomore was very impressive.
 

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I was being very generous. I don't think that he would be a WR in the NFL, but a TE. I also don't think that he would have been picked before Olson.

Well, I'm sorry, but Kiper said he would have been a 1st round WR if he chose football. I don't know how good of a pro he would have been, or if he would have fallen in all the pre-draft workouts and so forth, but that's where he was considered when he turned to baseball.
 

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Well, I'm sorry, but Kiper said he would have been a 1st round WR if he chose football. I don't know how good of a pro he would have been, or if he would have fallen in all the pre-draft workouts and so forth, but that's where he was considered when he turned to baseball.

Hope for his sake he doesn't end up like Prior. What a sad story that is. But if he is a successful pitcher he will make more money than most football players can ever dream of. And what's nice about baseball contracts is they are guaranteed.
 

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Pro Football Weekly says: " We are going on record very confidently and stating Brady Quinn will be a much better pro than Jamarcus Russell"
 

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Well, I'm sorry, but Kiper said he would have been a 1st round WR if he chose football. I don't know how good of a pro he would have been, or if he would have fallen in all the pre-draft workouts and so forth, but that's where he was considered when he turned to baseball.

Kiper has never been wrong right? I just don't think that he would have cracked the first round. Scouts seem enamored with 40 times and his time would have been in the 4.5's. I could easily see him as a 2nd round, and no later than 3rd round pick.

Players never go up and down in the months before the draft either, right?


Hope for his sake he doesn't end up like Prior. What a sad story that is. But if he is a successful pitcher he will make more money than most football players can ever dream of. And what's nice about baseball contracts is they are guaranteed.

I agree. Baseball was the right choice for him, considering the contract he already signed.
 

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How good is he really? His 4 year w/l record is 5-7, 6-6, 9-3 and 10-3. How many Notre Dame players can you think of, counting this next draft, have even made an NFL roster in the last 4 years, especially on offense?

There was a uy interviewed one day on the radio and he was discussing QBs taken recently and how Quinn and Russell fit into this kind of model he was running by the interviewers and basically his premise was, most of the QBs who have done well in the NFl amassed a large number of college starts while the QBs that played below expectations normally had a much smaller number of starts on their college resumes.

This guy being interviewed, who is with the NFL Network, suggested he felt like Quinn was a much better choice than Russell for that reason.

It was an interesting interview.

I think Russell is a disaster waiting to happen who has found himself in the position of making millions based mostly on one game IMO. Beware the players moving fast up the boards and players who get the love for one great game.
 

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There was a uy interviewed one day on the radio and he was discussing QBs taken recently and how Quinn and Russell fit into this kind of model he was running by the interviewers and basically his premise was, most of the QBs who have done well in the NFl amassed a large number of college starts while the QBs that played below expectations normally had a much smaller number of starts on their college resumes.

This guy being interviewed, who is with the NFL Network, suggested he felt like Quinn was a much better choice than Russell for that reason.

It was an interesting interview.

I think Russell is a disaster waiting to happen who has found himself in the position of making millions based mostly on one game IMO. Beware the players moving fast up the boards and players who get the love for one great game.


The one game that he played great in, is against Brady Quinn. That definitely factors into the decision.
 

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