Brett Hundley: Playing for Cardinals would be dream come true

[Russ Smith]

Mitch, I have been intrigued with Hundley as well. He does possess all the tools. Has good footwork and is accurate and strong enough to make ALL the throws (with touch). Has shown that he can step up into the pocket while keeping his eyes down field, and is an adept runner once forced out of the pocket. He has good size, speed, and strength. The only hold-back is that he almost always played in the gun, therefore he has not been able to show if he can actually read defenses on his own.

I believe this staff could coach him up and I would like to see him compete with LT for the QBOF, ESPECIALLY since he wants to be a Cardinal so badly. Just a thought.

Wow it's like you're watching an entirely different player.

UCLA completely changed their playbook this year because Hundley was getting sacked so much in the base offense because he held the ball too long. He's not particularly accurate, it's something Mazzone talked about regularly, they needed better accuracy. He doesn't keep his eyes downfield he regularly drops his head. And he doesn't know when to run, often there's a lane and he hesitates.

He had an NFL coach at UCLA and they spent much of the time trying to get him to see the rush, and run when nothing was there. Very good college player, but I don't see him having the pocket presence to excel in the nFL.

 

[Buckybird]

I don't really care for him. I think he's a more athletic slightly better accurate Thomas. I'm passing on him & I think the Cards aren't considering him.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Dream come true...........

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[dreamcastrocks]

Lindley is better than Logan. Why else did they bring him back and start over Logan??

Do you not remember his last playoff game? The worst offensive performance in history? It literally doesn't get any worse than Lindley.

 

[Stout]

Do you not remember his last playoff game? The worst offensive performance in history? It literally doesn't get any worse than Lindley.

+1

 

[ARZCardinals]

We got Lindley and Thomas - the next Peyton Manning(s)

 

[cardsfanmd]

Shouldn't you be making out with Levar Arrington or something?

Oh no...wait...that's your other ASFN account...I'm confused.

Shouldn't you be busy making assinine comments or trolling? Oh, wait....

 

[cardsfanmd]

Do you not remember his last playoff game? The worst offensive performance in history? It literally doesn't get any worse than Lindley.

+1

+2

 

[ajcardfan]

Do you not remember his last playoff game? The worst offensive performance in history? It literally doesn't get any worse than Lindley.

yet, when Arians gave Thomas a chance to start the SF game, he was so miserable in practice that he had to give the start back to Lindley. So, apparently it does get worse than Lindley in Arians' mind.

 

[SeattleCard]

yet, when Arians gave Thomas a chance to start the SF game, he was so miserable in practice that he had to give the start back to Lindley. So, apparently it does get worse than Lindley in Arians' mind.

Totally agree. Thomas should be able to beat out Lindley at any professional age - rookie or else - if he is supposed to be the future answer. The fact that Thomas wasn't even ready in practice after a near full season speaks volumes.

 

[splitsecond]

I don't know how anyone can sit here and say Hundley isn't worth drafting if he falls to the right pick. That COULD be second round depending what we do in free agency.

There are few things more irritating to me than the fact that Hundley was basically shooed away from UA by Mike Stoops. Hundley with RichRod and Kadeem Carey would have been the most prolific offense in the country.

That being said, Hundley is basically Kaepernick, except not a moron and much better as a pocket passer. His biggest flaw has been holding onto the ball and taking sacks behind a terrible offensive line.

He is a gamer, and if we can get him at the right cost we'd be foolish not to. Plus he is an ARIZONA kid through and through. Could be an icon in this town.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't know how anyone can sit here and say Hundley isn't worth drafting if he falls to the right pick. That COULD be second round depending what we do in free agency.

There are few things more irritating to me than the fact that Hundley was basically shooed away from UA by Mike Stoops. Hundley with RichRod and Kadeem Carey would have been the most prolific offense in the country.

That being said, Hundley is basically Kaepernick, except not a moron and much better as a pocket passer. His biggest flaw has been holding onto the ball and taking sacks behind a terrible offensive line.

He is a gamer, and if we can get him at the right cost we'd be foolish not to. Plus he is an ARIZONA kid through and through. Could be an icon in this town.

I wouldn't waste a pick on Hundley unless I was going to trade Drew Stanton, and make Logan Thomas the backup QB. Otherwise, he is a QB who has the same issues as Logan Thomas without the benefit of having one year of experience in the Cardinals system. You aren't going to carry 4 QBs and he won't make it to the practice squad. A wasted pick.

 

[Catfish]

Wow it's like you're watching an entirely different player.

UCLA completely changed their playbook this year because Hundley was getting sacked so much in the base offense because he held the ball too long. He's not particularly accurate, it's something Mazzone talked about regularly, they needed better accuracy. He doesn't keep his eyes downfield he regularly drops his head. And he doesn't know when to run, often there's a lane and he hesitates.

He had an NFL coach at UCLA and they spent much of the time trying to get him to see the rush, and run when nothing was there. Very good college player, but I don't see him having the pocket presence to excel in the nFL.

Thanks for the head's up. I had read that UCLA played him in the gun because he was poor at reading defenses and that they would simply flash a card so that he would know how to run the play.

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't like Hundley as a prospect at all. Russ nails it. I think he has more talent than Thomas, but that is the extent of my praise for him. A first or second round pick on this kid would be completely asinine. IMHO.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don't like Hundley as a prospect at all. Russ nails it. I think he has more talent than Thomas, but that is the extent of my praise for him. A first or second round pick on this kid would be completely asinine. IMHO.

But what if he was available in round 4? Guys like Hundley fall all of the time. He has some elite traits, but also some very poor traits.

Not to compare the two at all, but if anyone remembers Brady wasn't even a consistent starter at Michigan.

What scares me about Hundley is that when I've seen him play I've never thought he looked like a legitimate NFL QB despite his decent arm, size, and athletic ability. I think his numbers are more of a function of Mazzone's system than an indicator of his talent.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't like Hundley as a prospect at all. Russ nails it. I think he has more talent than Thomas, but that is the extent of my praise for him. A first or second round pick on this kid would be completely asinine. IMHO.

I don't know why people keep saying this. What is he more talented at? Thomas has a stronger arm. Hundley has had better coaching in college. Both are inaccurate, and have some pocket awareness issues.

I would love for someone to explain what areas that Logan Thomas struggles with that Hundley does not. Why draft another QB with the same issues?

 

[Chopper0080]

But what if he was available in round 4? Guys like Hundley fall all of the time. He has some elite traits, but also some very poor traits.

Not to compare the two at all, but if anyone remembers Brady wasn't even a consistent starter at Michigan.

What scares me about Hundley is that when I've seen him play I've never thought he looked like a legitimate NFL QB despite his decent arm, size, and athletic ability. I think his numbers are more of a function of Mazzone's system than an indicator of his talent.

Again, same issues as Logan Thomas but without a college system to be successful in.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Again, same issues as Logan Thomas but without a college system to be successful in.

No doubt. I remember comparing him to Taylor Kelly in a thread over on ASU's forum, and I said I'd rather have Kelly.

I was blasted for it, but if you watched them side-by-side, I think Kelly was a more impressive player. Hundley just didn't look impressive.

As much doubt as I have of Thomas ever becoming a good player, I don't think it's unreasonable to give him some slack for the college system he played in. VA Tech's offense was piss poor not just from an execution perspective, but also from a scheme perspective.

Mazzone is a wizard, so Hundley has had the benefit of running an extremely QB friendly system. Brock Osweiler looked pretty good in that system, and I doubt anyone realistically thinks Denver picking him in round 2 was a good idea.

 

[Buckybird]

I don't know why people keep saying this. What is he more talented at? Thomas has a stronger arm. Hundley has had better coaching in college. Both are inaccurate, and have some pocket awareness issues.

I would love for someone to explain what areas that Logan Thomas struggles with that Hundley does not. Why draft another QB with the same issues?

Again, same issues as Logan Thomas but without a college system to be successful in.

Ding ding ding!!! Imo teams relying on Thomas or Hundley becoming quality NFL starters clearly haven't watched them play enough.

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't know why people keep saying this. What is he more talented at? Thomas has a stronger arm. Hundley has had better coaching in college. Both are inaccurate, and have some pocket awareness issues.

I would love for someone to explain what areas that Logan Thomas struggles with that Hundley does not. Why draft another QB with the same issues?

Hundley is more accurate than Thomas and is more elusive as a runner. Thomas had games where he threw more wildly off target passes than Hundley would have in about 6 games. IMO. And, yes, Hundley is not going to be a dart champion.

 

[Bert]

One thing I have learned when watching tape on QB's is to not watch the play, who cares if they threw a 60yd TD, it's college. You have to watch their head, and their feet.

I watched some tape on Youtube on this guy and I dont see this kid looking off recievers and going through a progression. Also, his footwork in the pocket is questionable at best. He stepped up into throws nicely, but he is either glued in the pocket or he's scrambling.

He might be good, but no way I would use a 1st round pick on him. Noooo thank you.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

One thing I have learned when watching tape on QB's is to not watch the play, who cares if they threw a 60yd TD, it's college. You have to watch their head, and their feet.

I watched some tape on Youtube on this guy and I dont see this kid looking off recievers and going through a progression. Also, his footwork in the pocket is questionable at best. He stepped up into throws nicely, but he is either glued in the pocket or he's scrambling.

He might be good, but no way I would use a 1st round pick on him. Noooo thank you.

I wouldn't use a 3rd-5th round pick on him either. He is prospect and we already have one of those in Thomas.

 

[Chopper0080]

Ding ding ding!!! Imo teams relying on Thomas or Hundley becoming quality NFL starters clearly haven't watched them play enough.

I disagree, but you do reinforce the point. If you want to add a QB, don't add one who is almost identical to the guy you already have. Get someone different who doesn't have pocket awareness issues and accuracy issues.

 

[New Username]

sure

hundley has best winning record for any qbs in UCLA history

Not the best winning record. He was the first QB to win at least 9 games 3 years in a row. Thats because Aikman only played 2.

Besides, being the best winner in ucla history isn't saying much. University of mediocrity in football. They are a basketball school.

 

[GatorAZ]

I wouldn't use a 3rd-5th round pick on him either. He is prospect and we already have one of those in Thomas.

Logan Thomas is not a reason not to draft Brett Hundley.