Brisbane Bullets @Suns (preseason) 10-13-17

[Mainstreet]

I will be interested to see how Len plays against Nurkic on opening night. That will be a true test for him.

 

[Mainstreet]

For anyone keeping score, the Suns lead 71-45 at halftime.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns are playing uninspired in the 2nd half. Only a 20 point Suns lead.

I'm ready for the bench players.

 

[Mainstreet]

Len, Bender, Bledsoe, Ulis and Booker playing significant minutes together.

 

[Mainstreet]

James replaces Bledsoe in the lineup.

 

[Mainstreet]

Len has 20 points, 7 blocks and 4 rebounds thus far. When the light come on for Len, he can be dominant.

 

[Chaplin]

Len has 20 points, 7 blocks and 4 rebounds thus far. When the light come on for Len, he can be dominant.

Chandler has 9 rebounds in less than half the time Len has been on the floor. If Len wants to have a future here, he has to improve that.

And starting him won't make a bit of difference in that respect.

 

[Mainstreet]

Chandler has 9 rebounds in less than half the time Len has been on the floor. If Len wants to have a future here, he has to improve that.

And starting him won't make a bit of difference in that respect.

What I like about Len tonight is he has protected the rim. No doubt he can improve his rebounding. The Suns should have simplified the game for him years ago.

 

[Mainstreet]

Final:

Phoenix 114 Brisbane 93

 

[Mainstreet]

My favorite stat for tonight, Bender had 16 points and 9 rebounds.

Devin Booker had 31 points and 6 assists.

 

[devilalum]

Sloppy game, inferior opponent. Not much too take from this one.

 

[pokerface]

Sloppy game, inferior opponent. Not much too take from this one.

 

[Bada0Bing]

I thought Bender looked really smooth on both ends.

 

[BC867]

Len has 20 points, 7 blocks and 4 rebounds thus far. When the light come on for Len, he can be dominant.

In the Australian league, perhaps. A non-NBA exhibition game is not the the time to make any generalizations about Len. Or when he has one decent game, then stinks it up for three. Over and over.

At this stage of his career, Alex Len should have developed some sort of consistency.

 

[JCSunsfan]

In the Australian league, perhaps. A non-NBA exhibition game is not the the time to make any generalizations about Len. Or when he has one decent game, then stinks it up for three. Over and over.

At this stage of his career, Alex Len should have developed some sort of consistency.

He has had a remarkably consistent preseason. He is only 24. He lost a lot of time in his first two years to injury. Coaching had him playing away from the basket which is silly. I am not sure how much of Len's past inconsistency is actually Len's fault.

It's just the Suns luck that they get a young big who is starting to play well just after they declined to lock him up long term.

 

[pokerface]

He has had a remarkably consistent preseason. He is only 24. He lost a lot of time in his first two years to injury. Coaching had him playing away from the basket which is silly. I am not sure how much of Len's past inconsistency is actually Len's fault.

It's just the Suns luck that they get a young big who is starting to play well just after they declined to lock him up long term.

I don't know what to make of any of this. Len supposedly talked to teams around the league this summer and they said what they wanted to see out of him. Now a light goes off in his head and he now "gets it". So now he's going to tear up the league..sink our draft...and then bail.


WHY DID THE SUNS RE-SIGN LEN?

 

[3rdside]

He has had a remarkably consistent preseason. He is only 24. He lost a lot of time in his first two years to injury. Coaching had him playing away from the basket which is silly. I am not sure how much of Len's past inconsistency is actually Len's fault.

It's just the Suns luck that they get a young big who is starting to play well just after they declined to lock him up long term.

Luck?

When you off load Thomas for peanuts and give up a lottery pick for Brandon Knight, you'd be forgiven for thinking it's more likely management has a talent identification deficit disorder.




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[leclerc]

Given age, consistency/lack of experience/confidence, it's a good thing that Bender and Len produces regardless of the competition. They need positive experiences to keep building on.

 

[Mainstreet]

In the Australian league, perhaps. A non-NBA exhibition game is not the the time to make any generalizations about Len. Or when he has one decent game, then stinks it up for three. Over and over.

At this stage of his career, Alex Len should have developed some sort of consistency.

This was an in-game comment about Len who who perplexes during his four seasons with the Suns. It is not based on just one game. Many times the light has flickered on for Len only to see him regress. Len needs to develop a consistent game, something he may or may never develop. This is likely the reason the Suns did not offer him a new contract or at least for the amount of money he wanted.

 

[JS22]

I don't know what to make of any of this. Len supposedly talked to teams around the league this summer and they said what they wanted to see out of him. Now a light goes off in his head and he now "gets it". So now he's going to tear up the league..sink our draft...and then bail.


WHY DID THE SUNS RE-SIGN LEN?

Already worried about the tank, huh?

 

[leclerc]

Question is if he plays out of his mind in the contract year, how much will he let down when he's got the contract signed? This is not an exact science unfortunately. Hope it turns out well for us. Take us to the promised land, Alex!

 

[Hoop Head]

Read somewhere that Len practiced in Maryland with his former college coaches during the offseason. Getting back to basics helped him, he tried simplifying things and it looks like he has, the Suns seem to be expecting less of him also, not trying to run the offense through him or trying to get him to hit 18 footers.

The Suns desperately need a big man coach on the staff though, it might be too late for Len, but we still have Bender and Chriss here for the next 3-4 years, at least. Chandler doesn't seem to be cutting it, it doesn't seem he's helped Len at all since he's been here. He's not the sort of guy who can teach offense either because he was never really an offensive threat. There wasn't a big man on Watson's staff last year either but there should be. I believe Mark West is still in the front office and he works with some of our bigs but he was really only good for 6 smart fouls when he played, with maybe 1/4 of the offense Chandler has. I'm not sure who is available out there, as far as full time developmental coaches but the Suns should have looked to send Len to work with someone like Hakeem at least once over the last few summers, who holds camps for players every summer that a lot of NBA players attend, not just Centers. The list of players who have worked with him is pretty impressive. Maybe it wouldn't help Len but it couldn't have hurt.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Read somewhere that Len practiced in Maryland with his former college coaches during the offseason. Getting back to basics helped him, he tried simplifying things and it looks like he has, the Suns seem to be expecting less of him also, not trying to run the offense through him or trying to get him to hit 18 footers.

The Suns desperately need a big man coach on the staff though, it might be too late for Len, but we still have Bender and Chriss here for the next 3-4 years, at least. Chandler doesn't seem to be cutting it, it doesn't seem he's helped Len at all since he's been here. He's not the sort of guy who can teach offense either because he was never really an offensive threat. There wasn't a big man on Watson's staff last year either but there should be. I believe Mark West is still in the front office and he works with some of our bigs but he was really only good for 6 smart fouls when he played, with maybe 1/4 of the offense Chandler has. I'm not sure who is available out there, as far as full time developmental coaches but the Suns should have looked to send Len to work with someone like Hakeem at least once over the last few summers, who holds camps for players every summer that a lot of NBA players attend, not just Centers. The list of players who have worked with him is pretty impressive. Maybe it wouldn't help Len but it couldn't have hurt.

I want to reply. I want to talk about this. But I just, well... that avatar.

 

[pokerface]

Read somewhere that Len practiced in Maryland with his former college coaches during the offseason. Getting back to basics helped him, he tried simplifying things and it looks like he has, the Suns seem to be expecting less of him also, not trying to run the offense through him or trying to get him to hit 18 footers.

The Suns desperately need a big man coach on the staff though, it might be too late for Len, but we still have Bender and Chriss here for the next 3-4 years, at least. Chandler doesn't seem to be cutting it, it doesn't seem he's helped Len at all since he's been here. He's not the sort of guy who can teach offense either because he was never really an offensive threat. There wasn't a big man on Watson's staff last year either but there should be. I believe Mark West is still in the front office and he works with some of our bigs but he was really only good for 6 smart fouls when he played, with maybe 1/4 of the offense Chandler has. I'm not sure who is available out there, as far as full time developmental coaches but the Suns should have looked to send Len to work with someone like Hakeem at least once over the last few summers, who holds camps for players every summer that a lot of NBA players attend, not just Centers. The list of players who have worked with him is pretty impressive. Maybe it wouldn't help Len but it couldn't have hurt.

Yeah a big man coach couldn't hurt.

 

[Chaplin]

Watson has been praising Mehmet Okur--not sure I'd consider him a big man coach, but he's the closest we've got.